CN B.C. naturopath claims college can't stop him from selling fecal transplants to treat autistic kids - Presented Without Comment


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A Fraser Valley naturopath has filed a legal action against his professional regulator, alleging it doesn't have the power to stop him from producing fecal transplants in his B.C. lab to administer to autistic children in Mexico.

Last month, the College of Naturopathic Physicians of B.C. ordered Jason Klop to stop producing pills or enemas made from human feces, saying it was necessary to take "extraordinary action" to protect the public while an investigation is underway.

In response, Klop has filed a petition in B.C. Supreme Court asking for a judge to step in and quash the college's action. That document includes allegations that the college has overstepped its powers by setting guidelines outside its jurisdiction to regulate the practice of naturopathy.

The college, it says, "has no mandate to purport to protect patients who are receiving treatment in Mexico or any other place outside British Columbia or otherwise restrict the treatment choices of patients outside British Columbia."

As for the regulation of fecal transplant products, Klop argues that's the domain of Health Canada.

None of the allegations in the petition have been proven in court and the college has yet to file a response. Asked for comment, college registrar Carina Herman said the college has received the petition and will file its response "in due course."

As first reported in January 2020, Klop has been charging parents about $15,000 US for autistic children as young as two years old to have fecal microbiota transplants (FMT) at a clinic in the oceanside Mexican city of Rosarito.

FMT treatments involve taking bacteria and other microbes from the poop of a healthy person and transferring them to a patient either anally or orally, with the goal of restoring a normal environment inside the gut.


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An illustration shows how fecal microbiota transplants are produced. (Vancouver Island Health Authority)
The process isn't legal in either Canada or the United States for anything other than treatment of recurrent C. difficile infection that hasn't responded to other therapies.

Doctors and scientists have warned that any other use of this emerging therapy is experimental and carries serious risk of infection, while autistic advocates have denounced Klop's procedure as an unproven treatment that puts vulnerable children in danger.

Klop claims he is 'compliant with federal laws'​

The college said it stepped in to prohibit Klop from making, advertising or selling FMT products in response to a complaint from a former employee, who alleged he manufactured these products in a "household lab" in B.C. without standard procedures or quality control.

According to an Aug. 19 decision from the college's inquiry committee, the unidentified whistleblower provided shipping labels and invoices showing that Klop had exported his pills and enemas to Denmark, Edmonton and across the U.S.

Though Klop has defended the health and safety measures in his lab, the college said the more pressing concern is that he is clearly producing and selling FMT for purposes that are not allowed in Canada, which puts the public at risk.

In his petition to the court, Klop writes that the former employee's concerns were centred on his old lab in Abbotsford, which is no longer in use, and he is now working out of a new lab in Chilliwack.

He argues that he "has always been compliant with federal laws" and that he consults with Health Canada to make sure he is following the rules.

"Donors are regularly tested in accordance with standard operating procedures in line with best industry practice and Health Canada guidance documents," the petition reads.


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Health Canada has initiated at least two investigations into Klop's operation.

Last year, the federal body banned him from accepting Canadian patients at his Mexican retreats, and according to the college, it also opened an investigation into the former employee's complaint.

Klop's petition maintains that federal agents have inspected his new lab and spoken to him about best practices, and says Health Canada informed him on July 27 that it will not be taking further action against him.

CBC News has reached out to Health Canada for comment on that assertion.

Klop has previously argued that "lives are at stake" if he were to stop what he's doing and described his work as a "life-saving measure."

The latest iteration of his business, Novel Biome, was incorporated in B.C. last year, using an address in an office complex in Chilliwack. In a promotional video posted on the website in January, Klop says he believes that "precision manipulation of the gut microbiome will solve every single chronic disease."

In response to CBC's reporting on Klop's business last year, the B.C. Naturopathic Association, a volunteer professional organization, voted to suspend Klop's membership.
 
Fecal transplantation is actually highly effective in treatment of C. diff infections. Antibiotics tend to make it worse and cause recurrence. Fecal transplant can cure it permanently.
Yes, but, so far, this is the only thing they have been proven to be useful for, and people have actually died from FMT's. Pathological microbes, including e.Coli that were below the level detectable in a laboratory started multiplying out of control in the transplant recipients and ended up killing them. It has happened a few times now.

A whole range of alternative medicine, from homeopathy to psychotherapy.
It's strictly alternative medicine, homepathy, herbalism, traditional Chinese medicine, Ayurveda, crystal therapy, reiki, etc... essentially complete bullshit, with very, very few exceptions for very specific supplements. Psychotherapy is just regular medicine, and is not covered under alternative medicine.

Homeotherapy to psychopathy.
This essentially hits the nail on the head. Alternative medicine is nothing but a grift, mostly by dumb, middle-aged white women.

It's a big agricultural area, both crop and dairy.
That's a horrifying thought, that this quack isn't even using human material for the FTMs...
 
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This is morbidly humorous, I say keep letting him do it. He gets bonus points if his shit actually works, which based on some of the other comments here it might.
 
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It needs fine tuning but it should work, one of the issues being things like a nasty strain of E.coli that @Jesus H Christ mentions being the major obstacle. Ideally you'd be able to harvest a core group of beneficial bacteria and gut flora that won't kill a person with little to none.
Yeah. I think pure gut bacteria where exact stains are known probably in pill form will be standard medication eventually. It really could help with stomach issues with antibiotics and maybe with stomach pain issues too. We can already farm bacteria fairly easily so it will be most likely about finding witch bacteria we want and how to control their mutations and/or how to harvest beneficial ones from donors without nasty ones.
 
