US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Spiteful Crow]

Is your town burning effigies of joe biden and tarring biden voters? I'm told that it's just a matter of time before everyone digs giant graves to throw each other in

Yes actually. It's not Republicans doing it though.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It occurs to me that maybe the reason people keep bringing up the Troubles is that they get confused about what Ireland was like then. They have Irish heritage and Irish people are English-speaking and so they somehow think Ireland was not a third world poverty stricken absolute shithole until like 5 minutes ago.

I'll drink to that. I could also rant a lot about plastic paddies, but I'll save that for later when I've had more to drink.

A better comparison is probably France in the 60s. May 68. There was a similar feeling of dissolution and polarisation that culminated in country-wide riots. They almost fell into a civil war, but the effect was mitigated somewhat by the fact that the country had transitioned into the 5th republican system just a decade earlier, which left some leeway for... lets say, a more robust response to the riots. The student population mysteriously shrank by some tens of hundreds that year.

Right now, to this outsider, the US feels like Argentina around the same period, where a highly polarised population fell into a revolutionary war and saw the government overthrown by a series of military juntas. It's never a one-to-one correspondence, of course, but I'd laugh (quietly) if Miley ended up leading a military coup.

Also, if you ever get the chance to compare Buenos Aires and New York city, you absolutely should. You'll soon find yourself wondering which is which. It's a bizarre experience.

 

[UselessIdiot]

Yeah, it’s gonna take an inordinate amount of resource scarcity to get Americans to reach a breaking point. Most people are discontent, but having their material needs met is what ultimately pacifies them. I do think there will come a time where the bread and circuses won’t be enough due to a substantial shortage of bread that no amount of circuses will be able to cover. Whether that happens in 5 years or 25 remains to be seen.

I just hope when the next economic crash occurs, it will be under a Democrat presidency. When the Great Recession hit, it was under Bush, which then led to Obama being elected. Even though Clinton policies from the 90s and Democrats in Congress making it easy for people who were guaranteed to default be given home loans were largely responsible, people elected more Democrats. Income disparity and cost of living only worsened under Obama, and he filled a lot of prime positions with woketards and diversity hires.

I hope it happens under a Democrat president, so maybe people won't vote for more failed leftist, big government politics again.

 

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Mind, at this stage that isn't terribly likely. Ironically, blame Trump for that. The chance he could get back in and the sincere belief in him is what is keeping a -massive- chunk of people off that train. He is single-handedly ensuring their trust in the system stays.

Just think. Sometime in the next 3 years, the Uniparty will do SOMETHING to try and "deal with the Trump problem."

And it will be ham fisted, and stupid, and blatant. But they can't help themselves. The closer it gets to 2024, the more a pounding they take in 2022, they more desperate they're going to be to stop Trump from running. Biden will be a potato. Kamala won't fuck off and let someone else run. There won't be a replacement for either. Pelosi will lose power, and once she does, the Squad et all aren't going to listen to her anymore. And the idea of Trump with a GOP controlled House and Senate -- with a significant MAGA portion to prevent GOPe cucking -- will TERRIFY them. And it should, because if he gets back in, he's going to come for them, and he'll have no, absolutely no, reason to stop.

I imagine they'll think the media will smooth things over for them with whatever they do. Social media will block all discussion about it that's not pro-uniparty. But they still don't get that most of the country, especially the ones they'd need to convince, thinks media and big tech are full of shit, and this will just be more evidence for them that something is fucked.

They're going to do something. They'll demand we all just shut up and let them. And that's when a significant chunk of the people in our country are going to take the blackpill.

I have no idea what happens after that. Remember how complex systems fail: Very slowly, and then all at once.

 

[Vaclav]

the problem is back in the 90s government tyranny was front and center for everyone in the country to see. it was way harder for the average american to disagree with mcveigh then than for the average american to disagree with jan 6th protestors now.

the bread and ciruses and media are doing a much better idea of convincing people society is doing better than ever, where as in the 90s, you turned on a tv and everyone saw the fbi kill children. case in point arizona voter fraud. you have to be on certain websites and read from experts just what happened, and the average american is too busy watching ted laslo. but in the 90s, but back in the 90s that famous tv show would have been interrupted so your local news can show federal agents killing american citizens for the lols, (dude they were pedos/arms dealers/nazis/commies/gangsters/your ex-wife's friends)

I see things as exactly the opposite. For most people the FBI killing kids on TV was a distant matter with no impact on their lives. Trust in government was high so when they said they were just taking out a bunch of crazies people took them for their word and changed the channel to the football game.

