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Never heard of her. Which means she'll win a Hugo soon, if she hasn't already. I assumed she wrote that series that Tumblr is all over right now, Murderbot? But nope, never heard of any of he books.
 
Never heard of her. Which means she'll win a Hugo soon, if she hasn't already. I assumed she wrote that series that Tumblr is all over right now, Murderbot? But nope, never heard of any of he books.
Murderbot sounds far too white knuckled of a title even for her

Edit: also i need to learn to write complete posts the first time around and stop abusing the edit feature
 
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The fuck is this shit?
 
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Her books sound frightfully dull like the ideals of wokeness made into a story, where theres no plot because it might send someone into a panic attack theres no conflict because someone might be offended just a nagging tension, thats what i imagine being woke is like.
I tried reading her first idiotic novel. It was one of the worst things I have ever had the misfortune to try. On page one, one of the main characters complains about how he will never ever get used to the sight of white people. The thing is retarded. Some lizard bitch creature moans about humans being worried about their lovers dying and how that's stupid, but the human characters constantly self-censor about the fact that they find it disturbing that lizard aliens don't care even if their babies die.
Some dude wants to fuck a computer.
It's tragic, really.
 
I tried reading her first idiotic novel. It was one of the worst things I have ever had the misfortune to try. On page one, one of the main characters complains about how he will never ever get used to the sight of white people. The thing is retarded. Some lizard bitch creature moans about humans being worried about their lovers dying and how that's stupid, but the human characters constantly self-censor about the fact that they find it disturbing that lizard aliens don't care even if their babies die.
That doesn't sound very cozy, kind or hopeful.
 
Sounds more like 'capitalism would be amazing if we did it properly and were nice to each other' consumerist SJW apology stuff.
If men were ideal then all systems would work ideally except, maybe fascism, i rather thought that was the point
 
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I looked her up on Goodreads. The writing style is workmanlike and rather didactic, which is hardly unexpected. It's heavily slanted towards the conventional neoliberal, socially progressive position, unsurprisingly. The thrust appears to be that boundless diversity of species, race within species, sexual expression and so on will produce a state somewhat less diverse than our own; all of the rainbow people, aliens and holograms are, by some extreme coincidence, rather like middle class Southern Californians. I've seen Starship Troopers...

The bit that really rankled, however, was this extract from The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet:

“Jenks walked around the bench, standing where Ashby could see him.
“Hi,” he said.
Ashby turned his head. “Hi.”
Jenks upturned the tub. The bolts clattered to the floor like heavy rain. “These are several hundred bolts. They are all different shapes and sizes, and Kizzy always keeps them in one communal tub. It drives me crazy.”
Ashby blinked. “Why are they on the floor?”
“Because we are going to sort them. We are going to sort them into nice, neat little piles. And then we’re going to take those piles and put them in smaller tubs, so that when I need a bolt, I don’t have to go digging.”
“I see.” Ashby blinked again. “Why are we doing this?”
“Because she jackass dumped them all over the floor, and they have to be cleaned up. And if they have to be cleaned up, we might as well sort them while we’re at it.” Jenks sat down, leaning comfortably against a planter. He began to pick through the bolts. “See, my best friend in the whole galaxy is currently on another ship, holed up in a wall, disarming hackjob explosives. … I want to do something, and it’s driving me…crazy that I can’t. I can’t even smoke because there are Aeluons around. So, fine. I’m going to sort bolts.” He swung his eyes up to Ashby. “And I think anybody who has similar feelings should join me.”
― Becky Chambers

'Kizzy' is supposed to be the best damn starship engineer in the whole of the known universe. Well of course she is. Everyone's the best damn something in the whole known somewhere; the place is a veritable blizzard of special snowflakes.

But back to the point: no engineer worth his or her salt would store bolts of different sizes in a single container. They have to be segregated by size and type because the engineer or mechanic needs to be able to find the right one in a hurry. Anyone who has ever made or done anything, from needlework to nuclear physics knows that it's vital to store things properly and in order. The same goes for clerical tasks, paperwork, archiving and so on.

Jenks, the male dullard, is dead right. The bolts need to be sorted by size and put into individual trugs.

The point here is that Kizzy Shao is supposed to be portrayed as a 'free spirit' who doesn't have time for mundane things such as sorting bolts by size. The reality, however, is that she wouldn't be like that if she really was the best damn engineer in the galaxy. What we end up with, therefore, is a completely wasted opportunity. We could have had a well done female engineer who inspires female readers to look at the subject in a new way. Instead we have a badly drawn slave to whacky characterisation, who ends up completely off piste and having to adopt a position inferior to the male because he is right in his approach to the problem. Ergo it's sexist. Bleech.
 
I looked her up on Goodreads. The writing style is workmanlike and rather didactic, which is hardly unexpected. It's heavily slanted towards the conventional neoliberal, socially progressive position, unsurprisingly. The thrust appears to be that boundless diversity of species, race within species, sexual expression and so on will produce a state somewhat less diverse than our own; all of the rainbow people, aliens and holograms are, by some extreme coincidence, rather like middle class Southern Californians. I've seen Starship Troopers...