There may be evidence that gut biome has an impact on autism symptoms among other things. Fecal transplannts are a way introduce known good microflora into a person's digestive system. The probiotic below is at the forefront of commercially available formulations in terms of results.

 
Can't you introduce good microflora into a person's digestive system without having to manually insert a foreign turd?
 
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Can't you introduce good microflora into a person's digestive system without having to manually insert a foreign turd?
iirc they used closely related persons living in the same household for people with C.difficile but they wouldn't take otherwise
 
The studies don't show direction of causality; it's just as likely that being autistic causes imbalance of the biome, as it is that the biome exacerbates autism.

Autistics often do not wash hands, scratch their asses, pick at themselves, eat dirt, and assorted other nasties. All of these activities can cause digestive problems related to the intestinal flora and these behaviors were not eliminated in the study.
 
The studies don't show direction of causality; it's just as likely that being autistic causes imbalance of the biome, as it is that the biome exacerbates autism.

Autistics often do not wash hands, scratch their asses, pick at themselves, eat dirt, and assorted other nasties. All of these activities can cause digestive problems related to the intestinal flora and these behaviors were not eliminated in the study.
Plus the diet of the modern autist is abdolutely abysmal. Stop letting them live off of fast and junk food and their biome recover on its own.
 
You know this guy is using his own poop. For sure. Bet money. He's getting some Mexicans to shove his own poop up autistic kid's butts.
Looks like it was from his nephew and freeze dried in his basement "lab."



Investigation widens into B.C. naturopath's fecal transplants for autism, court documents show​

An investigation into a naturopath who claims he can treat autism using pills and enemas made from feces has expanded significantly, according to new documents filed in B.C. Supreme Court.

Jason Klop claims in a petition filed last week that he's the subject of a "spurious inquisition" by the College of Naturopathic Physicians of B.C. He's calling for a judge to step in and stop the investigation into his exports of fecal microbiota transplants (FMT), including the college's demands for his financial records.

Klop, who was already the subject of an investigation stemming from a health and safety complaint filed by a former employee, says the college informed him in October that its investigation has expanded to include "seven separate new concerns" about his business.


Investigators have also allegedly asked him for financial records from his company, Novel Biome, which advertises FMT "retreats" for autistic children and their families in Mexico, Australia and Hungary.

Klop is asking for an order quashing the college's investigation, alleging it is based on "unscientific prejudice" against FMT. He claims the college does not have the jurisdiction to regulate his business and that there is no risk to the public.

The college has yet to file a response, and representatives have yet to respond to requests for comment.

As first reported in January 2020, Klop has been charging parents about $15,000 US for autistic children as young as two years old to have FMT, mainly at a clinic in the Mexican oceanside city of Rosarito.

FMT treatments involve taking bacteria and other microbes from the poop of a healthy person and transferring them to a patient either anally or orally, with the goal of restoring a normal environment inside the gut.

Right now, FMT is only approved in Canada and the U.S. for treatment of recurrent C. difficile infection that hasn't responded to other therapies.

Doctors and scientists have warned that at the moment, any other use of this emerging therapy is experimental and carries serious risk of infection, while autistic advocates have denounced Klop's procedure as an unproven treatment that puts vulnerable children in danger.

Research is currently underway into a broad range of other possible applications for FMT, but a systematic review published earlier this year covering research on its use with autism found the evidence of any benefit is "limited and inconclusive."

Transplants allegedly produced from nephews' feces​

This is Klop's second legal action against the college.

He has filed a separate petition objecting to limits that were placed on his practice in August, when the college ordered him to stop producing, selling and marketing FMT. The regulator posted a public notice saying it was necessary to take "extraordinary action" while the probe is underway "due to the seriousness of the alleged conduct and a real risk of harm to the public."

According to a response filed by the college in that matter, its original investigation began with a former employee of Klop's business who reached out in April using the pseudonym "Molly Rylene."

The would-be whistleblower "alleged the stool donors for the FMT materials being produced at the petitioner's [Klop's] laboratory were the petitioner's nephews who 'bring their stool down to the basement and someone down there freeze dries it and makes it into capsules,'" the college's response says.

The ex-employee alleged that Klop's "household lab" had no quality assurance or control measures.

Klop has said he no longer produces FMT products in that Abbotsford location and is now working out of a lab in Chilliwack, where he claims to be in compliance with all federal laws.

In his latest petition, Klop claims that his FMT business is "off duty" conduct and doesn't meet the definition of naturopathic practice in B.C., therefore the college has no authority to demand his financial records.

He also claims that because he is administering these transplants outside of Canada, and because the use of FMT is regulated by Health Canada, the college has no authority to investigate him.

At the same time, Klop seems to suggest that naturopathy is supposed to operate outside conventional scientific methods.

"Naturopaths, by their nature, practise an alternative branch of medicine that employs an array of principles, precepts, practices and treatments, the efficacy and safety of which are not always demonstrated to the strict formal standards of the medical or pharmaceutical sciences," the petition reads.

In Canada, however, Health Canada says FMT meets the definition of a drug and is regulated as such, which means it requires a risk-benefit assessment through traditional clinical trials.

The federal body is also investigating Klop's business, and has already made him agree not to accept Canadian children on his "retreats."

None of the allegations in either of Klop's petitions or the college's response have been proven in court.

 
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