Canada Federal election 2021

[Sevatonius]

Trudeau didn't win the election, he survived it. Bought himself a year or two at most.

He set out with a snap election thinking he could form a Majority government the moment he thought he had a little clout. Instead he once again has to form a minority government. If the conservatives hadn't nominated a boring as dirt random as party leader, they could have made better headway. Erin O'Tool is likely going to get the boot or resign in the coming months and the party reshuffled.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

Also add in that any attempts to fix this are guaranteed to fail thanks to Trudeau Sr - short version, probably got something wrong because who gives a fuck about Canadian History, when he was PM he managed to get us the ability to actually change our own constitution without needing to ask the British. He got every Province to sign onto this - except for Quebec - and he went ahead with it. Now any time we want to change anything the French can just go lul no, and why would they want to fix a system that gives them power over a majority of the country?

Western Canada just needs to become its own fucking country. Least that way we could actually use Alberta’s Oil…

The end of the cuckdom came in 1995 when money and the ethnic vote prevented Quebec's seperation referendum from succeeding. Had the yes vote won, Canada would have been forced to evolve or be dismembered. Instead the cuckdom limps along like a zombie waiting for its limbs to fall off (western and Quebec Seperation). The Laurentian Elite like Trudeau and O'Toole (and Bernier btw) cower in their urban centres and universities using transfer payments from the colonies to bribe the ethnic vote into keeping them in power.

 

[soy_king]

Trudeau didn't win the election, he survived it. Bought himself a year or two at most.

He set out with a snap election thinking he could form a Majority government the moment he thought he had a little clout. Instead he once again has to form a minority government. If the conservatives nominate a boring as dirt random as party Leader, they could have made better headway. Erin O'Tool is likely going to get the boot or resign in the coming months and the party reshuffled.

So, which retard in the Liberal Party decided to have an election where literally nothing changed and they wasted millions of dollars?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

So, which retard in the Liberal Party decided to have an election where literally nothing changed and they wasted millions of dollars?

You rang?

 

[General Tug Boat]

5.25 percent is pretty impressive considering PPC only had 1.6 percent last election. The fact that in this election we smoked the fucking greens out still makes me smile, but in the current political climate it wasn't like that there was going to be a huge swing for either party.

All things considered for such a new party and it being 4th in the major races shows there is still more room to grow. Being able to also get funding for next time around will make campaigning a lot nicer all things considered. I'm impressed by the growth, even though we didn't get a seat, hopefully next time there is more of a presence.

We are about 80 percent of the way complete, so the Libs getting a majority still could happen, but wouldn't hold my breath. The voter turn out was low like usual 40 percent, but at least there are some small victories tonight. The timing for an election was ridiculous, but all things considered things didn't change all that much after today. Good show for the rest of the world though at least, they get a couple more years of entertainment for our hot mess of a Prime Minister.

 

[Ser Prize]

The end of the cuckdom came in 1995 when money and the ethnic vote prevented Quebec's seperation referendum from succeeding. Had the yes vote won, Canada would have been forced to evolve or be dismembered. Instead the cuckdom limps along like a zombie waiting for its limbs to fall off (western and Quebec Seperation). The Laurentian Elite like Trudeau and O'Toole (and Bernier btw) cower in their urban centres and universities using transfer payments from the colonies to bribe the ethnic vote into keeping them in power.

It's not like it was a true separation. Look up the terms; they still wanted the fucking equalization payments.

 

[Local Fed]

Canada on the other hand, especially post-Trump win in USA, seems like their national identity is increasingly about how much more progressive they are than their southern neighbours.

This is essentially correct. Much of Canadian culture, for some time, has been kind of centered about having no real culture. If you've ever heard the term "economic zone," that's what Canada has increasingly presented itself to be (whether you're in favour of this or find it abhorrent.) We have our things like hockey and poutine and other very shallow things, but culturally we've been thoroughly directed to being just a place where people live and consume/produce; identity doesn't mean much really, a freshly resettled Afghan refugee is seen as just as Canadian as someone whose family has been tending the same farm in Alberta since the 1800s. We also suffer much of the same anti-white/anti-European majority sentiments that you see in the US/western countries.

