Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Getting tard comed]

I'm sorry if you have mentioned that before and I just haven't seen it, but would you mind linking to something that covers these cases? Is there an explanation for why this happened? And if it supposedly failed all animal trials in the past, it seems to be pretty successful with humans for now?

Unfortunately I don't have the links to all the kitty's dying. I'm pretty sure I read it on here:

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But it was months ago and I didn't save it. You could try to find it but it will be referenced on that site long before you find the link. Denniger is a little extra but his informational content is well sourced and accurate in regards to covid and the vaxxs.

As to why it happens, as I understand it(and I'm not a doctor or scientist I just know how to read and am not retarded) it's a combination of your body producing am agent your immune system then attacks once triggered by a mutated strain plus that mutated strain essentially having a highway in your system to go and do whatever it pleases.

Isreal + UK data suggests it doesn't work and the fears of vaccine enchanhanced infections(VEI) which includes antibody dependant enhancement(ADE) were valid as that's what it looks like is happening. Not just because of the higher case count as well as deaths but the Delta variant is less lethal than the original. It shouldn't be killing as many vaccinated people as it is which should make people ask why.

On top of the "working well" part. It works incredibly well for 6 months at supressing symptoms, which is NOT a good thing for reasons already stated. I'm incredibly dubious that the shot does well at preventing severe illness and death since before we had a vaccine the survival rate was 99.7 for ALL demographics and that was with all the gerrymandering of counting people who died with covid as died of covid.

Also, early on we found out most people had natural immunity/resistance to covid before the first shot. So yeah, I don't know how you can measure how effective they are at what they claim to do based on that information. As far as I'm aware nobody has bothered to measure or figure out how effective they are at all, much less including those factors just mentioned.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I have to run, but I'm seeing on Twitter that Scandanavian countries like Norway, Sweden, et cetera are basically lifting ALL restrictions in the next week.

Speaking of Normway Norway now then you mention it.

‘Back to normal everyday life’: Norwegian PM announces end of Covid restrictions

Speaking at a press conference on Friday, Norway’s prime minister, Erna Solberg, stated that the country will reopen the country on Saturday, ending Covid restrictions on businesses and social interactions.

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Speaking at a press conference on Friday, Norway’s prime minister, Erna Solberg, stated that the country will reopen the country on Saturday, ending Covid restrictions on businesses and social interactions.
The decision to remove the strict Covid measures comes 561 days after they were first introduced to reduce the spread of the virus, with Norwegian health authorities also giving the green light for other restrictions, such as those on sports venues and travel to end in the coming weeks.
“Now we are going back to a normal everyday life,” Solberg stated, as she announced that, from 4pm (3pm GMT) on Saturday, the country will “remove most of the infection control measures,” giving “a big thank you” to citizens for complying.
Celebrating the removal of restrictions, Solberg hugged Health Minister Bent Hoie at the press conference, which the two said was acceptable as they are both fully vaccinated.
While measures will be lifted in the next 24 hours, the Norwegian PM urged businesses to not start preparing for customers to return until tomorrow, as the rules are still in place until the “common time” that has been agreed.

 

[Parasaurolophus]

Unfortunately I don't have the links to all the kitty's dying. I'm pretty sure I read it on here:

Market-Ticker-Nad - The Market Ticker

MarketTicker Forums - Discussions About Investing

market-ticker.org

But it was months ago and I didn't save it. You could try to find it but it will be referenced on that site long before you find the link. Denniger is a little extra but his informational content is well sourced and accurate in regards to covid and the vaxxs.

As to why it happens, as I understand it(and I'm not a doctor or scientist I just know how to read and am not retarded) it's a combination of your body producing am agent your immune system then attacks once triggered by a mutated strain plus that mutated strain essentially having a highway in your system to go and do whatever it pleases.

Isreal + UK data suggests it doesn't work and the fears of vaccine enchanhanced infections(VEI) which includes antibody dependant enhancement(ADE) were valid as that's what it looks like is happening. Not just because of the higher case count as well as deaths but the Delta variant is less lethal than the original. It shouldn't be killing as many vaccinated people as it is which should make people ask why.

