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Hey, where's that guy that was hyping Fukai Rio? You're slacking, dude. She released a cover earlier and she's damn good:

Society has progressed beyond the need for Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes, Clubhouse 51, Biped, and Super Bunny Man to be everyone's first special collab every single time.
I still enjoy watching KTANE if (and only if) there's a language barrier. Calli/Korone was legendary.
 
People joke but, clearly Hololive doesn't care about making pure seiso Idols. They just don't want their idols getting banned by jewtube for TOS violations. Frankly, there's zero reason for pure seiso idols. It's fucking silly. I don't want a virginal waifu. I want a waifu I can have a fucking beer with.
 

Uto's playing One Hand Clapping, come watch and be ready to die of diabetes this is too sweet and she's hilarious.
 
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I don't "browse" youtube or click Susan's recommendations. I just watch streams from my subscription page and clips on places where enthusiasts gather, like here. So if we're talking about clip content bias, hololive clippers overwhelmingly clip positive content, like funny fails, jokes, impressions, etc. In other words, no, I'm quite sure this isn't algorithmic or coincidence. I think she just whines a lot more. Not that this is some huge deal to go on a rant on, though.
I see, my bad then, nvm. I do have this feeling though about some external factor cuz I can tell you this much, most of the clips in general are not what I'd consider whining and are usually funny.
On the topic of Kiara. I do still wonder plenty if the hate is overblown or undeserved. I think this has a lot to do with who she is, this is a site that often puts people into good and bad. Well rather the internet as a whole does that, when it's not always that simple. I've pointed out in the past how everyone has contradictory personality traits and I think we see this a lot with Kiara. I will now both sides this debate.
Kiara is someone who has talked a lot about being thankful and grateful, but is the one who complains the most. This juxtaposition can be strange, and maybe possibly be related to her idol past.
>doesn't want to break the mold
>kept pestering Management for collab with VShoujo despite precedence of them saying no previously because it could conflict with their brand image
>kept talking about Irys before her debut
I'm getting mixed signals here
Mixed signals is right and may be why some hate her. She is paranoid to do something when there a slight bit of a fan backlash but with VShoujo she pushed for that despite management saying no at first. This could very well be because of fear of aggressive fans, the idol fans in Japan are ruthless and it feels that culture has effected her. She is strong but also weak, sometimes in different ways, sometimes in the same way.
I mean it's not "hard" though either at least not from any external source. 90% of the roadblock to it is just personal hangups and hesitance.

The more and more I watch hololivers that do interact with Holostars or other dudes to no fanfare or outcry, the more I realize 90% of the battle is just in their own heads.
Kiara's internal conflict between herself is her biggest personal issue and hopefully we can see her overcome it. I think she's fought through it a lot but it's still there. The issue of who Kiara wants to be and what her past tells her to be isn't an easy one to fix. Personally I think a little understanding can go a long way.

That's the problem. The resistance is small, but the current is not strong enough, even though it could be. Meaning, that the antis are a small problem, and the biggest issue is on the mind. Someone like Oga and Roberu can overcome this, someone like Kiara whose every step is filled with fear will not. "I was afraid that after being hired, I would fuck up and get fired." "I was walking in a crowd and I was afraid a stranger was stalking me." Those are her words, and her reactions. She cannot be the one to use her power to change things. She will instead use her safe space, which is the superchat readings with her most loyal to vent and continue on with her life. I congratulate her for being able to push on even when fear is lurking, but she cannot but be someone who is going to vent and be afraid. She doesn't have the mentality. She can persevere, but she doesn't get that much stronger. She has potential and abilities, but her psychology will probably always hold her back.
Here's to hoping you're wrong. Venting is good, fear is not, and here's to hoping she continues to push back on it.
 
People joke but, clearly Hololive doesn't care about making pure seiso Idols. They just don't want their idols getting banned by jewtube for TOS violations. Frankly, there's zero reason for pure seiso idols. It's fucking silly. I don't want a virginal waifu. I want a waifu I can have a fucking beer with.
I wouldn't go so far as to say there's no reason or they don't care entirely.

Them sweet sweet brand deals and partnerships to some extent rely on a clean image (You'll never see someone akin to a Vshoujo member landing a spot singing an Anime ED or as a "Mascot" for a Japanese sports team) and even in his interview with Coco YAGOO brought up the idea that as Hololive grows they have an increased "Social responsibility" which is basically just JP speak for a public responsibility to not veer too far off from Japanese values.

