Pedophilia in the gay community - oh no, homophobia

[NerdShamer]

You don't even realise how wrong you are, do you? Dude you dug, like, 10 graves to yourself already. Why you keep sentencing yourself to lifetime in jail? There's no kids to fuck, mind you

Please be patient, he has Down's Syndrome, even though they usually aren't retarded enough to die on this hill.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

A fetish is something that turns you on, plain and simple. Sex doesn't have to be involved in the thing that you get off to, but looking at it makes you want to do sex things.

It's not rocket science Jesus Christ. A glasses fetish doesn't mean you want to stick your dick in some frames, it means someone wearing glasses is extra sexy you.

So, if you have a fetish for transforming shit, and you put that fetish on a 9 year old, the only conclusion to be had is that you need to be on a list or shot against a wall.

 

[ryu289]

A fetish is something that turns you on, plain and simple. Sex doesn't have to be involved in the thing that you get off to, but looking at it makes you want to do sex things.

It's not rocket science Jesus Christ. A glasses fetish doesn't mean you want to stick your dick in some frames, it means someone wearing glasses is extra sexy you.

I think you are thinking of a kink. A fetish is different.

So, if you have a fetish for transforming shit, and you put that fetish on a 9 year old, the only conclusion to be had is that you need to be on a list or shot against a wall.

What about an older guy turning into a 9 year old girl, which is what the pic was about? Off coruse I was there for a mtf werewolf, not the age regression.

 

[Spoonomancer]

yo @ryu289 mind explaining something?

 

[ryu289]

Yes, but it gets off on the act of transformation itself, not the fact the character is a child. You are conflating this with pedophilia. Also you asume the pic was a transformation of a 9-year girl into something else, but it was someone becoming the werewolf undergoing a tg and age regression in the process.

So everyone here is making alot of incorrect assumptions about the pic to derail this thread.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

I think you are thinking of a kink. A fetish is different.

What about an older guy turning into a 9 year old girl, which is what the pic was about? Off coruse I was there for a mtf werewolf, not the age regression.

Yeah if you enjoy the idea of anyone turning into a child I stand by my point.

Also fetish/kink, same thing. You find feet kinky? You have a foot fetish. You find the idea of someone transforming into a child appealing? You are a pedophile.

A fetish is something that gives you sexual pleasure. No problems with that until it's something that involves harmful shit, like parties who can not consent.

 

[GenociderSyo]

So does this mean we got our answer about pedophiles in the gay community? OP probably had no idea what info his thread would cause to come out.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Transformation fetishes aren't about sexual acts. Nice try.

Oi fucktard nonce...

Definition of FETISH

an object (such as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

: an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression

This is the only fitting definition of fetish, if we're talking about your fetish.

When did you start thinking you got to define the meaning of words?

 

[ryu289]

Yeah if you enjoy the idea of anyone turning into a child I stand by my point.

I wasn't there for that.

You find the idea of someone transforming into a child appealing? You are a pedophile.

Why? Pedophilia isn't a fetish, it is a sexual attraction to children. Try again.

an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression

Yes it is not about having sexual acts with others in this case.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Yes it is not about having sexual acts with others in this case

you're obviously deliberately misunderstanding.

You're also a nonce whose personal details are online. You clearly like causing drama. Good luck with that.

 

[ryu289]

you're obviously deliberately misunderstanding.

How so? You think transformation fiction is about seeing sexual acts done to another and getting of on it?

This is the only fitting definition of fetish, if we're talking about your fetish.

The main problem with this argument is that dictionaries are descriptive in nature, rather than prescriptive, meaning that they attempt to describe how people use the language, rather than instruct them how to do so in a definitive manner.

Accordingly, dictionary definitions don’t always reflect the meaning of words as they’re used by people in reality. This can happen for various reasons, such as that the dictionary definition doesn’t list all the connotations of a word, or that the dictionary definition doesn’t capture the new meaning of a word that has been recently turned into slang.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

I wasn't there for that.

Why? Pedophilia isn't a fetish, it is a sexual attraction to children. Try again.

Yes it is not about having sexual acts with others in this case.

Ok, if your fetish is not sexual, please explain to me why you enjoy looking at this content. What drives you to look at it? If it isn't that it makes your penis feel tingly, what is it?

Also, if it is only the transformation part that is a fetish, then why is a child any part of it? Why aren't they transforming into something inanimate, for example? Why are they specifically transforming into a 9 year old child? What is the need for that? Surely you could enjoy transforming into anything if the act of transformation itself is the fetish, so why make it so someone transforms into a child?

Oh and pedos have a fetish for doing things with children. It's not an orientation, it's nothing like being straight or gay. Just like many serial killers who had sexual elements to their murders had a fetish for violent sexual acts. They couldn't get off without that being involved. They didn't have an orientation go being only sexually attracted to someone who they raped and murdered. The act of doing it was the fetish. Or if you wanted to be less extreme, let's go back to feet. Someone with a foot fetish is sexually attracted to feet. Being attracted to feet is not a sexual orientation.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia- a deviant sexual fetish like voyeurism and necrophilia.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

How so? You think transformation fiction is about seeing sexual acts done to another and getting of on it?

