US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[JohnDoe]

We all just kinda agreed to disagree, acknowledging where we each were and nothing more.

It's amazing what rational adults can do, isn't it?

Because if the other government succeeds, and they turn their entire country into San Francisco, then it becomes obvious that their policies are failures. But as long as they can force it on everyone, they can try and blame it on other factors.

This literally the case study that has already been demonstrated with the East and West Germany divide after the war. I think it was @Jet Fuel Johnny who made this long effortpost about it, but essentially it comes down to this. A large, mostly homogeneous population/landmass was divided up, with similar culture, resources, language, and both with massive foreign backers (the EuroAmericas and and USSR). Life under Communism was so miserable that people died in their attempts to escape, and the state could be maintained only through a massive oppressive state security apparatus and the entire government teetered continually on collapse.

Capitalism (and especially globalism) has a lot of problems (which would be kept in check by nationalism) but it isn't as bad as communism. That is why the radicals have to destroy everything first, because their commie bullshit only looks like a reasonable choice when the alternative is a hellscape of flaming garbage.

 

[Gehenna]

Withdrawing on 9/11 was the Do Something maneuver. Now, what you're recommending is rational overall. The problem for the DNC in particular is generational. Those Antifa people and the Progressives (i.e. Marxists) are their future. They tard-wrangled Sandy Cortez for now, but the Establishment types are decrepit. 5 or 10 years from now, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, they're all gone and now Sandy Cortez is the Speaker of the House. It's also how companies become woke; it's a bottom-up process from college graduates, not top down from the leadership.

Also, political centrists have proven themselves to be an unreliable voting block. The lesson Dems learned from the California recall and Antifastan is that they just have to appeal to their commie base to maintain permanent power. Centrism like to pretend they're the smartest people in the room, but they aren't inspirational or demand action. They actually demand inaction. That gives the Left the opportunities it needs to consolidate power.

The rather glaring problem is that appealing to the commies -isn't- enough to maintain power. See Manchin and Sinema for what happens when they alienate the center-left.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Top Hats for days.

This is incoherent and doesn't address anything I said. Whether the guy would be a grifter or not is immaterial. I think the idea that Boogaloo 2 is impossible to happen incredibly naive and cynical at the same time and is ignoring quite a few important factors that haven't been seen before in history.

But as far as you are concerned..
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yeah, a boogalo 2 is going to happen in a country that's already seen the war of northern aggression, the worker's struggle and the great depression over a a few important, albeit unnamed, factors that haven't been seen before in, not just US history, but world history.


This country will slow to a crawl and then a world war will break out before americans turn on each other.

 

[Free the Pedos]

What do y'all think is the most likely route to fragmentation of America? Texit? Cal-exit? The Emirate of Mississippi?

 

[Some Badger]

It’s pretty evident that the Left owes its success to collectivism being baked into its ideology, but it’s evident that it doesn’t completely extend to the soft-socialist neoliberalism you see among the aged establishment. The Democratic Party is a vehicle for younger activist type politicians to advocate for Marxist policies that would be doomed to fail if they were ever implemented, but (to state the obvious) they can’t just create their own party built on pure socialism without splitting the vote.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

What do y'all think is the most likely route to fragmentation of America? Texit? Cal-exit? The Emirate of Mississippi?

"The Emirate of Mississippi" sounds very entertaining.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

I take it that Abbott will not use the Texas State Guard and just let them in.

Abbot only throws up a few roadblocks and police cars for optics purposes but won't do anything substantial enough to stem the flow, he's got gas, oil and beef industry giants that want cheap labor breathing down his neck. Those man camps aren't going to populate themselves. The Texas GOP is anti-mass migration only in the most superficial sense and probably have illegals doing all the yard work on their McMansion compounds.

 

[Puff]

"The Emirate of Mississippi" sounds very entertaining.

United Southern Emirates? The Dixie Free States?
I'm bad at naming and the CSA name has been burned already.
People's Republic of California.

 

[Titos]

My abortion stance is about suffering. It's more humane to snuff out a bunch of cells rather than a human suffering through life, feeling sadness, dispair and abandonment. That's for a 'normal' healthy child.