On top of the "working well" part. It works incredibly well for 6 months at supressing symptoms, which is NOT a good thing for reasons already stated. I'm incredibly dubious that the shot does well at preventing severe illness and death since before we had a vaccine the survival rate was 99.7 for ALL demographics and that was with all the gerrymandering of counting people who died with covid as died of covid.

Also, early on we found out most people had natural immunity/resistance to covid before the first shot. So yeah, I don't know how you can measure how effective they are at what they claim to do based on that information. As far as I'm aware nobody has bothered to measure or figure out how effective they are at all, much less including those factors just mentioned.

Thank you for your explanation and the link, I'll look into it more. One thing I just can't wrap my head around right now is how it's only suppressing symptoms. The way I understood it our current mRNA vaccines just introduce one epitope to the immune system instead of the whole thing like the ones with inactivated or weakened viruses would. But they are still preparing your immune system to recognize the spike protein? Is that not enough? I'm just someone reading up on microbiology and virology and all of that since recently, too, btw. But genuinely curious now.

 

[George Lucas]

Daily reminder Woodrow Wilson had dementia in office and:

1. Created the Federal Income Tax (Social Engineering to keep the poor poor and strip money from the middle class)
2. Created the League of Nations
3. Created the Federal Reserve
4. Joined World War 1

Very few people paid income tax when it was reintroduced. It didn’t start affecting the middle class until later.

The poor have never had to pay income tax.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Thank you for your explanation and the link, I'll look into it more. One thing I just can't wrap my head around right now is how it's only suppressing symptoms. The way I understood it our current mRNA vaccines just introduce one epitope to the immune system instead of the whole thing like the ones with inactivated or weakened viruses would. But they are still preparing your immune system to recognize the spike protein? Is that not enough? I'm just someone reading up on microbiology and virology and all of that since recently, too, btw. But genuinely curious now.

the mRNA doesn't really introduce anything except genetic instructions. Its genetic instructions to make your body produce it...then your body says "WTF" and starts attacking what it just produced.

 

[gran soren]

Seeing how much the white man was funding Wuhan lab coronavirus stuff, CCP is actually right this virus is created by america.

 

[Parasaurolophus]

the mRNA doesn't really introduce anything except genetic instructions. Its genetic instructions to make your body produce it...then your body says "WTF" and starts attacking what it just produced.

Yeah, of course, that is good to mention. It is an indirect introduction. Although, the genetic information is still from the virus. Just cut up to only the spike part.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Yeah, of course, that is good to mention. It is an indirect introduction. Although, the genetic information is still from the virus. Just cut up to only the spike part.

I'm not even sure how it all works but

I'm not optimistic about the outcomes of those who are vaccinated as it killed everyone who ever tried it for anything else. Cancer, Diabetes, Arthritis. Shit kills everyone after 3 years every time they tried. No one is alive today that participated in a clinical trial of mRNA before 2017.


Now you could say it was the cancer or whatever is what killed them but you would think atleast ONE treatment would of been successful somewhere.

That said if all this works with a handful of Adverse issues like the government is swearing, I am all for it so long as it stays voluntary. Time will absolute validate its effectiveness.

But when you have fully vaccinated people wearing masks and getting sick left and right like we do now, whats the point

 

[Parasaurolophus]

I'm not even sure how it all works but

I'm not optimistic about the outcomes of those who are vaccinated as it killed everyone who ever tried it for anything else. Cancer, Diabetes, Arthritis. Shit kills everyone after 3 years every time they tried. No one is alive today that participated in a clinical trial of mRNA before 2017.


Now you could say it was the cancer or whatever is what killed them but you would think atleast ONE treatment would of been successful somewhere.

That said if all this works with a handful of Adverse issues like the government is swearing, I am all for it so long as it stays voluntary. Time will absolute validate its effectiveness.

But when you have fully vaccinated people wearing masks and getting sick left and right like we do now, whats the point

Idk, man. The government and big pharma probably are evil in some way, but if it really was as daringly obvious as that I really doubt it would have been approved. Even if it was so, what then? If everyone would die from it in the next three years who's going to reelect our politicians or trust anything they say ever again?

