Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[A tree]

(Once again prefacing with my disclaimer: if any med kiwis point out that I’m wrong about her cancer faking, lmk and I’ll stfu)
Today, our friend Victoria-who claims the munchie combo platter plus hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia, supranumary kidney, former conjoined twin, and two sets of mitochondrial DNA- is so so sick with metastatic cancer she got from a botched surgery to remove a non cancerous pheochromocytoma but no meanie doctor will really believe her or treat her. So weird because I’ve never ever heard about anyone with stage 3 or 4 cancer having difficulty with doctors believing there’s something wrong.
Also worth mentioning- she said in the comment section of one of her previous posts that she and her doctors have no idea how hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia affects her; that’s a super weird claim because a cursory google search shows that, uh, bleeding from the nose and digestive tract and cerebral hemorrhage are pretty clear first signs. I love it when munchies claim an illness without even researching it first

I'm only a semi medkiwi but how does cancer metastasize from a non cancerous tumour?
In terms of the stages of cancer they are about how it's spread. So I suppose technically if she has these slow growing micro tumours that are a matter of watchful waiting and they've gone from the original tissue to a lymph node then *technically* that's stage 3. But this sounds like the kind of cancer you live with not die of. If it's not completely fabricated.

Some info about microtumours

Micrometastases in Lymph Nodes and Finding the Right Treatment

Micrometastases are formed by cells that break off from the main tumor. They're too small to be seen by scans and are the reason for adjuvant therapy.

www.verywellhealth.com

Sounds like if they really are there and really are cancerous a quick round of adjuvant chemo should do the trick.

 

[obsdj]

Some V invested Redditer claims they went to city hall(s) and none of them have a death certificate for little old TessieSnaggleTooth.

What are those downvoted-below-the-threshold people saying? More "How dare you cast aspersions on this poor soul" idiocy?

 

[Outwith Quiddany]

metastatic cancer she got from a botched surgery to remove a non cancerous pheochromocytoma but no meanie doctor will really believe her or treat her. So weird because I’ve never ever heard about anyone with stage 3 or 4 cancer having difficulty with doctors believing there’s something wrong.

I'm only a semi medkiwi but how does cancer metastasize from a non cancerous tumour?
In terms of the stages of cancer they are about how it's spread. So I suppose technically if she has these slow growing micro tumours that are a matter of watchful waiting and they've gone from the original tissue to a lymph node then *technically* that's stage 3. But this sounds like the kind of cancer you live with not die of. If it's not completely fabricated.

I think what Victoria's aiming for is something like a multiple endocrine neoplasia where some gene is just fucked and you get a bunch of independent endocrine-related tumors. It's usually just a plain autosomal dominant thing, so you'd need an affected parent. No clue if she has that, but it seems to fit the story she's telling better than an actual malignant, metastatic tumor the doctor's blowing off.

 

[Purple Bra]

Chelsea news: The hysterectomy is done and according to Chelsea and her sister, she's in the ICU due to her pain. Uh, okay?

More specifically though, the nerve block supposedly failed and so Chelsea was in horrible pain and started having stiff attacks and couldn't breathe and the nurses and anesthesiologist had never seen anything like it. Actually, I'll believe that last part. I'll bet none of them have ever seen a "stiff attack" like Chelsea's.

 

[Bakred Lemon]

More specifically though, the nerve block supposedly failed and so Chelsea was in horrible pain and started having stiff attacks

For as many “stiff attacks” as she claims, she has never seen one of the actual stiff person syndrome specialists in the country. You’d think she would, as they would be as interested in seeing her as she would them due to the unique and rare nature of the disorder.

Isn’t an ovary/cervix-sparing hysterectomy a laparoscopic procedure involving three small incisions and during COVID times patients are released same-day or 24 hours later?

At home, she is on so many benzos and narcotics I would not be surprised if she did have a seizure or intense muscle spasms after 10 hours without her pills. I didn’t think she’d go through with the procedure after putting it off so many times. She knows all the tricks in the book to prolong her hospital stay. She turned an iron transfusion into a 3 day stay. I fully anticipate her being hospitalized for 6-8 days for this.