Not a ton of reason to be 100% neat and tidy certainly, but there's definitely incentives to keep some limits and statements of intention to enforce those limits even beyond youtube regulations.
 
I see, my bad then, nvm. I do have this feeling though about some external factor cuz I can tell you this much, most of the clips in general are not what I'd consider whining and are usually funny.
On the topic of Kiara. I do still wonder plenty if the hate is overblown or undeserved. I think this has a lot to do with who she is, this is a site that often puts people into good and bad. Well rather the internet as a whole does that, when it's not always that simple. I've pointed out in the past how everyone has contradictory personality traits and I think we see this a lot with Kiara. I will now both sides this debate.
Kiara is someone who has talked a lot about being thankful and grateful, but is the one who complains the most. This juxtaposition can be strange, and maybe possibly be related to her idol past.

Mixed signals is right and may be why some hate her. She is paranoid to do something when there a slight bit of a fan backlash but with VShoujo she pushed for that despite management saying no at first. This could very well be because of fear of aggressive fans, the idol fans in Japan are ruthless and it feels that culture has effected her. She is strong but also weak, sometimes in different ways, sometimes in the same way.

Kiara's internal conflict between herself is her biggest personal issue and hopefully we can see her overcome it. I think she's fought through it a lot but it's still there. The issue of who Kiara wants to be and what her past tells her to be isn't an easy one to fix. Personally I think a little understanding can go a long way.


Here's to hoping you're wrong. Venting is good, fear is not, and here's to hoping she continues to push back on it.
From what I saw she used to be a pretty big sjw on Twitter prior to making her debut and that's left a bad taste in many people's mouths.
I only discovered that being a part of that Eren Jaeger Discord last year and even their people were raving and trying to find out how deep the hole goes.
 
From what I saw she used to be a pretty big sjw on Twitter prior to making her debut and that's left a bad taste in many people's mouths.
I only discovered that being a part of that Eren Jaeger Discord last year and even their people were raving and trying to find out how deep the hole goes.
I've checked her Twitter for some keywords like "white" and it seems this SJW shit has changed at least. So I think me and a lot of people are willing to give others chances as long as they don't make the same mistake.

Uto's playing One Hand Clapping, come watch and be ready to die of diabetes this is too sweet and she's hilarious.
Uto is cuto
 
Really at this stage of the game the only thing holding any talents back from collabing with someone of the opposite gender is the talents themselves.
That has been pretty obvious for while now and i don't see anything wrong with it. If they don't want to collab with Holostars then they don't have to. Pressuring girls to do it is no way to go.
And it would not surprise me if Mori continues to be only one in Myth that does collabs with Stars because she is kinda safe zone for them where they don't have to worry about schizos.
Also Mori's schedule is up.
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People joke but, clearly Hololive doesn't care about making pure seiso Idols. They just don't want their idols getting banned by jewtube for TOS violations. Frankly, there's zero reason for pure seiso idols. It's fucking silly. I don't want a virginal waifu. I want a waifu I can have a fucking beer with.
No company with that in mind would have people like Amelia, Haachama, Coco and Marine on board. It would in fact be fucking boring since they would have a lot of the same, having someone like Sora, Ina is cool but not a whole cast of them. Too much spice gives you a stomachache, too little of it makes a bland meal lol!
>I got hidden from Pippa's channel for making fun of the jannies
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That's how you do it! Great job, lol!
Maybe in the short term but have you been following the evergrande events? I wouldn't be putting my eggs in china's basket
Hook me up, I looked it up a little and it seems they might fuck China hard in the ass with debt. I loathe them so this is some amazing news if true!
From what I saw she used to be a pretty big sjw on Twitter prior to making her debut and that's left a bad taste in many people's mouths.
I only discovered that being a part of that Eren Jaeger Discord last year and even their people were raving and trying to find out how deep the hole goes.
If people are going to hate female streamers based solely on this there won't be many to watch, women fall for this shit way easier than men do, the ones that don't wear dresses, at least. Politics are a personal thing so I'm fine with the chicken having her own beliefs as long as they don't shit up her performance, which they don't as of now!
 
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