Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Mr Bunny]

I salute your level headed stance. Just one aspect that I want you to ask about: What about those that can't be vaccinated? The "whoever wants to be protected can get the jab" line of thought is nice and dandy, but what about those that can't, even though they'd like to get jabbed? That and protection against mutations is what makes herd immunity so important after all.

It's something that a lof ot people sort of glance over.

Then you focus on preemptive treatment for them.

Natural immunity contributes to herd immunity and unless you going to push for zero covid you will never stop mutations. It started in a bat, it has animal reservoirs.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

If they can't be jabbed there are lots of medications that seem to help prevent or treat covid quite well.

If there's a problem I have with all of this, is how the governments and Pfizer et al, have told lies in regards to how well the jabs work. saying to 100 vulnerable people that 95 of them will be fine, when in reality it is closer to 50, is very dangerous. Lots of jabbed people are putting themselves in harms way because they believe they will be protected.

I can see where you're coming from, the effectiveness in clinical studies always turns out way better than in reality, since there's a far larger variation, especially in lifestyles and predispositions.

People going "I got jabbed I am now invincible" is just them contributing to thinning out the shallow end of the gene pool.

Then you focus on preemptive treatment for them.

Natural immunity contributes to herd immunity and unless you going to push for zero covid you will never stop mutations. It started in a bat, it has animal reservoirs.

Let's just hope bat-asshole soup is going out of style in Wuhan.
Who am I kidding, most likely an incompetent lab assistant licked a petridish and called in sick next monday before going to a wet market to buy traditional chinese witchcraft medicine or something equally stupid and there is no protection from that.

As for treatment of those that can't be vaccinated, should they then be given priority in treatment over those that could have been vaccinated, but didn't if capacities run low in Hospitals?

 

[Mr Bunny]

Let's just hope bat-asshole soup is going out of style in Wuhan.
Who am I kidding, most likely an incompetent lab assistant licked a petridish and called in sick next monday before going to a wet market to

You're long past that, don't have the article on hand but didn't Denmark have to cull a bunch of ferrets cause they where infected?

As for treatment of those that can't be vaccinated, should they then be given priority in treatment over those that could have been vaccinated, but didn't if capacities run low in Hospitals?

No. We don't give priority to non smokers who have lung cancer over smokers with lung cancer for example, and such talk would further devide society.

Priority is normally given to those who have better odds of survival, those with low survival are merely given an easing of pain while passing on to death.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

You're long past that, don't have the article on hand but didn't Denmark have to cull a bunch of ferrets cause they where infected?

Shit, you're right. Well, transmission to humans should not be a big deal under normal circumstances, though, but in a ferret farm, contact to humans is relatively high and it could mutate unless you get rid of all animals that could be infected.

No. We don't give priority to non smokers who have lung cancer over smokers with lung cancer for example, and such talk would further devide society.

Priority is normally given to those who have better odds of survival, those with low survival are merely given an easing of pain while passing on to death.

Fair enough.

 

[Cilleystring]

lol everyone saying no have fun being blacklisted from all airlines, hotels, can't send your children to public school, all because you're refusing to take a fucking vaccine

You guys are like the people who say mmr gives your kid autism

I know this is an old comment, but this "do what I say or we'll ruin your life" shit is one huge reason why people were and still are skeptical of the vaccine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily anti vax, just anti liberal authoritarianism. So many of you are such smug assholes that you don't even need a mask or vaccine because your noses and mouths are permanently stuck up your own asses getting high on your own farts

Edit: ill accept the hats

 

[Billy Beer]

I can see where you're coming from, the effectiveness in clinical studies always turns out way better than in reality, since there's a far larger variation, especially in lifestyles and predispositions.

People going "I got jabbed I am now invincible" is just them contributing to thinning out the shallow end of the gene pool.

Those who were/are vulnerable should be told to still take precautions, a belts and braces approach.

 

[mr.moon1488]

The same people defaming Nicki Minaj, saying that "young people shouldn't be so influenced by her!" are now the same ones telling kids to listen to a cartoon baby voiced by some faggot.

Don't get me wrong, I wish that pop culture and celebrities didn't hold so much influence on people either way ... But it couldn't be more obvious how disingenuous and hypocritical the left is being over Nicki Minaj right now. Amazing.

Are you literally retarded? Have you lost count of how many extra chromosomes you have? It's literally impossible to defame a mental midget like Nicki Minaj. Did you have a brain tumor for breakfast?

He's not defending her though. He's just pointing out that the same people bitching about her now would have sucked a wet log out her ass if she didn't engage in wrong think.

 

[Nobue]

You're arguing anti-vax talking points, so it's probably safe to say you're an anti-vaxer. You even did argued their conspiracytard points in this post.

Yes, it's a world-wide conspiracy. Fauci spent 35 years working as research, all in a plot to make Jim Bob in Arkansas wear a mask over his mouth. You figured him out.

Fauci shilled AZT because he had a financial interest in it, and assumed no one would care because he was killing homos.

The man's doing the will of the pharma corps that own every health-related agency and politicians in every government in the US. Do you really trust authority figures so blindly?

Tell me; what other vaccines am I against?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Fauci shilled AZT because he had a financial interest in it, and assumed no one would care because he was killing homos.

The man's doing the will of the pharma corps that own every health-related agency and politicians in every government in the US. Do you really trust authority figures so blindly?

Tell me; what other vaccines am I against?

So you're cool with the Pfizer and JJ shot then?

 

[Nobue]

So you're cool with the Pfizer and JJ shot then?

Not at all. Where would you get that from? I didn't even identify a single COVID vaccine in my post.

Or, are you trying to ignore non-COVID vaccines so you can pretend I'm an anti-vaxxer?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Not at all. Where would you get that from? I didn't even identify a single COVID vaccine in my post.