 

[ConSluttant]

Victoria Guyadeen updates: the plot thickens with the conjoined twin claim. What-and I cannot stress this enough-the fuck

She is essentially claiming she is a chimera.

 

[LahLahBlackSheep]

Isn’t an ovary/cervix-sparing hysterectomy a laparoscopic procedure involving three small incisions and during COVID times patients are released same-day or 24 hours later?

There's a few ways to do it.

Spoiler: Med Sperg Below

Laparoscopically Assisted Vaginal Hysterectomy (LAVH)is where they laparoscopically guide and remove everything through the vagina (birth canal)

Sometimes instead they'll remove stuff through a larger abdominal incision or break things up and then remove it through the tiny incisions.

But there's also a total vaginal hysterectomy. Which is where they go in through the vagina and remove everything that way. Vaginal hysterectomy tend to have the least amount of complications from what I understand.

But in all these procedures it's generally a 24 hour monitor and then they release you home without issue as long as there's no perforations or excessive bleeding.

With how hard it is for people to get into the ICU right now during emergencies I have a hard time believing she's in the ICU

 

[Alamo basement dweller]

Chelsea news: The hysterectomy is done and according to Chelsea and her sister, she's in the ICU due to her pain. Uh, okay?

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More specifically though, the nerve block supposedly failed and so Chelsea was in horrible pain and started having stiff attacks and couldn't breathe and the nurses and anesthesiologist had never seen anything like it. Actually, I'll believe that last part. I'll bet none of them have ever seen a "stiff attack" like Chelsea's.

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She’s got wonderful range of motion in her neck for someone so unstable she needs that crazy-ass brace. Also, why do so many munchie insist on making themselves as ugly as fucking possible? I’m offended by Chelsea’s haircut.

 

[fuckinsprinklecookies]

So far this doesn’t seem to be true unless I’m missing something. I’ve read all of the comments on her Patreon (I hate myself). Unless TessieSnaggleTooth realized her mom called her out and promptly deleted it? This gets juicier by the day. I’m here for it.

 

[Turtlebrandt]

So something weird I just noticed.

on Tess’ Patreon, the person who was commenting about making final arrangements said she is Tess’ mom. Which is weird by the way she was talking. She also provided her phone number asking someone to call her.

the number she gave, when googled, comes back as a Substance Abuse Counselor in Durham, NH, who doesn’t pass as someone old enough to be Tess’ mom.
This person also claims to be cleaning out Tess’s apartment and asked if anyone wants anything from it. So weird.

 

[Smellee Cat]

Regarding Tess

From a comment by an “Alicia Hartman” (who seems, from her fb profile, to be a real person):

“Marsha Elmore Allen what is wrong with you ! I was at her side when she had no one ! As her other 2 dear friends were ! How dare you say something like that ! Where were you when she was alive and needed someone to help ? But now you shame yourself by saying such a thing ! She is now at peace and it doesn’t matter if there is an obituary or not ! Why so you can read all about it ! All people need to know is that she is at peace and not suffering or in pain or being belittled or made fun of anymore . She was a very very intelligent young lady ! And loved by many that respected her for who and what she was . So for anyone looking for answers there they are . For those of you that loved her and lost touch with her know that she loved you all ! And will always be looking down over everyone . Her peace is upon us all . “

Also:

“ Just stop this !!!!!! Stop all of this !!!! I was there !! What is wrong with you all ! ”

Sorry for the faggy formatting. Mobile. Have screenshots but still unsure how to post or archive.

 

[Turtlebrandt]

Regarding Tess

From a comment by an “Alicia Hartman” (who seems, from her fb profile, to be a real person):

“Marsha Elmore Allen what is wrong with you ! I was at her side when she had no one ! As her other 2 dear friends were ! How dare you say something like that ! Where were you when she was alive and needed someone to help ? But now you shame yourself by saying such a thing ! She is now at peace and it doesn’t matter if there is an obituary or not ! Why so you can read all about it ! All people need to know is that she is at peace and not suffering or in pain or being belittled or made fun of anymore . She was a very very intelligent young lady ! And loved by many that respected her for who and what she was . So for anyone looking for answers there they are . For those of you that loved her and lost touch with her know that she loved you all ! And will always be looking down over everyone . Her peace is upon us all . “

Also:

“ Just stop this !!!!!! Stop all of this !!!! I was there !! What is wrong with you all ! ”

Sorry for the faggy formatting. Mobile. Have screenshots but still unsure how to post or archive.

