Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Thomas Highway]

The majority of people in real life that I’ve met are skeptical of it. I’ve gotten plenty of vaccines, even some obscure ones for third world travel. Why would I get one that’s been pushed through so fast and without the same safety measures as the others? Maybe if I was 80 and obese, but I stand no chance of dying as it stands now.

Cool don't get jabbed. I ain't either. Please tilt at some other windmills.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How am I being contrarian? Isn't it odd those those wonderful experts do whatever the funding them want? Have you heard of the replication crisis?


The experts pushed heinous things before to keep their licenses and make money.

More young adults than expected have reported heart inflammation following Covid-19 vaccination

The condition, called myocarditis, is usually mild, but a handful of patients remain hospitalized.

www.nbcnews.com

Israel reports link between Pfizer 2nd shot and heart problem in males under 30

Myocarditis side effect is extremely rare and in most cases mild; experts say finding unlikely to affect decision on vaccinating 12- to 15-year-olds

www.timesofisrael.com

I'll provide two now, but you need yo tel me what proof you'll accept, and provide evidence 99% of doctors support this.

You said they have "skyrocketed". That isn't skyrocketing, lol.

The rates that the vaccine does it are still far less than from covid itself.

Again, answer my question from before: Do you really believe 99% of doctors and scientists are in on some vast conspiracy? Either you do or you legit think you know more than they do about a vaccine. Which is it?

 

[Khantressa]

You said they have "skyrocketed". That isn't skyrocketing, lol.

The rates that the vaccine does it are still far less than from covid itself.

Again, answer my question from before: Do you really believe 99% of doctors and scientists are in on some vast conspiracy? Either you do or you legit think you know more than they do about a vaccine. Which is it?

The actual scientist I know has always said that funding was political and was the most stressful part of the job. I imagine you’d be likely to give favorable data to the guy stroking your checks if it means keeping the lights on. I know that I would.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

You said they have "skyrocketed". That isn't skyrocketing, lol.

The rates that the vaccine does it are still far less than from covid itself.

Again, answer my question from before: Do you really believe 99% of doctors and scientists are in on some vast conspiracy? Either you do or you legit think you know more than they do about a vaccine. Which is it?

You keep bringing up the same weak appeal to authority that 99% of doctors and scientists are in agreement to somehow justify the efficacy and safety of the covid vaccines. That would be an important figure if, and only if all of the world's doctors and lab scientists were to have no bias or political leanings at all. Obviously that's not true and as we have seen the past year, this covid fiasco is showing just the opposite. Even before covid, practicing doctors are constantly influenced by drug representatives who wine and dine them with free stuff to help sell the company's drugs.

I don't know why you keep repeating the same old points after many others have poked holes in your script. You're starting to sound a lot like resident lolcow Pamela Swain.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

You keep bringing up the same weak appeal to authority that 99% of doctors and scientists are in agreement to somehow justify the efficacy and safety of the covid vaccines.

It's also a number he pulled out his ass.

 

[mr.moon1488]

There actually is no such thing as "Big Pharma". You're conflating those who dedicate their lives to discovering cures with the malevolent profiteers who brought us the opioid crisis.

I really hope this was facetious.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Apparently the J&J shot is the only one to maintain long term efficacy and protects against the Delta varient. Not shocked at all really since it's a dead virus vaccine and not an experimental serum like Moderna and Pfizer.

Opinion: The good news about J&J's Covid-19 vaccine

For the past few months, as the world has been debating boosters, breakthrough infections, and real-world efficacy, there has been one common refrain in questions I'm being asked on Twitter and in person:

www.cnn.com

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

I'm willing to consider getting a "vaccine" down the road, if they make one that actually will keep me from catching the coof and not give me any side effects...some small powerlevelling... I don't get sick. Literally, since my mid 20s (I'm now in my very late 40's) I haven't had anything stronger than the sniffles or a random (usually stress related) headache. I've also been working in professions that require me to be up close with all kinds of people (those glory holes aren't going to stalk themselves after all) so I'm sure I've had plenty of chances to catch whatever crap flus and colds they have. again though, I don't get sick. In an ironic twist, I'm a big, fat, disgusting, gross, morbidly obese, piece of shit, fat tub of guts, super fat fatty. I have been to various degrees almost my whole life. that's why I'd be willing to consider at some possible future date getting a vaccine. I'm not anti vax, I've had all my shots, but I'm waiting this out for now for 2 reasons, and why I also have never had a flu shot...1. I don't get sick. 2. I'd be the unlucky bastard to get any and all side effects from said shot. If they have something down the line that will forever keep me from catching covid, and not have any side effects, I'm in. Until then, I'm out. I may regret that decision, lol.

