US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[CaesarCzech]

He and I share a belief here, actually. For me, it's rooted in some fairly orthodox religious views I came to later in life. Strong beliefs in the sanctity of life and the necessary requirements to follow that principle even for people I really -want- to think of as less than human.

So sanctity of life with life being something sacred even when its sullied ? okay that makes some sense but his stance on abortion seems like it would be in direct conflict with his principle. Im still confused, thought quite less so.

 

[mold]

I think a full civil war, with large groups of organized or semi-organized men fighting one another, is highly unlikely.

The Troubles, US Version, though? Very likely. If people get annoyed enough to start taking their civil disobedience to the level of violence, we'll make Northern Ireland look like a picnic.

why would you do this shit when you can just move

 

[Blackhole]

why would you do this shit when you can just move

"oops,all the borders are closed,you can't go anywhere,teehee."

 

[Gehenna]

So sanctity of life with life being something sacred even when its sullied ? okay that makes some sense but his stance on abortion seems like it would be in direct conflict with his principle. Im still confused, thought quite less so.

Aye. Not sure about his views on abortion but largely the idea of it does come down to whether you consider a fetus a person or not.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

How many people would've predicted some Austrian dude getting shot would kickstart WW1?

One. Otto Von Bismarck.

 

[Puff]

I can't see civil war happening until the average American genuinely has nothing to lose. Pretty hard to do in a land of plenty where most people just want to live decent lives and be decent to one another, but stranger things have happened.

The rule of thumb is that if 3% are in active rebellion, you've got war. It doesn't take the average, only the margins.

 

[JohnDoe]

He and I share a belief here, actually. For me, it's rooted in some fairly orthodox religious views I came to later in life. Strong beliefs in the sanctity of life and the necessary requirements to follow that principle even for people I really -want- to think of as less than human.

I likewise hold similar positions. I don't believe in torture or inflicting suffering on murderers and pedophiles. If someone needs to be permanently removed from society, it is best to do it quick and clean to prevent yourself from being tempted to do evil. Ultimate and perfect judgement is awaiting them on the other side, anyway.

 

[Billy Beer]

My abortion stance is about suffering. It's more humane to snuff out a bunch of cells rather than a human suffering through life, feeling sadness, dispair and abandonment. That's for a 'normal' healthy child.

 

[murdered meat bag]

I can't see civil war happening until the average American genuinely has nothing to lose. Pretty hard to do in a land of plenty where most people just want to live decent lives and be decent to one another, but stranger things have happened.

Point being, predicting any of this shit is damn-near impossible. I'm sure people saw Fort Sumter coming -- they just couldn't pinpoint exactly when that'd happen.

What I will say is that if civil war isn't in the cards for America, then Balkanization is. Not in administrative terms, but in communities drawing inward while being passively hostile to outsiders. Hearts will harden and the overall friendliness Americans often show towards those not of their kin will evaporate. If you're not connected to your community, then you're frozen out. Shit will get much harder for you in the long run.

In other words, there'll come a time when ordinary towns outside of the major urban cities will become "Sundown towns" in all but name to your average leftist/SJW/troonkin. Those groups will no longer feel safe traveling outside of their urban bubbles. The American Heartland will turn into the Land of Cold Shoulders for these people.


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Seriously, you never know which straw becomes the last straw. History is just strange like that.

I'll believe it when i start seeing my neighbors fly something other than the american flag. Even the immigrants hang an american flag next to their motherland flags. Balkanization is no different than a civil war and nothing going on points to either. You'd need the collapse of both federal and state governments before regular people pick sides in a civil war.

America is unique in that it's 50 countries share a single federalized culture. This isn't true for europe, catalonia/spain, ireland/northern ireland, bosnia-herzigovina/serbia, russia/georgia/urkaine. there is no 3/5ths compromise, mason-dixon line to start rolling a split between states. Even the BLM vs NY vaccine passport isnt enough to split the city.

let's say that plot to kidnap governor gretchen was the real deal, that'd be the closest thing to franz ferdinand's assassination in recent american history. Do you think the 50 governors are going start picking sides in the affair or do you think they're going to rally together against the kidnappers?

you fags have a high school understanding of politics, history and the human condition and it shows.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Aye. Not sure about his views on abortion but largely the idea of it does come down to whether you consider a fetus a person or not.

