Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Lorne Armstrong]

I do notsee the connection.

Of course you don’t. You’ve obviously never visited Cornville, ME, USA.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

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UK carbon dioxide shortage could force farmers to cull pigs

Soaring energy prices slow production of gas used to stun animals before slaughter in abattoirs

www.theguardian.com

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UK gas crisis could force farmers to slaughter hundreds of thousands of pigs

British farms could be forced into a mass pig cull as supplies of CO2 gas used to humanely kill the livestock run short as a side effect of the gas price hike crisis

www.mirror.co.uk

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‘Really dark day’ for pig farmers faced with gas shortages

Farms across the UK are “facing a really dark day” as gas shortages could mean pigs being culled because there is not enough CO2 at abattoirs, according to one farm manager.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

Wew lad.

Woah, there's literally a shortage of CO2, as in people want more of it than is available?

I saw the mention of it earlier and thought the idea of producing CO2 was weird with all the REEing over greenhouse gasses, how would shutdowns make the problem worse instead of better? I assumed it was some weird industry lingo shorthand for they do some carbon fixation that generates carbon credits and those were what the shortage was of.

I get that this is CO2 in a specific useful form but I'm still surprised that the statement that there is a CO2 shortage is as straightforward as it sounds.

E: typos

 

[Hippopatumus]

Only leftist governance could lead to a CO2 shortage.

 

[George Lucas]

Woah, there's literally a shortage of CO2, as in people want more if it than is available?

I saw the mention of it earlier and thought the idea of producing CO2 was weird with all the REEing over greenhouse gasses, how would shutdowns make the problem worse instead of better? I assumed it was some weird industry lingo shorthand for they do some carbon fixation that generates carbon credits and those were what the shortage was of.

I get that this is CO2 in a specific useful form but I'm still surprised that the statement that there is a CO2 storage is as straightforward as it sounds.

There must be some bullshit bureaucratic process for dealing CO2 because it’s probably the easiest gas to produce, ship, and store long-term.

 

[Sped Xing]

Of course you don’t. You’ve obviously never visited Cornville, ME, USA.

I never got past York

And I no longer understand the jokes.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I never got past York

And I no longer understand the jokes.

nobody's ever said anything to you about the internet? about all the wierdos on it and what happens on it

 

[Lemmingwise]

Woah, there's literally a shortage of CO2, as in people want more if it than is available?

I saw the mention of it earlier and thought the idea of producing CO2 was weird with all the REEing over greenhouse gasses, how would shutdowns make the problem worse instead of better? I assumed it was some weird industry lingo shorthand for they do some carbon fixation that generates carbon credits and those were what the shortage was of.

I get that this is CO2 in a specific useful form but I'm still surprised that the statement that there is a CO2 storage is as straightforward as it sounds.

Reminder that you're reading a news article written by a glorified blogger (journalist). When you read about a topic you know about, you know how many things they get wrong per article.

You want to know the real deal, talk to a pig farmer.

 

[Sped Xing]

nobody's ever said anything to you about the internet? about all the wierdos on it and what happens on it

No. Do you need my Driver's License?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Woah, there's literally a shortage of CO2, as in people want more if it than is available?

I saw the mention of it earlier and thought the idea of producing CO2 was weird with all the REEing over greenhouse gasses, how would shutdowns make the problem worse instead of better? I assumed it was some weird industry lingo shorthand for they do some carbon fixation that generates carbon credits and those were what the shortage was of.

I get that this is CO2 in a specific useful form but I'm still surprised that the statement that there is a CO2 storage is as straightforward as it sounds.

In this case it's produced as a by-product of fertiliser production. The process uses natural gas, the price of which has skyrocketed in recent weeks, to the point that it was no longer profitable to make their primary product. The knock-on effect is that they're also not producing CO2. Infrastructure issues haven't helped matters either.

For the record, C)2 is ridiculously difficult to collect from the atmosphere. At about 400 parts per million, you'd need to process a million kilograms of air to capture 400kg of CO2, which is so stupidly inefficient that anyone proposing it should be pilloried and then thrown into a volcano.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

No. Do you need my Driver's License?

don't tell me your last name........don't EVER tell anybody from the internet your last name ok?

because there are some real weirdos on here some times and they might try to go looking for you

so don't ever tell them your last name, your address, your phone number, the town you live in or the school you go to

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Rate me Late, but isn't what's happening just the 1973 oil crisis - electric boogaloo?

ie, the USA being entirely dependent on outside export of material and going to eat shit for it the moment that the cost rises up?