Now the government is destroying people's lives over COVID and the vax. The football game has players telling the audience their ethnicity makes them innately evil. There's no escape in entertainment anymore and the bread is getting more expensive. In the 90s government tyranny was a theoretical thing for most people, now we live it every day.

 

[Oxous]

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Avengers Democrats: Civil War continues. Klain seems to think that Manchin and Sinema will break eventually when neither of them have a reason to. They're not the ones who need to get bills passed.

Also, a date to keep your eyes on: October 18. The bill that passed a couple days ago postponed a government shutdown but didn't suspend the debt ceiling. Fitch Ratings is warning that if nothing gets done by that date, they're gonna downgrade the US's credit rating from AAA. The last time this happened was in the early 2010s and it was a fucking media circus because it was absolutely unthinkable to the stock market and the Obama admin that the US wasn't perfect.

 

[LurkTrawl]

we've been seeing the braces being hacked away since the 80's. we're probably further from any civil war than we were when nafta came along and decimated my city's manufacturing jobs. what you're forgetting is that communities have become atomized in the digital age. the people you're hoping will fight the grand revolution are people who believe in America, their version of it, the most. This isn't poland, there's no Polish people with polish culture and a polish religion like christianity.

This is america, full of americans, where american means resident in america. Good luck getting a brigade of american freedom fighters together who're going to want to upend everything for the sake of ... GOP control? i don't know.


you're better off wishing for a world war to get rid of chunk of the population, solidify nationalities and start another 50's economic boom.

You don't have to secede or have a civil war to be ungovernable/uncooperative. States have rights all their own, just ask TX and FL.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

the problem is back in the 90s government tyranny was front and center for everyone in the country to see. it was way harder for the average american to disagree with mcveigh then than for the average american to disagree with jan 6th protestors now.

the bread and ciruses and media are doing a much better idea of convincing people society is doing better than ever, where as in the 90s, you turned on a tv and everyone saw the fbi kill children. case in point arizona voter fraud. you have to be on certain websites and read from experts just what happened, and the average american is too busy watching ted laslo. but in the 90s, but back in the 90s that famous tv show would have been interrupted so your local news can show federal agents killing american citizens for the lols, (dude they were pedos/arms dealers/nazis/commies/gangsters/your ex-wife's friends)

if people were going to revolt, if someone could spark a revolution it would have happened back then, when the fbi was caught on camera and basically everyone saw them for what they were just like the villian in robocop/super mario bros/a hundred other shitty pop culture examples. look at idiots now, imagining they just need to show proof to convince people, motherfucker the proof was shown 24/7 for over a month back in the 90s and no one gave a fuck.

even the upcoming supply chain shortages wont cause any chaos because even though your favorite food and drinks stopped being in stores for months, the lastest MCU flick/louis ck special just premiered so things arent all bad.

Nobody gave a fuck back then for simple reasons.

Nobody was going to jump up and start a revolution because, for the most part, they were just glad to be out from under the Cold War, and there was a LOT of feeling that big wars were over. The government was flailing around, we had a draft dodger in office, jobs were being lost in sweeping numbers, but everyone figured if we all dug in and knuckled down we could get through it.

McVeigh was a lolcow and a fat retard who killed children because we wasn't allowed to wear a White Power shirt.

Nobody was going to spark a revolution, things really weren't that bad.

 

[FlappyBat]

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Avengers Democrats: Civil War continues. Klain seems to think that Manchin and Sinema will break eventually when neither of them have a reason to. They're not the ones who need to get bills passed.

Also, a date to keep your eyes on: October 18. The bill that passed a couple days ago postponed a government shutdown but didn't suspend the debt ceiling. Fitch Ratings is warning that if nothing gets done by that date, they're gonna downgrade the US's credit rating from AAA. The last time this happened was in the early 2010s and it was a fucking media circus because it was absolutely unthinkable to the stock market and the Obama admin that the US wasn't perfect.