Or, are you trying to ignore non-COVID vaccines so you can pretend I'm an anti-vaxxer?

You are an anti-vaxer. You are parroting the same thing they parrot, even tardraging about "BIG PHARMA" like a good anti-vax shill.

At least own it.

Although it's all moot, because:

 

[Nobue]

You are an anti-vaxer. You are parroting the same thing they parrot, even tardraging about "BIG PHARMA" like a good anti-vax shill.

At least own it.

Although it's all moot, because:
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Dude, the CDC gets 45% of its funding from private sources. Pfizer's even gotten into big trouble for lying about unfavorable results in their studies.

Stop hurling the smear terms you were taught to use at me and name ONE non-COVID vaccine that hasn't lost approval that I'm against.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Dude, the CDC gets 45% of its funding from private sources. Pfizer's even gotten into big trouble for lying about unfavorable results in their studies.]

about the covid vaccine? Gonna need a citation there.

Stop hurling the smear terms you were taught to use at me and name ONE non-COVID vaccine that hasn't lost approval that I'm against.

J&J shot hasn't lost approval. Nor has Pfizer. Nor has Moderna. Nor Merck. In fact, Pfizer got full FDA approval. Sorry that the memes you read from your boomer uncle on Facebook aren't accurate

 

[Nobue]

about the covid vaccine? Gonna need a citation there.

J&J shot hasn't lost approval. Nor has Pfizer. Nor has Moderna. Nor Merck. In fact, Pfizer got full FDA approval. Sorry that the memes you read from your boomer uncle on Facebook aren't accurate

Look at what I wrote. Did you notice the NON prefix?

 

[GumballFapper]

I will not take any action to stop covid because I like it when americans die. 600,000 more dead Americans Inshallah

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Certain types of people are just going to have to get used to the fact that Covid Zero is simply not possible.

Covid is becoming another endemic disease that will join the yearly flu cycle going forwards. Its just not feasible at this time to eliminate Covid-19 entirely. Its here to stay and we as a society need to adjust to this.

I'd honestly rather see all this money that is being spent on enforcing pointless lock downs, curfews and all the fun new big daddy government overreaching put into expanding health services and hospitals.

Right now up here in the hell hole that is Canukistan all the MSM goes on and on and on and on and on about ICU units. This is why everyone has to get the jab(s) because we're flooding out the ICU's and non-Covid patients are dying because Covid patients are sucking up all the ICU units so anyone who hasn't been jabbed multiple times is literally killing Grandma.

And of course now that a significant part of our population has at least 1 jab and we're going through yet another CoVid wave (is this the 4th 5th or 6th? I lost track) now you need to get your booster jab and show your papers to go out and eat or watch a movie. Oh my god do you want to kill Grandma you Anit-Vax non-person! Those who won't obey the new vaccine dictates are literately Hitler. Show your papers Citizen!

Is there a solution to this issue that doesn't involve the government taking over completely? Or was TheNewNormal right after all?

I dunno...I have the feeling that this will not be over by 2022 like predicted no matter how many people get the quintuple jab.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Look at what I wrote. Did you notice the NON prefix?

Right, but the covid vaccines I listed didn't lose their approval. I know you're an anti-vax spaz and thus suck at science, but you do know not all covid vaccines are the same, right?

 

[Nobue]

Right, but the covid vaccines I listed didn't lose their approval. I know you're an anti-vax spaz and thus suck at science, but you do know not all covid vaccines are the same, right?

You're still being tricky. I'm not sure why you would think I think all the vaccines are the same--unless you're pretending to find a way to pretend you're owning me. Are you being paid to shill the Jab, or are you actually doing it for free?

Name me ONE vaccine from before late 2020 that I am opposed to. Do not include ones that have been removed from the market.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You're still being tricky. I'm not sure why you would think I think all the vaccines are the same--unless you're pretending to find a way to pretend you're owning me. Are you being paid to shill the Jab, or are you actually doing it for free?

You said that since the one vaccine wasn't good, they were all bad. Thus you're implying they're all the same.

Name me ONE vaccine from before late 2020 that I am opposed to. Do not include ones that have been removed from the market.

You're making the same arguments as anti-vaxers, even with your tardraging about BIG PHARMA. You're an anti-vaxer, dude.

Billions of people have taken the vaccine. It's safe. Way safer than covid is.

Let me ask you this... what makes you more qualified on this subject than 99% of doctors and scientists world-wide? What do you know that they don't?

 

[Nobue]

You said that since the one vaccine wasn't good, they were all bad. Thus you're implying they're all the same.

You're making the same arguments as anti-vaxers, even with your tardraging about BIG PHARMA. You're an anti-vaxer, dude.

Billions of people have taken the vaccine. It's safe. Way safer than covid is.

Let me ask you this... what makes you more qualified on this subject than 99% of doctors and scientists world-wide? What do you know that they don't?

I said I was doubtful of ALL of them. Show me where I said they were all bad because one was. I don't understand why you're tardraging about the term Big Pharma. These people have enough influence to get away with plenty of ugliness.

I got a tetanus vaccine before I traveled to Europe. I have not changed my opinion on it. Am I an anti-vaxxer for every vaccine except that one?

Millions took thalidomide--that was safe, too! We want to know the long-term effects-- heart attacks and cancer are growing by leaps and bounds since the COVID vaccine came out.

Did you know the wheat industry paid to have grains put as the most important part of the food pyramid? The experts agreed on the settled science because disagreeing too much with paid science can destroy your career and get you publicly smeared.

Did you know the CDC is having trouble getting all their employees vaccinated? Did you know they just approved a booster the FDA refused to approve because it was far too dangerous? Which agency should I trust?