But I don't think there are many people that malicious out there in the first place. Especially in politics and medicine a good deal of them start out with the intention to do something good for their society. Not saying they won't get twisted, ever, but saying that it'd probably take a lot for such a catastrophe, where most participants just die after three years, to happen. With so much on the line, worldwide, a lot of eyes are carefully watching every development, and most probably don't want to risk an apocalypse. If not for the potential loss of lives, including people dear to them, at least to keep up the infrastructure, probably

Keep your head up. We've made it through much worse times before, this pandemic won't end that streak either. And it won't even stand a chance once we can finally figured out that it works much better when we can see past our political differences and focus on actual scientific debate for once :>

 

[Protistology]

I'm not even sure how it all works but

I'm not optimistic about the outcomes of those who are vaccinated as it killed everyone who ever tried it for anything else. Cancer, Diabetes, Arthritis. Shit kills everyone after 3 years every time they tried. No one is alive today that participated in a clinical trial of mRNA before 2017.


Now you could say it was the cancer or whatever is what killed them but you would think atleast ONE treatment would of been successful somewhere.

That said if all this works with a handful of Adverse issues like the government is swearing, I am all for it so long as it stays voluntary. Time will absolute validate its effectiveness.

But when you have fully vaccinated people wearing masks and getting sick left and right like we do now, whats the point

William Shakespeare, first UK man to get COVID vaccine, dies

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[PS1gamenwatch]

William Shakespeare, first UK man to get COVID vaccine, dies

archived 26 May 2021 06:21:15 UTC

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Alas poor Yorick

 

[Protistology]

Idk, man. The government and big pharma probably are evil in some way, but if it really was as daringly obvious as that I really doubt it would have been approved. Even if it was so, what then? If everyone would die from it in the next three years who's going to reelect our politicians or trust anything they say ever again?

But I don't think there are many people that malicious out there in the first place. Especially in politics and medicine a good deal of them start out with the intention to do something good for their society. Not saying they won't get twisted, ever, but saying that it'd probably take a lot for such a catastrophe, where most participants just die after three years, to happen. With so much on the line, worldwide, a lot of eyes are carefully watching every development, and most probably don't want to risk an apocalypse. If not for the potential loss of lives, including people dear to them, at least to keep up the infrastructure, probably

Keep your head up. We've made it through much worse times before, this pandemic won't end that streak either. And it won't even stand a chance once we can finally figured out that it works much better when we can see past our political differences and focus on actual scientific debate for once :>

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Get ready to be colonized.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/page-2975#post-9956012

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

William Shakespeare, first UK man to get COVID vaccine, dies

archived 26 May 2021 06:21:15 UTC

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He was 81, cut down in his prime, robbed of decades of life by the unvaxxed. Developing and administering the jabs and wrecking our economy was all worth it if a boomer gets to cheat death for a few months. Good riddance, may he be the first of many.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Idk, man. The government and big pharma probably are evil in some way, but if it really was as daringly obvious as that I really doubt it would have been approved. Even if it was so, what then? If everyone would die from it in the next three years who's going to reelect our politicians or trust anything they say ever again?

But I don't think there are many people that malicious out there in the first place. Especially in politics and medicine a good deal of them start out with the intention to do something good for their society. Not saying they won't get twisted, ever, but saying that it'd probably take a lot for such a catastrophe, where most participants just die after three years, to happen. With so much on the line, worldwide, a lot of eyes are carefully watching every development, and most probably don't want to risk an apocalypse. If not for the potential loss of lives, including people dear to them, at least to keep up the infrastructure, probably

1) Has not been approved yet. They are still on EUA which is experimental authorization use. What the FDA approved of was a separate product that Pfizer swears they don't have enough of a supply of so they still are providing the shot that is experimental. Which they have to do otherwise J&J and Moderna's prpduct has to stop being administered legally.

2) You don't need everyone involved to be evil. You don't need anyone involved to be evil. Incompetence is all that's required. Incompetence and hubris. Most doctors today, due to the education system, are memorization robots. The health industry is also owned by the pharmaceuticals/insurance companies so what an individual doctor wants to do doesn't matter if the hospital that employs them says you can't prescribe something that doesn't make money for pharma. Ex. Doctors being threatened if they write a prescription for ivermectin or voicing an opinion that isn't ALL VAXX ALL THE TIME!.

3) Thinking that the "elite" think about the practicalities of life and what happens after they acconplish their possible goals is misguided. They still think and are working on downloading and uploading consciousness to a hard drive to "live" forever. We don't even know what consciousness is. TPTB rule by nominalism. They think if they name something and say it a bunch it is true and it will happen. Afghanistan is the example for the world to see. They aren't and don't think in terms of consequences for their actions as it relates to them. Or it doesn't appear like they do.