Obama was unequivocally the leader of the Democratic party when he was president. Does anyone think that about Biden? Do hardcore Democrats even think that about him?

 

[Corn Flakes]

Obama was unequivocally the leader of the Democratic party when he was president. Does anyone think that about Biden? Do hardcore Democrats even think that about him?

Who's even the leader of the DNC these days? It's clear Pelosi is trying to position herself as the big shot since Biden and Kamala are non-entities, but it's also clear she doesn't have control over her own party.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Who's even the leader of the DNC these days? It's clear Pelosi is trying to position herself as the big shot since Biden and Kamala are non-entities, but it's also clear she doesn't have control over her own party.

Yea but who did Pelosi go to when shit was getting tough?

She knows who her master is

 

[Oxous]

Who's even the leader of the DNC these days? It's clear Pelosi is trying to position herself as the big shot since Biden and Kamala are non-entities, but it's also clear she doesn't have control over her own party.

The DNC's current chair is this guy:

Never heard of him? Me neither. This right here is Jaime Harrison, who only ran for a political position once in his life, and got defeated by Lindsey Graham.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Yea but who did Pelosi go to when shit was getting tough?
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Hey, George came second. Everyone should know by now that she made her first visit to one Mr. Jack Daniels.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I just hope when the next economic crash occurs, it will be under a Democrat presidency. When the Great Recession hit, it was under Bush, which then led to Obama being elected. Even though Clinton policies from the 90s and Democrats in Congress making it easy for people who were guaranteed to default be given home loans were largely responsible, people elected more Democrats. Income disparity and cost of living only worsened under Obama, and he filled a lot of prime positions with woketards and diversity hires.

I hope it happens under a Democrat president, so maybe people won't vote for more failed leftist, big government politics again.

Larry Elder wants a word with you lol.

The closest thing to a crash under a Democrat would be Jimmy Carter that gave us Reagan, and in the long run, he failed to cut it down.

A man with the faith of @Calvin Coolidge is needed to cut this beast down. Though Hoover came after him and fucked it all up hard.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

People's Republic of California.

The Most Holy Venerated Federal Democratic Liberated People's Socialist Republic of Greater California and its Free Territories.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Obama was unequivocally the leader of the Democratic party when he was president. Does anyone think that about Biden? Do hardcore Democrats even think that about him?

It feels like DNC leadership has been a game of hot potato ever since Obama left, except now they don't have a bogey man to unite against.

 

[LurkTrawl]

It feels like DNC leadership has been a game of hot potato ever since Obama left, except now they don't have a bogey man to unite against.

That really is their problem. They've nothing to rally behind when Obama left them with both a fractured party and a fractured base.

Say what you want about the GoP but most of the people who vote red are in one way or another on the same page, generally. Like, as a civic nationalist I agree more with an ethno nationalist than a prog agrees with a lib. As a right-libertarian I agree more with a conservative than a left-libertarian agrees with a communist, etc.

 

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That really is their problem. They've nothing to rally behind when Obama left them with both a fractured party and a fractured base.

Say what you want about the GoP but most of the people who vote red are in one way or another on the same page, generally. Like, as a civic nationalist I agree more with an ethno nationalist than a prog agrees with a lib. As a right-libertarian I agree more with a conservative than a left-libertarian agrees with a communist, etc.

Coming from the bubble we always thought the GOP was three parties pretending to be one party. The Christian Fundies, the Business Sleazeballs, and the Military -- and they all just pretended to like each other so they could fuck over the "real Americans" that lived in SF or NYC. None of us could figure out why the GOP's base -- a bunch of redneck idiots who should be bowing down to the DNC and thanking them for representing the working man like them and the coastal elites for deigning to remember them when they took power -- would ever be interested in capitulating to the GOP.

The prevalent theory was racism, of course. That was the universal answer to why anything went wrong on the left / why the right ever won anything. People disagreed? Racism. Lost a vote? Racism. Someone outed someone as a sex pest? Racism, plus they weren't really a lefty.

Of course, now I think the DNC is made up of the Progshits, the Business Sleaseballs, and the Military, and I can't grok how any one of the three can put up with the other two, so... more things change, more things stay the same.

