Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[UnKillFill]

If your fucking jab did anything meaningful to stop transmission of the slightly more contagious flu, then it wouldn't really mater if I refused it or not, would it?

Likewise, if this was actually something *good* that you wanted to jab into my arm, then you assholes wouldn't be threatening my ability to work and make a living for myself (during a worker shortage no less) just because I said no thankyou. Respectfully, Fuck You.

At this point, I don't even fucking care if the vaccines are actually harmful. This clearly *is* a conspiracy, and the villains are clearly the ones trying to force us to take a jab, even after they've been wrong about this entire pandemic at literally every turn so far, and even after they've been caught in... so many lies.

Just look at how anybody who publically questions the narrative suddenly becomes public enemy number one to the entire media.

You jabfaggots have literally made my sympathize with Nicki Minaj. I wouldn't have even thought that was possible before these recent events... Her music is shit. It always has been. But you fuckers are all somehow *so* much worse.

If you're still demanding that I take your jab, please kill yourself.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I don’t think the vaccine is particularly dangerous, nor that it’s part of a depopulation scheme or whatever. Best case scenario, it’s a vaccine that isn’t quite as effective as we hoped. Worst case scenario, it’s a trial run to test their ability to achieve 100% compliance.

Thats my thing. There's no 5G reciever, or killswitch command or any other disinfo thats been spread online. The worst is gonna be that in 20 years I'm gonna see commercials say "If you were effected by the Pfizer vaccine, you might be entitled to huge cash settlements" that will only apply to like 1-2% of the people. And on I love the 20's, it will be a bunch of trying to be relevant aging e-celebs going "Haha, remember that vaccine. What a crazy time, that was."

The cult like mentality of the pfizer vaccinators simps is fucked up and I want no part of it. Crazy to see the the left so support of the establishment plans and bootlicking big pharm.

 

[AnOminous]

The cult like mentality of the pfizer vaccinators simps is fucked up and I want no part of it. Crazy to see the the left so support of the establishment plans and bootlicking big pharm.

Yeah I believe in the germ theory of disease even though Big Retard the Internet says it's wrong. I also believe in gravity and evolution and the gender binary, oh wait, the last isn't establishment any more.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Yeah I believe in the germ theory of disease

Cool. so do I. Still not taking this vaccine for a virus thats not that dangerous from a company with a sketchy history.

 

[AnOminous]

Cool. so do I. Still not taking this vaccine for a virus thats not that dangerous from a company with a sketchy history.

You think only one company has produced one?

 

[gurutu]

You think only one company has produced one?

Unlikely that there's a single one of them without a sketchy history, though.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Unlikely that there's a single one of them without a sketchy history, though.

Good thing there's people who have studied such issues and have devoted their careers to studying it to verify that it's safe for the general population. You know, scientists, who know a lot more about it than some random spazes on Kiwi Farms

 

[gurutu]

it's safe for the general population

I'm not saying it isn't.

have studied such issues and have devoted their careers to studying it

Yeah, also good that there are also others devoting their careers to give their company maximum profits regardless of any ethical concern. And good that us, being "random spazes on Kiwi Farms" as you put it, wouldn't be able to tell the difference easily. Ignorance goes both ways.

 

[JamusActimus]

I just hope the general public will refuse 3th/4th doses when the time comes because unless they make a new vacine to counter the variants new doses won't be very usefull.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Kinda funny how both sides in this debate accuse the other of being in a cult tbh.

Any thread regarding politics or the panedmic is a garbage fire and a lot of people are saying a lot of stupid shit.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I'm not saying it isn't.

Yeah, also good that there are also others devoting their careers to give their company maximum profits regardless of any ethical concern. And good that us, being "random spazes on Kiwi Farms" as you put it, wouldn't be able to tell the difference easily. Ignorance goes both ways.

Good thing not every scientist works for the pharmaceutical companies then, right?

 

[BLTAnnihilator]

I'm only skeptical of it because they're forcing it now, and not only that, but vaccines typically tend to eliminate transmission capability pretty damn fast, and it doesn't do that whatsoever with Covid.

Also I am pretty sure I've already had it, the Vaccine's not really even worth getting. Get knocked on my ass for a day, just so the government can say that I have no excuse not to work, as someone who's self-employed anyways in a job that doesn't really have much societal impact, when I also rarely ever go near other people, and I often bathe, wash my hands and wear a mask when in buildings anyways?

Like for real the fuck are we dealing with? Covid? or a goddamn Terminator Plague?