 

[Parasaurolophus]

1) Has not been approved yet. They are still on EUA which is experimental authorization use. What the FDA approved of was a separate product that Pfizer swears they don't have enough of a supply of so they still are providing the shot that is experimental. Which they have to do otherwise J&J and Moderna's prpduct has to stop being administered legally.

2) You don't need everyone involved to be evil. You don't need anyone involved to be evil. Incompetence is all that's required. Incompetence and hubris. Most doctors today, due to the education system, are memorization robots. The health industry is also owned by the pharmaceuticals/insurance companies so what an individual doctor wants to do doesn't matter if the hospital that employs them says you can't prescribe something that doesn't make money for pharma. Ex. Doctors being threatened if they write a prescription for ivermectin or voicing an opinion that isn't ALL VAXX ALL THE TIME!.

3) Thinking that the "elite" think about the practicalities of life and what happens after they acconplish their possible goals is misguided. They still think and are working on downloading and uploading consciousness to a hard drive to "live" forever. We don't even know what consciousness is. TPTB rule by nominalism. They think if they name something and say it a bunch it is true and it will happen. Afghanistan is the example for the world to see. They aren't and don't think in terms of consequences for their actions as it relates to them. Or it doesn't appear like they do.

I didn't mean 'approved' in any official context, just generally accepted as sort of 'safe for use'. Honestly, even if there is incompetence and corruption at play, too, I refuse to believe that it'd affect everyone. It is a worldwide pandemic, there are doctors, microbiologists, virologists, epidemiologists etc. all looking into the safety of these vaccines, not only out of interest for their people, but also for their own benefit, it'd be humanity's biggest mistake in recorded history to risk that many lives. Risking health complications? Sure. But not something that amounts to basically an apocalypse.

I tend to think like you, too, usually. But I'm also not a very happy person. And if everyone would think like us the world probably wouldn't be a very happy place, either.

 

[JosephStalin]

Went to the commissary this morning. Still have to wear a mask. Some shortages on the shelves, but saw people busily stocking. NO shortage of canned soda, but have plenty at home. No small containers of ground cinnamon but plenty of big ones, so I got a big one. No liquid heavy whipping cream, but that isn't new. Got a big pack of Rayovac alkaline AA batteries again this week, 36 for $8.42. 15-ounce bag of crunchy Cheetos only $3.19, down from about $3.90. Some prices up, some down.

Went home, did some stuff. We live next to a public pre-school and child development center. Watched some little kids playing outside. Poor kids had to wear masks. Just started cursing to myself, felt like crying, thinking these poor little runts are going to grow up accepting this level of control. The mask I wore to the commissary today said "This mask is USELESS."

No, I don't give a fuck. Just because I have to wear a mask in the commissary doesn't mean that mask can't tell everyone the entire mask thing is fucking bogus.

Jesus, I feel sorry for those little kids. It really eats shit to live in an America that runs scared over every little thing. The America I grew up in didn't. We knew what to take seriously and what not to take seriously. We lived with some measure of common sense and logic. Pretty hard to see any common sense and logic around this America sometimes...

 

[The Nothingness]

I got an email from my healthcare provider touting how the vaccine is better than "natural immunity" (their quotes, not mine). Also this is the same healthcare provider that a Zoom call from a local hospital between doctors and marketing personnel leaked where they talked about inflating the case numbers.

 

[benutz]

Went to the commissary this morning. Still have to wear a mask. Some shortages on the shelves, but saw people busily stocking. NO shortage of canned soda, but have plenty at home. No small containers of ground cinnamon but plenty of big ones, so I got a big one. No liquid heavy whipping cream, but that isn't new. Got a big pack of Rayovac alkaline AA batteries again this week, 36 for $8.42. 15-ounce bag of crunchy Cheetos only $3.19, down from about $3.90. Some prices up, some down.

Went home, did some stuff. We live next to a public pre-school and child development center. Watched some little kids playing outside. Poor kids had to wear masks. Just started cursing to myself, felt like crying, thinking these poor little runts are going to grow up accepting this level of control. The mask I wore to the commissary today said "This mask is USELESS."