The main problem with this argument is that dictionaries are descriptive in nature, rather than prescriptive, meaning that they attempt to describe how people use the language, rather than instruct them how to do so in a definitive manner.

Accordingly, dictionary definitions don’t always reflect the meaning of words as they’re used by people in reality. This can happen for various reasons, such as that the dictionary definition doesn’t list all the connotations of a word, or that the dictionary definition doesn’t capture the new meaning of a word that has been recently turned into slang.

have you been diagnosed with a personality disorder?

You don't get to define words to fit your desired meaning.

You should stop watching Vouche. It's not very good for your mental health.

See, I've met lots of people like you. they were all freshly out of nick for noncing offenses.

They sounded like you, looked like smug cunts like you. For a bit. Then reality caught up with them.

Now, as we all know, you have a habit of replying "yeah but no" bullshit, with pointless links. I don't fucking care.

You are a nonce and you will get yours.

FOADASAP

 

[Spoonomancer]

Yes, but it gets off on the act of transformation itself, not the fact the character is a child. You are conflating this with pedophilia. Also you asume the pic was a transformation of a 9-year girl into something else, but it was someone becoming the werewolf undergoing a tg and age regression in the process.

So everyone here is making alot of incorrect assumptions about the pic to derail this thread.

you're getting off to a piece that involves a minor character in a fetish that's high-key weird.

 

[ryu289]

Ok, if your fetish is not sexual, please explain to me why you enjoy looking at this content. What drives you to look at it? If it isn't that it makes your penis feel tingly, what is it?

You are playing with words here. Having a tf fetish isn't the same as pedophilia, so please stop trying to conflate the issue.

Oh and pedos have a fetish for doing things with children. It's not an orientation, it's nothing like being straight or gay.

Ah no:

Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

It's not about sexual behavior. In fact:

Pedophilia is not a legal term,[10] and having a sexual attraction to children is not illegal.[7] In law enforcement circles, the term pedophile is sometimes used informally to refer to any person who commits one or more sexually-based crimes that relate to legally underage victims.

The words pedophile and pedophilia are commonly used informally to describe an adult's sexual interest in pubescent or post-pubescent teenagers. The terms hebephilia or ephebophilia may be more accurate in these cases.[10][27][137]

Another common usage of pedophilia is to refer to the act of sexual abuse itself,[2] rather than the medical meaning, which is a preference for prepubescents on the part of the older individual (see above for an explanation of the distinction).

I mean if you are a straight man then do you have a fetish for doing things with women?

Also, if it is only the transformation part that is a fetish, then why is a child any part of it? Why aren't they transforming into something inanimate, for example? Why are they specifically transforming into a 9 year old child? What is the need for that? Surely you could enjoy transforming into anything if the act of transformation itself is the fetish, so why make it so someone transforms into a child?

Again it was also a mtf werewolf tf, which I was only there for.

Just like many serial killers who had sexual elements to their murders had a fetish for violent sexual acts. They couldn't get off without that being involved.

That's more of a kink. Try again.

Someone with a foot fetish is sexually attracted to feet. Being attracted to feet is not a sexual orientation.

Then by that logic I don't have an attraction to children.

you're getting off to a piece that involves a minor character in a fetish that's high-key weird.

Not because they are a minor. I mean by your definition I should be getting off on that right?

 

[RurkerHivemind]

Can Null Himself give this Ryu Nonce a month suspension already?

This topic thread is clearly going nowhere but in a circular direction and it got old pages ago.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Exclusivity is not required for pedophila.
When diagnosing Pedophilic Disorder you choose these specifiers if required:
Specify whether: Exclusive type. Nonexclusive type
Specify if: Sexually attracted to males. Sexually attracted to females. Sexually attracted to both
Specify if: Limited to incest

Trying to get this back on topic for the few of us that were attempting to have an actual discussion:

Though reading this makes you wonder since those of us not attempting to derail the thread have concluded that yes there is a predominant homosexual nature to those who are pedophiles. Would this non-exclusivity possibly explain how large the difference is? Hetereosexuality almost has an exclusivity built into it since the end game is usually reproduction.

 

[ryu289]

Exclusivity is not required for pedophila.
When diagnosing Pedophilic Disorder you choose these specifiers if required:
Specify whether: Exclusive type. Nonexclusive type
Specify if: Sexually attracted to males. Sexually attracted to females. Sexually attracted to both
Specify if: Limited to incest

Please give a citation:

In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often applied to any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse.[1][2][7] This use conflates the sexual attraction to prepubescent children with the act of child sexual abuse and fails to distinguish between attraction to prepubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent minors.[8][9] Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided, because although some people who commit child sexual abuse are pedophiles,[7][10] child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles unless they have a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children,[8][11][12] and some pedophiles do not molest children.[13]