 

[Nobue]

Look, don't get jabbed. That's fine.

Just please don't go around in meatspace saying this shit. You will be rightfully shunned as a crazy person.

Considering how vaccination rates keep lagging, you're wrong.

You said they have "skyrocketed". That isn't skyrocketing, lol.

The rates that the vaccine does it are still far less than from covid itself.

Again, answer my question from before: Do you really believe 99% of doctors and scientists are in on some vast conspiracy? Either you do or you legit think you know more than they do about a vaccine. Which is it?

Before I give you more proof, tell me how much, from where, and what ever other parameters are necessary to sway you. I'm thinking if I gave you the best proof on earth, you'd deny it.

Assuming it's 99% like you say, they don't have to be in on a conspiracy-- the people above them just have to threaten their licenses. Look how other countries have used ivermectin to treat COVID, but it's a big no-no here. Is every doctor here in on a conspiracy?

Besides, your 99% number (which you've provided no proof of, in spite of others backing their arguments up with it) was also true about experts supporting lockdowns. That was never the case, and even the WHO admitted they were no good right before a certain someone inn a nation that provides 15% of their funding got inaugurated.

Do you think YOU know better than the experts who were right about our COVID response unlike the ones the media praised non-stop?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Before I give you more proof, tell me how much, from where, and what ever other parameters are necessary to sway you. I'm thinking if I gave you the best proof on earth, you'd deny it.

You said they were "skyrocketing". Let's see proof they are "skyrocketing".

Assuming it's 99% like you say, they don't have to be in on a conspiracy-- the people above them just have to threaten their licenses. Look how other countries have used ivermectin to treat COVID, but it's a big no-no here. Is every doctor here in on a conspiracy?

Ivermectin... you mean the one that the only study showing it worked had the numbers entirely made up? I hope it works, but the studies showing it does were pretty flawed

Besides, your 99% number (which you've provided no proof of, in spite of others backing their arguments up with it) was also true about experts supporting lockdowns. That was never the case, and even the WHO admitted they were no good right before a certain someone inn a nation that provides 15% of their funding got inaugurated.

Do you think YOU know better than the experts who were right about our COVID response unlike the ones the media praised non-stop?

Gonna need a citation on these claims, too.

You still didn't answer my question, son. Oh, and another question for you. Why do you want the vaccine to fail? Is it because you hate doctors and scientists?

It's also a number he pulled out his ass.

It's called an approximation, like how you pretend to know how percentages work and think the vaccine is super duper dangerous.

You keep bringing up the same weak appeal to authority that 99% of doctors and scientists are in agreement to somehow justify the efficacy and safety of the covid vaccines. That would be an important figure if, and only if all of the world's doctors and lab scientists were to have no bias or political leanings at all. Obviously that's not true and as we have seen the past year, this covid fiasco is showing just the opposite. Even before covid, practicing doctors are constantly influenced by drug representatives who wine and dine them with free stuff to help sell the company's drugs.

I don't know why you keep repeating the same old points after many others have poked holes in your script. You're starting to sound a lot like resident lolcow Pamela Swain.

Well yeah, if you are claiming something contrary to someone who has devoted their lives to studying a subject, you better have a damn good argument for it other than your boomer uncle told you that it was so. No one on here is more qualified on vaccines than doctors or scientists (well, scientists work on vaccines).

Do you really think doctors in Europe/UK, China, Russia, etc.. are influenced by big pharma in America? Those countries have free and often generic prescriptions. Come on, you can't be this retarded. I know you right-wingers think everything that makes you uncomfortable is a conspiracy, but come on now.