To add to what @America's Hat just posted a few minutes ago about Canadians not caring about Canadian politics: it's pretty accurate. I would bet a few toonies that the average Canadian cares and would know more about American politics than they do our own. It helps pacify people here too that the three major parties aren't really even strikingly different than one another and it's accepted by most people that there isn't that much difference between them (not to say that the American parties are all that different than each other either, but they put on a better show.)

 

[America's Hat]

Trudeau didn't win the election, he survived it. Bought himself a year or two at most.

He set out with a snap election thinking he could form a Majority government the moment he thought he had a little clout. Instead he once again has to form a minority government. If the conservatives hadn't nominated a boring as dirt random as party leader, they could have made better headway. Erin O'Tool is likely going to get the boot or resign in the coming months and the party reshuffled.

You're severely downplaying O'Toole, the Liberals were set for 60% majority with all other risk of a minority. No one was ready for the elections, NDP specifically was still in debt from the last election, and Trudeau saw an opportunity for a 10year reign, while quashing all the investigations into his affairs. O'Toole will most likely win the eternal caucus but the vote from party members will be split. He has a chance of remaining. An issue that hurt him and helped Trudeau is O'Toole's gun reclassification. There's a reason this pandemic became about gun control, it sells well to the GTA and Quebec, which is exactly where Trudeau was losing. Trudeau still did poorly in BC and Atlantic, but being anti-gun sells extremely well in the illegal shooting capitol of Canada (even though his government is lenient on criminals with guns, but GTA and Montrealer's aren't intelligent).

So, which retard in the Liberal Party decided to have an election where literally nothing changed and they wasted millions of dollars?

Trudeau, he had a really good chance of a majority, which is 4 years of freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.

 

[Sevatonius]

So, which retard in the Liberal Party decided to have an election where literally nothing changed and they wasted millions of dollars?

It was ultimately his call. He dumped all that money into election at the same time Canada Health started rumbling about a new Covid wave. Between this failure, the earlier scandals, the new Blackface allegations and the fact he did it after stoking the Covid fears he's now totally tainted, and he's utterly fucked if braindead liberal voters wake the fuck up and let him and the party take an L

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

To add to what @America's Hat just posted a few minutes ago about Canadians not caring about Canadian politics: it's pretty accurate. I would bet a few toonies that the average Canadian cares and would know more about American politics than they do our own. It helps pacify people here too that the three major parties aren't really even strikingly different than one another and it's accepted by most people that there isn't that much difference between them (not to say that the American parties are all that different than each other either, but they put on a better show.)

In fairness compared to our politics, American Politics are a fucking blood sport, and get much better TV coverage. But yeah, it’s telling that of the parties we have up here, the only one anyone knows beyond being kinda there is the PPC, and thats just “Upset French Man makes his own Conservative Party, with Blackjack and Hookers”

Good odds the PPC winds up being labeled the White Supremist Party or some shit by the Canadian Propaganda Corp…

Trudeau, he had a really good chance of a majority, which is 4 years of freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.

Now instead we have however many years of him being a lame duck unless the street shitter votes along with everything he wants. What a nothingburger of an election.

 

[America's Hat]

Now instead we have however many years of him being a lame duck unless the street shitter votes along with everything he wants. What a nothingburger of an election.

There's two benefits of him calling the election, all bills in progress immediately are worthless and have to be re-argued through the house and senate. A lot of the bills were horrible for the average Canadian and without the risk of Trudeau calling an election, more can be debated. Secondly, the investigations will go forward, as the CPC, NDP and BQ will all vote for investigations into Trudeau's party.