The term pedophile is commonly used by the public to describe all child sexual abuse offenders.[8][12] This usage is considered problematic by researchers, because many child molesters do not have a strong sexual interest in prepubescent children, and are consequently not pedophiles.[11][12][25] There are motives for child sexual abuse that are unrelated to pedophilia,[81] such as stress, marital problems, the unavailability of an adult partner,[102] general anti-social tendencies, high sex drive or alcohol use.[103] As child sexual abuse is not automatically an indicator that its perpetrator is a pedophile, offenders can be separated into two types: pedophilic and non-pedophilic[104] (or preferential and situational)

Some pedophiles do not molest children.[2] Little is known about this population because most studies of pedophilia use criminal or clinical samples, which may not be representative of pedophiles in general.[109] Researcher Michael Seto suggests that pedophiles who commit child sexual abuse do so because of other anti-social traits in addition to their sexual attraction. He states that pedophiles who are "reflective, sensitive to the feelings of others, averse to risk, abstain from alcohol or drug use, and endorse attitudes and beliefs supportive of norms and the laws" may be unlikely to abuse children.[25] A 2015 study indicates that pedophiles who molested children are neurologically distinct from non-offending pedophiles. The pedophilic molesters had neurological deficits suggestive of disruptions in inhibitory regions of the brain, while non-offending pedophiles had no such deficits.[110]

Though reading this makes you wonder since those of us not attempting to derail the thread have concluded that yes there is a predominant homosexual nature to those who are pedophiles

You are conflating adult homosexuality with homosexual pedophilia. As I already explained:
The sex of the victims of paedophilic molestation does not necessarily indicate whether the perpetrator possesses a heterosexual or a homosexual teleiophilic sexual orientation or even if they possess one at all. Attraction to a person is typically filtered through the requirement for physical attraction; children have a fundamentally different appearance from adults, particularly as secondary sex characteristics, which distinguish the two sexes, only develop post-pubescently. If this were not the case, we would not be able to distinguish between appearance, height and age.

If same sex podophilic attraction is typically based around the child's age, rather than the child's gender, as described above, then we might expect to see molesters who target both male and female children tending to target younger, less physically developed, victims than molesters who target only one gender:

Carlstedt et al. 2009, Sexual Abuse, 21(4), 442-454 "Offenders with 0- to 5-year-old victims significantly more often abused both boys and girls."
Levenson et al. 2008, Sexual Abuse, 20(1), 43-60: "The proportion of offenders with victims of both genders significantly increased as the victims' ages decreased, and sex offenders with preschool-age victims were most likely to have abused both boys and girls. A sex offender with a victim 6 years of age or younger had more than 3 times the odds of having perpetrated sex crimes against both genders than a sex offender with only older victims. Sex offenders with victims of both genders had more than 3 times the odds of having preschool victims."
Lang et al. 1988, Annals of sex research volume 1, 467–484 The results indicated that the majority of child victims (67%) were Tanner stage 1's, the least sexually mature. Of special import, it is the smaller, lighter, and least sexually mature children who appear to hold the most attraction for the sexual abuse perpetrator.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

You are playing with words here. Having a tf fetish isn't the same as pedophilia, so please stop trying to conflate the issue.

Ah no:

It's not about sexual behavior. In fact:


I mean if you are a straight man then do you have a fetish for doing things with women?

Again it was also a mtf werewolf tf, which I was only there for.

That's more of a kink. Try again.

Then by that logic I don't have an attraction to children.

Not because they are a minor. I mean by your definition I should be getting off on that right?

You didn't answer my question, if the fetish is not sexual, then what kinds of enjoyment do you get from viewing the stuff in the first place. If you can explain that, people won't immediately assume you're a pedo for looking at "fetish" art that contains children.

Also, I can quote things too

In 1981, an article published in American Journal of Psychiatry described paraphilia as "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors generally involving" the following:

Non-human objects
The suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner
Children
Non-consenting persons

The DSM-5 acknowledges that many dozens of paraphilias exist, but only has specific listings for eight that are forensically important and relatively common. These are voyeuristic disorder, exhibitionistic disorder, frotteuristic disorder, sexual masochism disorder, sexual sadism disorder, pedophilic disorder, fetishistic disorder, and transvestic disorder.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia- not just sexual attraction. Its a fetish in the same way voyeurism is a fetish: absolutely degenerate. A paraphilia is a fetish that is detrimental to the person with it and or others.

And no, heterosexually is not a fetish. Neither is homosexuality. Homosexuality used to be considered a paraphilia, until people realised two consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want when they aren't hurting each other.

 

[Spoonomancer]

Not because they are a minor. I mean by your definition I should be getting off on that right?

lol, lmao

You didn't answer my question, if the fetish is not sexual, then what kinds of enjoyment do you get from viewing the stuff in the first place. If you can explain that, people won't immediately assume you're a pedo for looking at "fetish" art that contains children.

Also, I can quote things too





Pedophilia is a paraphilia- not just sexual attraction. Its a fetish in the same way voyeurism is a fetish: absolutely degenerate. A paraphilia is a fetish that is detrimental to the person with it and or others.

And no, heterosexually is not a fetish. Neither is homosexuality. Homosexuality used to be considered a paraphilia, until people realised two consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want when they aren't hurting each other.

we full on know that Ryu isn't going to answer your question because he doesn't have a clever refute from an article or Zinnia Jones