I'm skeptical because I pretty much never get sick, it's being forced, and people are acting like it'll remove the virus once we get 100% vaccinations. I inherently avoid doing shit that retards tell me I should do unless it makes sense by itself and getting "Vaccinated" doesn't make any sense for this. 1. Covid ain't fucking going anywhere, it's just gonna eventually mutate to the point that people will literally be calling it The Flu in a few years 'cause it's no big deal, I mean, apparently the Delta Variant is less deadly than the original, as viruses tend to do when they mutate, they get less severe more often than not, otherwise these damn plagues would happen every year if that wasn't the case.
2. I don't fucking trust the government to not screw me over on less serious shit, and I'm seriously supposed to expect them to not be sneaking in some shit they've paid all the experts (Who tell yo to ignore the other experts btw) to just ignore and I'm supposed to trust this and take it?
Ain't a snowball's chance in hell. I'll live off goddamn gas station minute rice if I have to, better safe than fucking sorry, I've been fucked over so many times by not listening to my gut, I'm just going to listen to it for once on this one and the government can fuck itself if it thinks Shame affects me.

Oh no, I need to be vaccinated in order to enter all businesses, okay, I'll pay my neighbor to do my shopping for me, fuckin whatever. I'm sure he could use an extra 50 bucks! xD

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I'm seriously supposed to expect them to not be sneaking in some shit

What do you expect to be in the vaccine? This line of thinking mesmerizes me. You drink water from the tap, you eat food from the store. You get regular medication from the pharmacy. You use some sort of internet-capable device to shitpost and watch porn (like any cultivated man of wisdom should).

Yet this is the thing that you think the goverment might spike with something? If they are evil enough to sneak something into the jab, what makes you think everything else is safe?

The rest of what you said, yeah, okay, I can get behind that. But that one line really surprises me whenever I read it somewhere.

 

[Protistology]

What do you expect to be in the vaccine? This line of thinking mesmerizes me. You drink water from the tap, you eat food from the store. You get regular medication from the pharmacy. You use some sort of internet-capable device to shitpost and watch porn (like any cultivated man of wisdom should).

Yet this is the thing that you think the goverment might spike with something? If they are evil enough to sneak something into the jab, what makes you think everything else is safe?

The rest of what you said, yeah, okay, I can get behind that. But that one line really surprises me whenever I read it somewhere.

The inventor of mRNA technology says the vaccines says they are unsafe.

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The former vice president of Pfizer says the vaccines says they are unsafe.

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If the head of Tyson said "don't eat our products" I wouldn't.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

The inventor of mRNA technology says the vaccines says they are unsafe.

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The former vice president of Pfizer says the vaccines says they are unsafe.

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If the head of Tyson said "don't eat our products" I wouldn't.

You missed the point. This isn't about whether the vaccines are safe or unsafe, it's about why should the government fuck with those vaccines specifically and with nothing else.

If one assumes that the government puts illicit shit in the jab, why the jab instead of anything else where they could do it a lot smarter, without any issues and without raising suspicion?
Shit just doesn't add up, the goverment could just add that shit to every other vaccine and no one would ever know. If it's not something that needs to go into the bloodstream directly, distribution via tap water would be more reasonable. It's "chemtrails" all over again if you ask me.

As for the supposed risks of the vaccine that you bring up, what specific risks are we talking about? As far as I'm concerned:

Short term?
I've not had any issues with my jab, neither has had anyone I know had any issue - and we are talking about an extensive circle of family, friends and coworkers. So based on anecdotal (or small-scale empirical, if you will) evidence, everything's fine in Domus-land. Official statistical data also doesn't suggest any high short term risk. Even notoriously dangerous Astrazeneca (which isn't even mRNA-based) had insanely low odds of being harmful. In the ballpark of 1:250,000 iirc - significantly less risky than getting Covid for even the fittest demographic, which stands at 1:500. Of course, these official numbers could be doctored and I expect you to dismiss them outright, but what does that leave us with? Hearsay? Unofficial numbers? In case of the latter, what makes them more reliable or trustworthy in your eyes? Where do they even come from and what are they based on? And what prevents me from disregarding them like you did with the official numbers?

Long term?
Yeah, long term risk assessment is something that could not be done with this vaccine, but on the other hand, what kind of possible effects are we talking about? This isn't exactly witchcraft. We know how RNA works, specifically how mRNA works, and the stuff isn't exactly known for being long-lived. The moment these protein-chains break down, they become inert. Where is some supposed risk coming from? This does not alter anything in your body, it mirrors a well researched and well understood functionality that happens inside every single cell of your body at every moment of your existense. It does not introduce any foreign chemical into your body like medication usually does. It does not reproduce itself in your body and it certainly won't get "a life of its own" and do crazy shit. It's just a blueprint that turns your cell into a printer for spike proteins that cause a reaction of the immune system. You know, sort of like what the virus does, only it doesn't produce the virus, only a part of its surface to clue in your own defensive mechanism of how to identify and exterminate the virus.
People expecting this to turn out like thalidomide are misguided and usually neither understand how thalidomide worked or how mRNA vaccines work. These "your babies will be born crippled" folks are just scared by big scary sciency words like RNA and their own lack of knowledge. Add a giant heap of mistrust towards their own goverment and you end up with a shitton of wild theories that can be discarded wholesale.