 

[Sped Xing]

I don't tell anybody about the school I go to. They'd say "what are you doing in a school?" I don't need such stressfuk questions.

 

[Billy Beer]

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UK carbon dioxide shortage could force farmers to cull pigs

Soaring energy prices slow production of gas used to stun animals before slaughter in abattoirs

www.theguardian.com

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UK gas crisis could force farmers to slaughter hundreds of thousands of pigs

British farms could be forced into a mass pig cull as supplies of CO2 gas used to humanely kill the livestock run short as a side effect of the gas price hike crisis

www.mirror.co.uk

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‘Really dark day’ for pig farmers faced with gas shortages

Farms across the UK are “facing a really dark day” as gas shortages could mean pigs being culled because there is not enough CO2 at abattoirs, according to one farm manager.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

Wew lad.

The reason this is aimed at pigs, is because if shit hits the fan, we can legally, though not humanely, slaughter cows and sheep using Halal methods. But because Muslims don't eat Pork, there is no Halal method of killing pigs.

 

[Billy Beer]

Only leftist governance could lead to a CO2 shortage.

The conservatives are in power...

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

I haven't seen any major shortages, but Australia Post is running weeks behind schedule. I live in regional Victoria, and we've been waiting 3 1/2 weeks for a delivery from metro Melbourne.
Thankfully it's not anything we need urgently, but if this is a sign of things to come, it's going to be an interesting end to the year.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Am I the only person who hopes that this series of shortages makes people readress relying on importing everything? or relying on long supply chains in general?

Until about 1950 most food people ate in the UK travelled on average no more than a 100 miles and often far less than 30, people have gotten used to seriously absurd diets in the last 50 years to the point a good portion of there food is fresh out of season because it was packed frozen loaded onto a plane and flown thousands of miles around the world, I mean think about what you have eaten today and think about how many miles that's travelled the mayo on your sandwich if your in the UK was likely blended in the Netherlands, but the egg's are from Germany and the Oil was pressed in denmark from Polish grain and the mustard was likely grown in either the UK or Italy, then shipped to a bottling plant in the UK then shipped to a distribution warehouse then to the super market or wholesaler, the shop it's self and then finally on to you.

And it suits the company to rely on such weirdly long supply chains because is saves them a few pennies per bottle, the problem is if there is a disruption for more than a few hours it really ends up biting them in the arse, for a lot of things not just food it would be better for People, Communities and the Enviroment as a whole to stop doing that and going back to growing and manufacturing locally, and in the case of food stop having wierdly complex diets where at least 1 or 2 major ingreedents have come from another continent as a diatry staple.

 

[Jimbobaggins]

I think this is pretty good video explaining why this happening. Basically greedy companies found out its cheaper to not store items in warehouses and switched to just in time production.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I saw a bunch of people panic buying fuel earlier today. Idiots kept blocking the roundabout outside Asda and making merry hell for everyone who just wanted to get home.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

Am I the only person who hopes that this series of shortages makes people readress relying on importing everything? or relying on long supply chains in general?

Until about 1950 most food people ate in the UK travelled on average no more than a 100 miles and often far less than 30, people have gotten used to seriously absurd diets in the last 50 years to the point a good portion of there food is fresh out of season because it was packed frozen loaded onto a plane and flown thousands of miles around the world, I mean think about what you have eaten today and think about how many miles that's travelled the mayo on your sandwich if your in the UK was likely blended in the Netherlands, but the egg's are from Germany and the Oil was pressed in denmark from Polish grain and the mustard was likely grown in either the UK or Italy, then shipped to a bottling plant in the UK then shipped to a distribution warehouse then to the super market or wholesaler, the shop it's self and then finally on to you.

And it suits the company to rely on such weirdly long supply chains because is saves them a few pennies per bottle, the problem is if there is a disruption for more than a few hours it really ends up biting them in the arse, for a lot of things not just food it would be better for People, Communities and the Enviroment as a whole to stop doing that and going back to growing and manufacturing locally, and in the case of food stop having wierdly complex diets where at least 1 or 2 major ingreedents have come from another continent as a diatry staple.

I buy vegetables and meat direct from the farm, the only things that I get from the supermarkets are manufactured/processed goods. In a total SHTF event, we'd survive, but we'd have to work out alternatives to cleaning products etc.
I have never been happier to not live in a major city, because they are totally reliant on the transport infrastructure.

 

[Quixotic Man]

I was running out of TP anyway, but I went ahead and did my once every 5 months order early since I predict people are going to act stupid again once they catch on.

The Gatorade shortage is the weirdest thing to me. Feels like it has been a crapshoot for months if places will have any in stock.