 

[Kiwisee]

Can we just kick out Quebec from Canada? They clearly hate us and we hate them, so it’d be a mutually beneficial break up

 

[Dogfacefuke]

If the Liberals would push for mushrooms to be legalized I'd vote for them tbh

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

If the Liberals would push for mushrooms to be legalized I'd vote for them tbh

I mean, legal weed is arguably what got them in in the first place, go with what works right?

 

[Sevatonius]

You're severely downplaying O'Toole, the Liberals were set for 60% majority with all other risk of a minority

You're right he did a fantastic job stopping the Liberal train. I guess it's just he gives off Stephen Dion / Michael Ignatieff vibes. A caretaker party leader waiting for someone more appealing to take the helm.

 

[Kiwisee]

I guess we’ll be having an election every two years now

 

[Scale Smerch]

ToI would bet a few toonies that the average Canadian cares and would know more about American politics than they do our own.

You're definitely not wrong, but a lot of it comes down to American politics arguably having more impact over our daily lives than our own federal politics. US economic policy effectively dictates our own, US foreign policy heavily influences what we do on the international stage, hell even American social trends have a habit of border jumping and specifying the next big topic up here: it's part in parcel of living beside the world's main superpower, you either keep track of what they do or you're left wondering why nothing is working as expected.

Also the sheer entertainment value, whatever one may think of American politics, it's never boring. Unlike the Canadian version.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

It's not like it was a true separation. Look up the terms; they still wanted the fucking equalization payments.

I agree and it had the chance to develop into a much better system. Equalization was a bargaining chip but handing Quebec control over a wide range of federal powers including resources and Immigration is a model that should have been replicated in the west and the Atlantic as well as Ontario outside of the GTA.

A half dozen nations with mutual defense and free trade is what confederation should have been. Not a post colonial feifdom closer in structure to South Africa than the United Kingdom.

 

[America's Hat]

You're right he did a fantastic job stopping the Liberal train. I guess it's just he gives off Stephen Dion / Michael Ignatieff vibes. A caretaker party leader waiting for someone more appealing to take the helm.

Michael Ignatieff was so bad that he gave Harper a majority and made the NDP the official opposition. O'Toole isn't even close to that level of bad. If the PPC started getting seats in extremely conservative ridings and the conservative lost all seats with strong liberals, then they'd be equivalent.

But since you brough up Michael Ignatieff, I'll mention he's prime example on why Canadians can only choose between CPC and LPC. If half of the CPC voters went PPC, then LPC would have supermajority. The same is true for LPC voting NDP, a CPC supermajority (which happened with Michael Ignatieff). The issue as voters is we are punished for voting 3rd party (or secondary party) in this system, leaning to us having no choice but choosing between whichever of both options given we would like. The NDP has never been any greater then official opposition in a majority government, and they lost it right after. Third parties don't win and just hurt the outcomes you seek.

 

[Local Fed]

You're definitely not wrong, but a lot of it comes down to American politics arguably having more impact over our daily lives than our own federal politics. US economic policy effectively dictates our own, US foreign policy heavily influences what we do on the international stage, hell even American social trends have a habit of border jumping and specifying the next big topic up here: it's part in parcel of living beside the world's main superpower, you either keep track of what they do or you're left wondering why nothing is working as expected.

Also the sheer entertainment value, whatever one may think of American politics, it's never boring. Unlike the Canadian version.

I agree. I didn't mean for my post to come across as if I'm confused as to why the average Canadian is more invested in what's happening to the south of us politically. As was brought up earlier by someone, a lot of Canadian political/culturally identity is posturing as "our progressive-ing" each other (to show how we're so much better than the US.) As you pointed out, too, much of our culture comes from the US, including much of the worst aspects of it. For anyone who isn't Canadian, by no means should you think that the Kardashians aren't a-list here, that we don't have our share of wiggers and unhinged social justice types who take their cues from what you see in the average major American city (including a lot of BLM stuff last year,) and don't get the impression that the youth is just listening to old Rush albums or something.