And the left cannot even decided which it is:

Abortion? Just a clump of cells!

Fetus killed as a result of violent crime? That was a baby!!!

 

[Blackhole]

Aye. Not sure about his views on abortion but largely the idea of it does come down to whether you consider a fetus a person or not.

Depends,what's the race of the baby?

 

[mold]

"oops,all the borders are closed,you can't go anywhere,teehee."

but seriously how would that work? you would be keeping people *in,* not keeping them out. State governments are going to prevent people from *leaving?* And they're going to do this effectively enough to prevent all the people who would otherwise get pissed enough to make car bombs or whatever from moving away to states they prefer?

no, what is going to happen is what has been happening for our entire lives. it's a big sort. everyone who doesn't want to live like a domestic animal moves out of the human tax farms, leaving no resistance.

 

[Getting tard comed]

all you civil war faggots are disconnected from your neighbors. especially true if you and they own tangible property; no one wants a free-for-all where a gang of bandits is going to be able to take your family and house while you're off fighting and scrounging.

any right wing leader is going to be massive grifter, even you, the guy wishing so very hard, isn't putting any skin in the game.

Top Hats for days.

This is incoherent and doesn't address anything I said. Whether the guy would be a grifter or not is immaterial. I think the idea that Boogaloo 2 is impossible to happen incredibly naive and cynical at the same time and is ignoring quite a few important factors that haven't been seen before in history.

But as far as you are concerned..
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[Kuritan Deplorable]

One thing I'd like to touch on - Peaceful divorce won't work. Even if things are signed 100% amicably, the land is divided perfectly fairly, everyone ends up on exactly the side they want to live in with absolutely no negative economic impacts on both the individual and national scale, it wouldn't work, the left would flip shit. The right might be content to live and let live (too much so even in a lot of cases) but both the modern US left and the wider ideology in general abhor diversity of government. Because if the other government succeeds, and they turn their entire country into San Francisco, then it becomes obvious that their policies are failures. But as long as they can force it on everyone, they can try and blame it on other factors.

Once they lose the scapegoat of the right, they're forced to face that they're actually fucking some things up, and their ideology cannot handle flaws. The people would grow restless against the government for not doing socialism right, and the officials in power would turn their focus outward to try and blame it on the seperated america, direct the people to blame them for their own countries failings. Even if they don't see widespread failure, the ideology demands that it export liberty to the workers - They'd see it as their duty on some level to come in and liberate the ignorant conservatives from their self imposed chains, and to hell with them if they wanted to live that way.

Any peaceful divorce would be a guaranteed calm before the inevitable storm, and it would not be pretty once it kicks off. As it stands, the polarization of state governments towards the competing ideologies is far preferable, because there's still room to deescalate, while providing escape locations for the ideologically charged. If you're in Florida and would literally kill for Socialism, its fine that you don't have to, you can still freely move to California. And Cali might even start to deradicalize if the leftist ouroboros comes after the state government realizing "Wait a minute, Texan gun ownership has nothing to do with you fixing our homeless crisis, why haven't you done anything?".

 

[mold]

It occurs to me that maybe the reason people keep bringing up the Troubles is that they get confused about what Ireland was like then. They have Irish heritage and Irish people are English-speaking and so they somehow think Ireland was not a third world poverty stricken absolute shithole until like 5 minutes ago.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

As it stands, the polarization of state governments towards the competing ideologies is far preferable, because there's still room to deescalate, while providing escape locations for the ideologically charged.

Only the right is interested in simple escape. The left still wants to impose their will on states that do not want it, and if they resist, they will use the state apparatus and mass replacement migration to force them.

It occurs to me that maybe the reason people keep bringing up the Troubles is that they get confused about what Ireland was like then. They have Irish heritage and Irish people are English-speaking and so they somehow think Ireland was not a third world poverty stricken absolute shithole until like 5 minutes ago.

The current policies are angling to make the country that way.

 

[Puff]

PLEASE NO ABORTION DEBATE IN THE BIDEN THREAD.
That always turns into a spergfest.

 

[Gehenna]

PLEASE NO ABORTION DEBATE IN THE BIDEN THREAD.
That always turns into a spergfest.