Not to turn this into a retarded abortion debate but this argument has always struck me as retarded. You don't know the circumstances of that kid or if he'll enjoy life. If you unironically say "life sucks" or "life is suffering" then try out the competition, there's multiple methods to employ their services.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

the blue states/red states or blue counties/red counties should be autonomous with their own laws with no effect on eachother. the federal government should be for defense and foreign affairs only. would solve all our problems.
oh wait, thats how it was in the past until certain people saw too it that state rights were killed and federal power made absolute.

threatened to arrest SCOTUS and created a public/private mass surveillance operation via the pinkertons and also dissolved the state governments of Kentucky and maryland plus denying their citizens the right to free speech, protest and free assembly. also threatened the press with arrest.

was going to pack SCOTUS if congress didn't cuck to him on everything. most exec orders ever in history.

hart-cellar, great society, killed kennedy etc. "ill get those niggers voting for us for 100 years" vietnam. Military industrial complex.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

In the 90s there was much more of a baseline level of social cohesion than now. People had a lot to lose: office jobs, houses, families. Life was predictable and comfortable for most. Only the mentally unstable at the margins of society wanted to disrupt things. Now the disruption is coming from above and everything that holds US society together is being eroded.

the problem is back in the 90s government tyranny was front and center for everyone in the country to see. it was way harder for the average american to disagree with mcveigh then than for the average american to disagree with jan 6th protestors now.

the bread and ciruses and media are doing a much better idea of convincing people society is doing better than ever, where as in the 90s, you turned on a tv and everyone saw the fbi kill children. case in point arizona voter fraud. you have to be on certain websites and read from experts just what happened, and the average american is too busy watching ted laslo. but in the 90s, but back in the 90s that famous tv show would have been interrupted so your local news can show federal agents killing american citizens for the lols, (dude they were pedos/arms dealers/nazis/commies/gangsters/your ex-wife's friends)

if people were going to revolt, if someone could spark a revolution it would have happened back then, when the fbi was caught on camera and basically everyone saw them for what they were just like the villian in robocop/super mario bros/a hundred other shitty pop culture examples. look at idiots now, imagining they just need to show proof to convince people, motherfucker the proof was shown 24/7 for over a month back in the 90s and no one gave a fuck.

even the upcoming supply chain shortages wont cause any chaos because even though your favorite food and drinks stopped being in stores for months, the lastest MCU flick/louis ck special just premiered so things arent all bad.

 

[Spiteful Crow]

There's no way to resist becoming full on Socialist because their entire base is communist. The old blue dogs are rapidly aging out of life and they are being replaced by radical communist activists.

The same exact process is occuring with their voters.

 

[Some Badger]

even the upcoming supply chain shortages wont cause any chaos because even though your favorite food and drinks stopped being in stores for months, the lastest MCU flick/louis ck special just premiered so things arent all bad.

Yeah, it’s gonna take an inordinate amount of resource scarcity to get Americans to reach a breaking point. Most people are discontent, but having their material needs met is what ultimately pacifies them. I do think there will come a time where the bread and circuses won’t be enough due to a substantial shortage of bread that no amount of circuses will be able to cover. Whether that happens in 5 years or 25 remains to be seen.

 

[Game master arino]

If you seriously think a Civil War 2 or American version of the Troubles is impossible I don't know what to tell you, but I can give you a massive rainbow.

I would hope for a peaceful secession with no war but we know that is unlikely

all you civil war faggots are disconnected from your neighbors. especially true if you and they own tangible property; no one wants a free-for-all where a gang of bandits is going to be able to take your family and house while you're off fighting and scrounging.

Unlike most kiwis I have actually been outside and my town is just as red as when I left it. People here dont wear masks either.

 

[Zero0]

Europeans: Actually, you Americans don't have a far left like we do here in Europe...
French President: American's leftism is fucking nuts.

It's kinda true when it comes to economics.