No, I don't give a fuck. Just because I have to wear a mask in the commissary doesn't mean that mask can't tell everyone the entire mask thing is fucking bogus.

Jesus, I feel sorry for those little kids. It really eats shit to live in an America that runs scared over every little thing. The America I grew up in didn't. We knew what to take seriously and what not to take seriously. We lived with some measure of common sense and logic. Pretty hard to see any common sense and logic around this America sometimes...

Went to the commissary this morning. Still have to wear a mask. Some shortages on the shelves, but saw people busily stocking. NO shortage of canned soda, but have plenty at home. No small containers of ground cinnamon but plenty of big ones, so I got a big one. No liquid heavy whipping cream, but that isn't new. Got a big pack of Rayovac alkaline AA batteries again this week, 36 for $8.42. 15-ounce bag of crunchy Cheetos only $3.19, down from about $3.90. Some prices up, some down.

Big containers of Cinnamon? The good life!

No heavy whipping cream? This isn't the time or place for any of that, thank you very much!

AA Batteries. What a steal. We get gouged for those here in EU poor land.

Crunchy Cheetos. 15-ounce bag. One of. Sar! Not going to comment except to say "Mmm... Crunchy Cheetos...Mmm...."


Went home, did some stuff. We live next to a public pre-school and child development center. Watched some little kids playing outside. Poor kids had to wear masks. Just started cursing to myself, felt like crying, thinking these poor little runts are going to grow up accepting this level of control. The mask I wore to the commissary today said "This mask is USELESS."

It's always been that way with the learned helplessness instilled in to the lower classes. The more cultured and learned of us have always known the sky is the limit. It's why the runts turn to crime as they really do see it as one of the few ways out. Actually, they don't intellectualise it like that. They don't even think at all. That's the whole point. To rob them of that executive function. The sky is not the limit. But it's a pretty good metric to aim for, for failure. Some will reach lower, and some will reach higher. You don't know until you try. But it's always good to have realistic expectations. It's even better to know you aren't a totally crippled fuck that might achieve something, anything, with your pitiful little life, as long as you can give it a fair shake.


Jesus, I feel sorry for those little kids. It really eats shit to live in an America that runs scared over every little thing. The America I grew up in didn't. We knew what to take seriously and what not to take seriously. We lived with some measure of common sense and logic. Pretty hard to see any common sense and logic around this America sometimes...

The America you and I grew up in does not exist anymore. It hasn't for a while. You know this. Of course. But it wasn't until relatively recently where even old fogies like us had it on official notice. They aren't even pretending any more.

It's all over bar the crying. And the rioting and the looting and the rape and pillage. Will make the Civil wars of the past look like a holiday in the sun with the carnage about to come. Thankfully we won't be alive to see it. Unthankfully, our sons and daughters, and their sons and daughters will. It will be them getting raped and pillaged. Unless they start to stand up for themselves right now, it will be a whole world of hurt not too much longer down the road.

No black pills. No white pills. Just cold hard reality that bites everyone on the nose sooner or later. You can run, but you can't hide...

 

[Sanshain]

On the bright side, had my first dose of horse dewormer two days ago, because yesterday was the first time in three weeks I had to voluntarily expose myself to other people (to visit the vet, ironically). I'm known in my family as an involuntarily hypochondriac, since I have weird reactions to all sorts of things that they don't (paracetamol for pain relief makes me feel immediately drunk, every time, but cold medication containing paracetamol doesn't, as just one nonsensical example), but I have felt zero detectable side-effects from this so far. Only hoping the liquid stuff doesn't lose potency over time in a sealed airtight bag.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

the mRNA doesn't really introduce anything except genetic instructions. Its genetic instructions to make your body produce it...then your body says "WTF" and starts attacking what it just produced.

Which again the potential for anti-cancer and anti-prion treatments is amazing because of this.

Thank you for the link! That's a lot to read through, but from what I could gather so far (from the first article) is that results seem to vary due to species differences and other factors. It'll be interesting how this applies to our current situation.

Definitely.

I doubt we will see adverse reactions to the scale those specific test drugs saw in clinical trials, and honestly if you're fat and old you're probably still better off with the vax; but as someone young and healthy who has already kicked the disease its supposed to "protect" me from, I'd rather not.