We all just kinda agreed to disagree, acknowledging where we each were and nothing more.

 

[Puff]

We all just kinda agreed to disagree, acknowledging where we each were and nothing more.

That usually doesn't last.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

That's an interesting question.

Scott Adams once pointed out something called the "New CEO Move." It's when a new CEO comes in and immediately does SOMETHING so he can claim he did SOMETHING and it was good and supported by everyone. It's how you solidify support.

So how would a theoretical Biden with his marbles solidify his support after discovering -- lets give him the benefit of the doubt here -- that some overzealous antifa types went rogue and rigged the local elections without permission, causing him to win?

He'd need to immediately turn on his party. Not really, but he'd have to flee to the center -- a time honored DNC tactic, after all. He can't really throw the rogue elements under the bus, although that would be the best method to do so; The left is utterly reliant on stealing elections, it's one of the unspoken things in politics -- so he can't just say "yes there were some oddities and we're investigating."

But what he could do is say "I agree this was a very odd election and we need to investigate and ensure all Americans can vote if they want to, only American votes should count, and the vote counts should be open, accurate, and transparent." Does not accept blame or anything of the sort, and is just vague enough to get moderates and maybe even center-righties on board. Blunts the yes-it-was-rigged side's weapons.

Then he'd do a "New CEO Move." I don't know what that would be. Something that needs to be done, something obvious, something not controversial, but something he can get done and take credit for it. The trick would be that he'd need to do something so milquetoast that even the GOP won't argue against it. Ironically, an actual infrastructure bill would be ideal, but he'd have to keep the DNC's pork out of the damned thing. There will be time to embezzle funds later, after all.

Ideally he would throw the GOP a bone. Acknowledging that they're using a Trump plan would be a way to go, but that would require he break kayfabe and stop pretending Trump is the antichrist. But he could call it "the GOP plan" instead of the Trump plan, as a thought. "This Bipartisan Vaccine effort" or "The Afghanistan withdrawal, negotiated by our esteemed coworkers in the GOP..."

And of course, you need to get rid of the progs in this timeline. So the next time Antifa starts acting up, you nail them into the fucking GROUND. Unleash the FBI on them, tell them to actually arrest them -- not the sons and daughters of the DC and Journalist elites that are in Antifa, of course, nor the actual community organizer leaders, but the useful idiots are no longer useful, so they get to go to jail for the rest of your term. You let your RINO and GOPe puppets play up how Biden's based and redpilled because he's actually beating the shit out of Antifa in the street -- something Trump never did.

In short, he needs to be inoffensive, an effective leader, and toss just enough of a bone to the GOP that they'll begrudgingly think, if not say "well, it was bullshit that he got in, but at least he isn't fucking things up too bad, and we can just vote him out in 2024."

Sadly, he's a fucking potato brained pedophile who is the living avatar of his party's new "you either agree with us lockstep or it's hate speech, reee" mentality. So he literally can't do ANY of that.

I'm not political, so I'm sure there's a shitload wrong with the above. But if I woke up as Joe Biden Jan 20th, 2021 in some sort of wacky scifi comedy, that's the path forward I guess. Retreat to the center. Dial down the national temperature. Toss some red meat to the GOP. Do SOMETHING that I can claim as a victory. And start dealing with the Marxist Domestic Terrorists that the left has been using locally. And I'd keep my eye out for Pelosi, cause I'm 99% sure she wants Biden and Kameltoe dead. (Seriously, that Nuclear Football thing...)

Withdrawing on 9/11 was the Do Something maneuver. Now, what you're recommending is rational overall. The problem for the DNC in particular is generational. Those Antifa people and the Progressives (i.e. Marxists) are their future. They tard-wrangled Sandy Cortez for now, but the Establishment types are decrepit. 5 or 10 years from now, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, they're all gone and now Sandy Cortez is the Speaker of the House. It's also how companies become woke; it's a bottom-up process from college graduates, not top down from the leadership.

Also, political centrists have proven themselves to be an unreliable voting block. The lesson Dems learned from the California recall and Antifastan is that they just have to appeal to their commie base to maintain permanent power. Centrism like to pretend they're the smartest people in the room, but they aren't inspirational or demand action. They actually demand inaction. That gives the Left the opportunities it needs to consolidate power.