Why do you want the vaccine to fail? Is it because you hate doctors and scientists?

 

[Nobue]

You said they were "skyrocketing". Let's see proof they are "skyrocketing".


Ivermectin... you mean the one that the only study showing it worked had the numbers entirely made up? I hope it works, but the studies showing it does were pretty flawed


Gonna need a citation on these claims, too.

You still didn't answer my question, son. Oh, and another question for you. Why do you want the vaccine to fail? Is it because you hate doctors and scientists?


It's called an approximation, like how you pretend to know how percentages work and think the vaccine is super duper dangerous.


Well yeah, if you are claiming something contrary to someone who has devoted their lives to studying a subject, you better have a damn good argument for it other than your boomer uncle told you that it was so. No one on here is more qualified on vaccines than doctors or scientists (well, scientists work on vaccines).

Do you really think doctors in Europe/UK, China, Russia, etc.. are influenced by big pharma in America? Those countries have free and often generic prescriptions. Come on, you can't be this retarded. I know you right-wingers think everything that makes you uncomfortable is a conspiracy, but come on now.

Why do you want the vaccine to fail? Is it because you hate doctors and scientists?

I'll provide more proof if you show me yours that shows that 99% of medical experts support mass vaccination with the new COVID vaccines. You're just going to deny any proof given and keep moving the goalposts.

 

[Basil Julep]

Apparently the J&J shot is the only one to maintain long term efficacy and protects against the Delta varient. Not shocked at all really since it's a dead virus vaccine and not an experimental serum like Moderna and Pfizer.

It is gene therapy just like the others. It just comes as DNA in an unrelated adenovirus, instead of naked mRNA. It's not like any inactivated vaccines you got as a kid. There was like one other vaccine like it before that was not widely used at all. It's still your body producing spike proteins.

The media was pretty dishonest/inaccurate by referring to it as more traditional.

 

[AnOminous]

It's called an approximation, like how you pretend to know how percentages work and think the vaccine is super duper dangerous.

If it's an exaggeration, it's not much of one. According to the AMA, over 96% of all doctors are fully vaccinated.

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.

www.ama-assn.org

Since presumably there's some small portion who can't for whatever reason, it's pretty apparent they overwhelmingly support vaccination for themselves. I'm sure they're just bribed by an evil conspiracy though.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Contrarianism is based though.

Contrarianism for its' own sake is retarded. See: HHH.

 

[lurk_moar]

I am getting my Pfizer booster shot tomorrow. I am so excited.

 

[DoomsdayElite]

 

[Nobue]

If it's an exaggeration, it's not much of one. According to the AMA, over 96% of all doctors are fully vaccinated.

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.

www.ama-assn.org

Since presumably there's some small portion who can't for whatever reason, it's pretty apparent they overwhelmingly support vaccination for themselves. I'm sure they're just bribed by an evil conspiracy though.

301 people who went and took an online survey proves this? Say, who are the medical "key players" mentioned in the About Us section on that site?

Let's suppose the AMA is correct. You mean people being threatened with their licenses supported what they had to to keep their licenses? We heard the same about their support of lockdowns, too.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

If it's an exaggeration, it's not much of one. According to the AMA, over 96% of all doctors are fully vaccinated.

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.

www.ama-assn.org

Since presumably there's some small portion who can't for whatever reason, it's pretty apparent they overwhelmingly support vaccination for themselves. I'm sure they're just bribed by an evil conspiracy though.

Being fully vaccinated themselves =/= supporting legal policy forcing others to get vaccinated.

Is there a positive correlation? Sure.
But being vaccinated is not the same as wanting to force others to get vaccinated.

Contrarianism for its' own sake is retarded. See: HHH.

If you think believing the media, trusting government, regurgitating overused talking points and unironically wanting to live in a society is "contrarian" then I have a pan-Pacific bridge to sell you.

 

[Mr Bunny]

We heard the same about their support of lockdowns, too.

Unless it's for BLM.

Also I getting some "99% of scientists agree about man-made climate change" vibes, who remembers that poll?

 

[Protistology]

If CDC employees aren't getting vaccinated, why should I?