So what are reasonable and realistic long time risks?

 

[Protistology]

If the vaccine is harmless than why don't our masters take it?

One fifth on the guests at Obama's birthday gone Covid. Why weren't they vaccinated?

Short term effects:

Long term effects:

 

[AnOminous]

If the vaccine is harmless than why don't our masters take it?

If it's unsafe, why have all the dipshits preaching against it on FoxNews had it?

 

[PFM]

If it's unsafe, why have all the dipshits preaching against it on FoxNews had it?

Have you ever sat through a commercial break on Fox News?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Long term?
Yeah, long term risk assessment is something that could not be done with this vaccine, but on the other hand, what kind of possible effects are we talking about? This isn't exactly witchcraft. We know how RNA works, specifically how mRNA works, and the stuff isn't exactly known for being long-lived. The moment these protein-chains break down, they become inert. Where is some supposed risk coming from? This does not alter anything in your body, it mirrors a well researched and well understood functionality that happens inside every single cell of your body at every moment of your existense. It does not introduce any foreign chemical into your body like medication usually does. It does not reproduce itself in your body and it certainly won't get "a life of its own" and do crazy shit. It's just a blueprint that turns your cell into a printer for spike proteins that cause a reaction of the immune system. You know, sort of like what the virus does, only it doesn't produce the virus, only a part of its surface to clue in your own defensive mechanism of how to identify and exterminate the virus.

From the act of teaching your body to destroy something made by your own body - which again I cannot stress how promising this is for cancer & prion cures in the future - but to act like priming your T-cells to murk cells affected by proteins created by your own body and B-cells to start shooting out antibodies at stuff also produced from your own cells has no potential risk for long-term complications is ignorant at best and outright dishonest at worst.

If it's unsafe, why have all the dipshits preaching against it on FoxNews had it?

Nobody outside of boomers cares about Fox News.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

You missed the point. This isn't about whether the vaccines are safe or unsafe, it's about why should the government fuck with those vaccines specifically and with nothing else.

If one assumes that the government puts illicit shit in the jab, why the jab instead of anything else where they could do it a lot smarter, without any issues and without raising suspicion?
Shit just doesn't add up, the goverment could just add that shit to every other vaccine and no one would ever know. If it's not something that needs to go into the bloodstream directly, distribution via tap water would be more reasonable. It's "chemtrails" all over again if you ask me.

As for the supposed risks of the vaccine that you bring up, what specific risks are we talking about? As far as I'm concerned:

Short term?
I've not had any issues with my jab, neither has had anyone I know had any issue - and we are talking about an extensive circle of family, friends and coworkers. So based on anecdotal (or small-scale empirical, if you will) evidence, everything's fine in Domus-land. Official statistical data also doesn't suggest any high short term risk. Even notoriously dangerous Astrazeneca (which isn't even mRNA-based) had insanely low odds of being harmful. In the ballpark of 1:250,000 iirc - significantly less risky than getting Covid for even the fittest demographic, which stands at 1:500. Of course, these official numbers could be doctored and I expect you to dismiss them outright, but what does that leave us with? Hearsay? Unofficial numbers? In case of the latter, what makes them more reliable or trustworthy in your eyes? Where do they even come from and what are they based on? And what prevents me from disregarding them like you did with the official numbers?

Long term?
Yeah, long term risk assessment is something that could not be done with this vaccine, but on the other hand, what kind of possible effects are we talking about? This isn't exactly witchcraft. We know how RNA works, specifically how mRNA works, and the stuff isn't exactly known for being long-lived. The moment these protein-chains break down, they become inert. Where is some supposed risk coming from? This does not alter anything in your body, it mirrors a well researched and well understood functionality that happens inside every single cell of your body at every moment of your existense. It does not introduce any foreign chemical into your body like medication usually does. It does not reproduce itself in your body and it certainly won't get "a life of its own" and do crazy shit. It's just a blueprint that turns your cell into a printer for spike proteins that cause a reaction of the immune system. You know, sort of like what the virus does, only it doesn't produce the virus, only a part of its surface to clue in your own defensive mechanism of how to identify and exterminate the virus.
People expecting this to turn out like thalidomide are misguided and usually neither understand how thalidomide worked or how mRNA vaccines work. These "your babies will be born crippled" folks are just scared by big scary sciency words like RNA and their own lack of knowledge. Add a giant heap of mistrust towards their own goverment and you end up with a shitton of wild theories that can be discarded wholesale.

So what are reasonable and realistic long time risks?

You're only convincing yourself at this point. The people who want the covid vaccines have already received them. The people who are staunchly against it for various reasons will keep abstaining. Both groups have their reasons and they are both fine. The problem is the militant fervor being pushed by the higher ups to get the jab. There's no denying the various responses and hypocrisy (most recent of which is the Met Gala) continue to show that this disease isn't all that serious and by extension the militant push for the vaccines is rather suspect and unreasonable.