The bit that really rankled, however, was this extract from The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet:

“Jenks walked around the bench, standing where Ashby could see him.
“Hi,” he said.
Ashby turned his head. “Hi.”
Jenks upturned the tub. The bolts clattered to the floor like heavy rain. “These are several hundred bolts. They are all different shapes and sizes, and Kizzy always keeps them in one communal tub. It drives me crazy.”
Ashby blinked. “Why are they on the floor?”
“Because we are going to sort them. We are going to sort them into nice, neat little piles. And then we’re going to take those piles and put them in smaller tubs, so that when I need a bolt, I don’t have to go digging.”
“I see.” Ashby blinked again. “Why are we doing this?”
“Because she jackass dumped them all over the floor, and they have to be cleaned up. And if they have to be cleaned up, we might as well sort them while we’re at it.” Jenks sat down, leaning comfortably against a planter. He began to pick through the bolts. “See, my best friend in the whole galaxy is currently on another ship, holed up in a wall, disarming hackjob explosives. … I want to do something, and it’s driving me…crazy that I can’t. I can’t even smoke because there are Aeluons around. So, fine. I’m going to sort bolts.” He swung his eyes up to Ashby. “And I think anybody who has similar feelings should join me.”
― Becky Chambers

'Kizzy' is supposed to be the best damn starship engineer in the whole of the known universe. Well of course she is. Everyone's the best damn something in the whole known somewhere; the place is a veritable blizzard of special snowflakes.

But back to the point: no engineer worth his or her salt would store bolts of different sizes in a single container. They have to be segregated by size and type because the engineer or mechanic needs to be able to find the right one in a hurry. Anyone who has ever made or done anything, from needlework to nuclear physics knows that it's vital to store things properly and in order. The same goes for clerical tasks, paperwork, archiving and so on.

Jenks, the male dullard, is dead right. The bolts need to be sorted by size and put into individual trugs.

The point here is that Kizzy Shao is supposed to be portrayed as a 'free spirit' who doesn't have time for mundane things such as sorting bolts by size. The reality, however, is that she wouldn't be like that if she really was the best damn engineer in the galaxy. What we end up with, therefore, is a completely wasted opportunity. We could have had a well done female engineer who inspires female readers to look at the subject in a new way. Instead we have a badly drawn slave to whacky characterisation, who ends up completely off piste and having to adopt a position inferior to the male because he is right in his approach to the problem. Ergo it's sexist. Bleech.
Only exception I've seen is a guy who had a "miscellaneous" pail for bolts and such of such odd sizes there weren't enough to warrant their own separate box/slot/etc.

Also proper sorting is a big help to teamwork environments. It's a poor use of time to have a project held up because one of your members is digging around to find a part.

What I would pay to have these writers work one shift at McDonald's.
 
Only exception I've seen is a guy who had a "miscellaneous" pail for bolts and such of such odd sizes there weren't enough to warrant their own separate box/slot/etc.

Also proper sorting is a big help to teamwork environments. It's a poor use of time to have a project held up because one of your members is digging around to find a part.

What I would pay to have these writers work one shift at McDonald's.
Around 7.25 an hour right?
 
What I would pay to have these writers work one shift at McDonald's.
Hardly any of the modern authors have ever worked a day in their fucking lives.

They've done nothing but be urban bugmen/women/xirmen. Nothing but sight see is safe countries or areas. Nothing but sit around and babble inane bullshit at one another.

Take a good hard look at a lot of popular modern fiction, including YA, and notice that nobody really knows how to do anything? How the world 'just works' and the only strife is what the authors put in that's barely any hardship for the main characters?

Take a good look at their backgrounds, and most of these people have never held a job and would cross the street after dialing 9-1 on their phone at the mere sight of someone with a tan.
 
Hardly any of the modern authors have ever worked a day in their fucking lives.

They've done nothing but be urban bugmen/women/xirmen. Nothing but sight see is safe countries or areas. Nothing but sit around and babble inane bullshit at one another.

Take a good hard look at a lot of popular modern fiction, including YA, and notice that nobody really knows how to do anything? How the world 'just works' and the only strife is what the authors put in that's barely any hardship for the main characters?

Take a good look at their backgrounds, and most of these people have never held a job and would cross the street after dialing 9-1 on their phone at the mere sight of someone with a tan.
Yeah, it's been bugging me more and more of late.

I mean say what you will, but Iron Man 1 at least showed Tony testing and failing at prototypes before he got a working version of his suit. Then Endgame rolls around and one night he just "happens" to realize how time travel works. Never mind any effort to test, experiment, and refine it in a collaborative work with his fellows.

Or the Star Trek of old (which would show them at least working with the made up tech) vs the new stuff:

Or just look at battles and fight scenes. These writers now just have one side go from overwhelmingly winning to then the other side doing it. There's never a back and forth of each side trying to grind out a single inch of advantage from the other. Compare to some of the martial art greats...

If writers were to ask me advice nowadays, I'd tell them forget about college or anything. (Where you just end up writing about writing for other writers.) Go work as many different jobs as you can for one year.
 
Never heard of her. Which means she'll win a Hugo soon, if she hasn't already. I assumed she wrote that series that Tumblr is all over right now, Murderbot? But nope, never heard of any of he books.

She met her Icelandic wife on a Star Trek RP chat.

A couple years later, they relocated to Iceland, where Chambers freelanced for US publications, all the while writing dialog and scenes for an unformed story about queer misfits in space. For a long time, Chambers didn’t think “it was a real book,” she says. “I was like, no one is going to want to read this. It’s not a real story. There are no planets blowing up.” The tension, in other words, was internal. It came from the characters.

Bitch, that ain't unique. There are plenty of sci fi stories that don't have big, interplanetary battles and explosions. There are a lot of futuristic slice of life works. You aren't a pioneer just because you didn't destroy the home world. :roll:
 
Bitch, that ain't unique. There are plenty of sci fi stories that don't have big, interplanetary battles and explosions. There are a lot of futuristic slice of life works. You aren't a pioneer just because you didn't destroy the home world. :roll:
And it's really tired and boring to the point where they just have to signal their identities and that's all the book seems to be about now "Oh this slice of life is LGBTQWTF and black! Give me virtue points!"
 
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