But yeah when it comes to culture issues our far left takes everything from the US progressives.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

There's a secondary, and frankly, equally important reason they never used it again, in addition to what @Gehenna said - which is that as a whole, the DNC fucking hated the 50-state strat. There's a few reasons they hated it.

First is the fact that the DNC relies on its shitty "only stronghold states matter" strategy because it's part of what kept the Uniparty functional. It helped keep the early progressives and oldschool dems who wanted to fix shit out, and kept the establishment hacks in. Conversely it also helped justify all those Blue Dog triangulators.

Second, it cost the DNC money to actually do, and if there's one thing the DNC hates more than its own constituents, it's having to spend more money, even if there's a payoff.

There's a reason that the second it was successful once, the DNC kicked Dean the fuck out. Gehenna's quite right that it was likely to only work once before being compensated for, but the DNC's hatred for it had a lot to do with why it got abandoned.

i think when people talk about 50 state strategy they dont realize how expensive it was. arguably it failed in the long run because even with obama and 2008 later on they still couldn't get the donations to justify the cost. people barely learn about legislative history or modern history. but you could link the massive waste in cost of the 50 state strategy to the dems not having the cash to fight the tea party an basically ending up on its knees to a gop near ammendment level majority. it was a hilarious meme when hilary didn't even campaign in most states in 2016, but it turned out the reason the dems let trump win in wisconsin and got their blue wall destroyed was because they literally didn't have the money to campaign in those states. trump's business acumen combined with forcing the RNC to save money on the primary meant they steam rolled the entire election.

the dem supermajority was neat in 2006-2010, but it didn't really produce results. its only now with the shitload of cash they got from stop trump initiatives do they have the ability to do these crazy things.

Yeah, it’s gonna take an inordinate amount of resource scarcity to get Americans to reach a breaking point. Most people are discontent, but having their material needs met is what ultimately pacifies them. I do think there will come a time where the bread and circuses won’t be enough due to a substantial shortage of bread that no amount of circuses will be able to cover. Whether that happens in 5 years or 25 remains to be seen.

again more bullshit kike lies we all believe, and like most kike lies all you have to do is look at niggers for proof. despite lead lined water, usually starving the back half of every month, chaos and violence meaning no one can catch a good nights sleep, and shortages because no respectable business wants to get looted by the chimps. niggers still go on with their lives, because they still got their family and religion. And white people will always have their version of family and religion to pacify them too:pop culture and social media.

It's kinda true when it comes to economics.

But yeah when it comes to culture issues our far left takes everything from the US progressives.

you aren't the same zero0 from EDF are you?

 

[Zero0]

you aren't the same zero0 from EDF are you?

Wtf is EDF

 

[murdered meat bag]

I would hope for a peaceful secession with no war but we know that is unlikely

Unlike most kiwis I have actually been outside and my town is just as red as when I left it. People here dont wear masks either.

Is your town burning effigies of joe biden and tarring biden voters? I'm told that it's just a matter of time before everyone digs giant graves to throw each other in

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Wtf is EDF

Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums

 

[Kramer on the phone]

What do y'all think is the most likely route to fragmentation of America? Texit? Cal-exit? The Emirate of Mississippi?

>fragmentation
this is the worst meme, the reason balkinization happened was because even with all the diversity most people stayed with their own kind in their own area. but most americans are more like Joe Rogan than Tony Woods. you can't fragment a people who outside of politics are extremely intertwined.

Tony Woods:born in dc, exclusively works in dc, all his family has been in dc since they were property, all his favorite music, actors, tv shows and films are either made or about dc, the college he went to was in dc, his favorite place is dc, even brought his funeral plot for DC.

Joe Rogan: born in Washington, raised in boston, college in penn, favorite musicans are from kansas, favorite actor is from montana, his favorite film takes place in florida, works in California, favorite tv show is in chicago and lives in texas, and when asked where he would live the rest of his life he said wyoming and his favorite place is nevada.

If you asked Rogan(AKA the average american) how to divide up the US or where he would go in a divided US he wouldn't know. Unlike say the average muslim in india in 1947 or the average balkan citizen fucking ever.