According to past comments, Alicia and Tess only came to know each other in the last 2 weeks or so. And I’m not sure if that means they even met in person or not.

 

[Smellee Cat]

According to past comments, Alicia and Tess only came to know each other in the last 2 weeks or so. And I’m not sure if that means they even met in person or not.

I wish I knew how to,do anything other than post text.. if anyone feels like inboxing me posting for dummies.. anyway..

Some where on the Alicia Hartman page she says she worked with Tess when Tess was a nurse.

 

[Bakred Lemon]

Some where on the Alicia Hartman page she says she worked with Tess when Tess was a nurse.

I’ll do it. It appears that Alicia Hartman is a real person with an extensive friends/family list with people who vouch for and interact with her IRL, including former physicians, so she is not Tess or a fake account. She mentions that she was “with” Tess presumably when she passed but doesn’t elaborate. She later also says that her body was taken to a morgue/funeral home by her (Alicia’s) husband.

Spoiler

Alicia claims that her husband picked up Tess’s body and took her to the funeral home where he worked, and that no family was in contact with them to make funeral plans or claim the body. Sad if true for someone who claimed to know she was terminal for so long. Either Alicia was significantly manipulated by more than just Tess, or Tess is actually dead and Alicia claimed her body as a kindness because Tess was totally alone.

 

[Smellee Cat]

I’ll do it. It appears that Alicia Hartman is a real person with an extensive friends/family list with people who vouch for and interact with her IRL, including former physicians, so she is not Tess or a fake account. She mentions that she was “with” Tess presumably when she passed but doesn’t elaborate. She later also says that her body was taken to a morgue/funeral home by her (Alicia’s) husband.

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Alicia claims that her husband picked up Tess’s body and took her to the funeral home where he worked, and that no family was in contact with them to make funeral plans or claim the body. Sad if true for someone who claimed to know she was terminal for so long. Either Alicia was significantly manipulated by more than just Tess, or Tess is actually dead and Alicia claimed her body as a kindness because Tess was totally alone.

Thank you, you’re a fucking star. This is pretty much exactly how I interpreted the Alicia profile. Odd that her husband would pick up the body, no?

The comment about working with Tess is buried somewhere in comments on one of alicias posts about Tess’ death.

 

[Purple Bra]

Speaking of ugly munchies, Bethany supposedly got herself some sort of aide this week and also wore a hideous nightgown (or shirt? idk) thing.

Spoiler: Bethany @rebellious_story

And, of course, she has to teach her aide how to do everything because obviously the poor thing won't know what to do with someone like Bethany.

Ashley Smith, the marijuana fueled pansexual unicorn, changed her TikTok name to thezebraunicorn and got into a slap fight with another TTer over food stamps, of all things. Ashley claims that she got a letter stating that her food stamps won't roll over anymore, but another TTer, we.recover.beez, doesn't believe her. From what I could tell from a brief glance at her social media, we.recover.beez / Recoverbeez / bakedbeezy is a recovering alcoholic who works at (or owns?) a bakery in Washington state. Anyway, beez tells her that she's lucky she's getting more than she needs, blahblah, and Ashley flips out over how "ableist" this is because Ashley claims she can't always go to the store. So, basically, Ashley is claiming that she can't go to the store often enough to spend the ~$200 she gets in food stamps during a month.

Spoiler: all the ableism and bullying

Original Food Stamp whining

First Response from Ashley: Ashley can't go to the grocery store and she actually needs MORE food stamps because she "can't eat normal people food" due to her GI issues. So she needs more food stamp money even though she's not spending the money she already has.