 

[Oxous]

Nurses in NY particularly seem to be more aware than ever of how powerful they can be if they unite

Hospital workers strike over staffing shortages in upstate New York​

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Nearly 2,000 nurses and other hospital workers at Mercy Hospital in Buffalo, New York, walked off the job on Friday, saying an ongoing staffing crisis is making it impossible to provide patients with adequate care.

Poor working conditions at the hospital are jeopardizing patient safety, a problem worsened by the recent surge in COVID-19 cases fueled by the Delta variant, according to Communications Workers of America, the union representing workers.

"It's our life's mission to give our friends, family and neighbors the care and support they deserve, and walking off the job is now the only option to force Catholic Health to listen," Linda Bain, a registered nurse, said in an emailed statement issued by the CWA.

The frontline workers went on strike after their contract expired on Thursday. Negotiations between the CWA and Catholic Health System are expected to continue throughout the weekend.

Mercy Hospital suspended inpatient nonemergency procedures as well as labor and delivery services on Wednesday in preparation for the walkout.

"It is inconceivable that the union would lead essential health care workers on strike in the midst of an ongoing pandemic," Eddie Bratko, president of Mercy Hospital, said in a statement.

The two sides signaled progress on wage hikes for workers, but not on the union's demands that Catholic Health commit to minimum staffing levels. Catholic Health said its proposal included adding about 230 new positions in nursing, imaging and other areas.

The CWA is looking to reach agreement on six labor contracts covering about 2,500 employees at Mercy Hospital of Buffalo, Kenmore Mercy Hospital and Sisters of Charity Hospital. The previous agreements were set to lapse last year, but both sides agreed to a one-year extension as the pandemic took hold.

In nearby Worcester, Massachusetts, a nearly seven-months long strike over staffing and patient care conditions continues at Saint Vincent Hospital, with more than 500 workers walking picket lines.

While the Massachusetts Nurses Association and Tenet Healthcare — the Dallas-based parent of Saint Vincent — have reached an agreement on staffing, a back-to-work provision is blocking an accord, according to the hospital.

 

[Puff]

Nurses in NY particularly seem to be more aware than ever of how powerful they can be if they unite

Hospital workers strike over staffing shortages in upstate New York​

(article)

Spoiler: Full text of article

Nearly 2,000 nurses and other hospital workers at Mercy Hospital in Buffalo, New York, walked off the job on Friday, saying an ongoing staffing crisis is making it impossible to provide patients with adequate care.

Poor working conditions at the hospital are jeopardizing patient safety, a problem worsened by the recent surge in COVID-19 cases fueled by the Delta variant, according to Communications Workers of America, the union representing workers.

"It's our life's mission to give our friends, family and neighbors the care and support they deserve, and walking off the job is now the only option to force Catholic Health to listen," Linda Bain, a registered nurse, said in an emailed statement issued by the CWA.

The frontline workers went on strike after their contract expired on Thursday. Negotiations between the CWA and Catholic Health System are expected to continue throughout the weekend.

Mercy Hospital suspended inpatient nonemergency procedures as well as labor and delivery services on Wednesday in preparation for the walkout.

"It is inconceivable that the union would lead essential health care workers on strike in the midst of an ongoing pandemic," Eddie Bratko, president of Mercy Hospital, said in a statement.

The two sides signaled progress on wage hikes for workers, but not on the union's demands that Catholic Health commit to minimum staffing levels. Catholic Health said its proposal included adding about 230 new positions in nursing, imaging and other areas.

The CWA is looking to reach agreement on six labor contracts covering about 2,500 employees at Mercy Hospital of Buffalo, Kenmore Mercy Hospital and Sisters of Charity Hospital. The previous agreements were set to lapse last year, but both sides agreed to a one-year extension as the pandemic took hold.

In nearby Worcester, Massachusetts, a nearly seven-months long strike over staffing and patient care conditions continues at Saint Vincent Hospital, with more than 500 workers walking picket lines.

While the Massachusetts Nurses Association and Tenet Healthcare — the Dallas-based parent of Saint Vincent — have reached an agreement on staffing, a back-to-work provision is blocking an accord, according to the hospital.

I love how they never mention the reason for the staffing shortage.