Second Response from Ashley: Apparently when you're the perpetual victim, anyone questioning anything about your story is "attacking" and "bullying"

DM conversation between Ashley and beez: Ashley basically just cries over the "bullying"

After that, Ashley's TT account got a posting ban so she hopped over to her backup to complain about the "bullying" because that's just what you do

Meanwhile, beez apparently got banned so hopped over to a whole new account where she posted this message about Ashley that she supposedly got from someone:

 

[large_farva]

So far this doesn’t seem to be true unless I’m missing something. I’ve read all of the comments on her Patreon (I hate myself). Unless TessieSnaggleTooth realized her mom called her out and promptly deleted it? This gets juicier by the day. I’m here for it.

IMO either Tess faked her death or killed herself. Suspicious she had time to properly delete her social media before death so no one would comment.

 

[ProblematicFatty]

Chelsea news: The hysterectomy is done and according to Chelsea and her sister, she's in the ICU due to her pain. Uh, okay?

If she had really munched her way into ICU, you can bet your ass that she'd be panning that camera around like mad to capture all the sooper-sick-person equipment that typically hangs around every bedside in an ICU; regardless of whether it's hooked up to a patient or not. Just a shot of the pillows and a selection of medical accoutrements purchasable on eBay? Not convincing.

 

[Mary Tyler Meltdown]

IMO either Tess faked her death or killed herself. Suspicious she had time to properly delete her social media before death so no one would comment.

The post on the brother's IG (which is the only thing that makes her death plausible right now unless she's lying to him too) he said he hoped she felt "lighter" which is a common phrase people say about those that kill themselves, so I think if she did die it was certainly suicide. This also makes the posts from her "friends" saying they were there until the end super weird.

The whole thing is just fucking weird. I usually think it's BS when people always assume someone is faking their death but there's just nothing about Tess's death that makes any sense, even considering her lack of blood relatives involved in her life.

 

[Bakred Lemon]

you can bet your ass that she'd be panning that camera around like mad to capture all the sooper-sick-person equipment

She filmed a multi-part TikTok video knowing that she would end up in some sort of dramatic aftercare, and did manage to edit, film and post the video.

Splerg:

Spoiler

You can’t qualify Chelsea’s true state of health by the medical care she acquires, because she is remarkably skilled at pressuring, manipulating and outright forcing through patient advocates whatever care she has in her mind to have. Every one of her hospitalizations is prolonged, and she plays tricks to force them to keep her for additional days. She knows that you can’t discharge a patient who can’t successfully complete a specific checklist of basic tasks I’m not going to discuss. And, she tends to have “issues” that develop as it gets close to discharge time — so 3-5PM the day after procedures, or in the late evening on a procedure that is outpatient (same day evening discharge). A video series she posted when she was on day 8 or so of a hospital stay and cried because she needed “nutrition” and the gastro refused TPN caused her a meltdown because she was prolonging her stay. Same, when she had an iron transfusion sometime over the summer. She manipulated herself into that entire situation.

All that to stay that I would not doubt one bit that she’s in the ICU. I hope that her entire care teams get together and force evaluation for stiff person syndrome considering it is her munchie specialty. She very well could have had legitimate seizures from benzo withdrawal after surgery when the hospital took over her medication schedule, as well as suffered symptoms of pain and or withdrawal from narcotics if they used a blocker instead. She’s on a significant amount of drugs.

IMO either Tess faked her death or killed herself.

The person who claims to have been there seems to have been caught off guard to have been a party to and witness to her death. I would guess medication-assisted suicide. It was “very peaceful,” which made me curious about assisted-suicide laws in her area. Here is what her friend/boss/Magpie babysitter said:

Spoiler

Magpie’s trainer and Tess’s former boss also believed her dead, but mentioned that they reconnected when Tess messaged her out of the blue to ask that she take Tess to a doctor’s appointment. They hadn’t spoken at all in many years. It is possible that Alicia, if she witnessed a death, experienced a similar situation. It seems regardless of her current status that she has been living without true friendships for many years now.

It doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility that she either completed suicide while she had guests, or suffered some sort of medical event.