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As I recall, the issue wasn't if the court had grounds to issue a RO (it did and does), but how to do it since Erika and Russ weren't in a relationship. But I think she did get one, but don't quote me.
Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner
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DumbDude42
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if his probation is over, and she doesn't have restraining order against him, nothing
if she does have a restraining order and he breaks it then she can get him arrested for it, and he'll face charges for violating the order
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She could however, file a compliant and have him arrested again, assuming the Vegas cops cared enough. It could reasonably argued that if you're prosecuted for harassing someone, they probably don't want to ever hear from you again, restraining order or no.
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Or it could be a huge coincidence. This is Russtard we're talking about here. The guy that thinks that all he has to do is explain his case and he can sway a judge. He wanted to get out of Utah and break free from being a "Mormon" so he chose Sin City as his new base of operations to advance his music career. Like anybody goes to Vegas to get famous. You go to Vegas when you're old and washed up. Or they offer you millions to play at their casino.
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Yikes. I didn't know about the Erika thing.
In retrospect, him blathering all over his social media about moving to Vegas sounds a lot like his Facebook declarations that he was going back to Hof's brothel no matter what Hof said about it. Like, even if she has a restraining order (I don't remember if she did or not -- I don't think she did) it wouldn't prevent him from being in the same city.
This is the precise shitty intimidation tactic/loophole stalkers and creeps love to use. Russ thought he found a loophole in his brothel ban because of the ADA. He's an idiot to think that, but the fact that he was actively looking for ways around someone telling him 'no' is just one of his many red flags. If he's doing it again with Erika, moving to Vegas was a start. Before long, it'll be that it's not technically electronics communication harassment if there are no electronics involved, so 'accidentally' running into her at the supermarket and casually saying hi can't be illegal, especially after the RO expires, jeez.
Edit to clarify: Yeah, Russ has the brain of an 80 year old who thinks Sin City is a place to be to launch, rather than quietly end, your career. But I have a really hard time believing it's purely a coincidence that the "one that got away" also happened to get away to that very place mere months before Russ followed. Russ is an opportunist at heart, and Erika was nice to him for ten minutes, so she marked herself as a target forevermore.
If she's lucky, he'll merely want to explain and rekindle their "relationship" and not want to punish her outright. Of course, if she rejects him a second time, punishment will be inevitable. Russ only has so many cheeks to turn.
In retrospect, him blathering all over his social media about moving to Vegas sounds a lot like his Facebook declarations that he was going back to Hof's brothel no matter what Hof said about it. Like, even if she has a restraining order (I don't remember if she did or not -- I don't think she did) it wouldn't prevent him from being in the same city.
This is the precise shitty intimidation tactic/loophole stalkers and creeps love to use. Russ thought he found a loophole in his brothel ban because of the ADA. He's an idiot to think that, but the fact that he was actively looking for ways around someone telling him 'no' is just one of his many red flags. If he's doing it again with Erika, moving to Vegas was a start. Before long, it'll be that it's not technically electronics communication harassment if there are no electronics involved, so 'accidentally' running into her at the supermarket and casually saying hi can't be illegal, especially after the RO expires, jeez.
Edit to clarify: Yeah, Russ has the brain of an 80 year old who thinks Sin City is a place to be to launch, rather than quietly end, your career. But I have a really hard time believing it's purely a coincidence that the "one that got away" also happened to get away to that very place mere months before Russ followed. Russ is an opportunist at heart, and Erika was nice to him for ten minutes, so she marked herself as a target forevermore.
If she's lucky, he'll merely want to explain and rekindle their "relationship" and not want to punish her outright. Of course, if she rejects him a second time, punishment will be inevitable. Russ only has so many cheeks to turn.
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Maybe and I hope I'm giving shit lips too much credit but After reading his book and then Ariana Grande then Erika..two words come to mind when discussing Russ ..Rebecca Schaeffer
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if the cops catch him red handed (they show up while he's banging on her door or something like that) then sure, but otherwise there isn't a whole lot they can do beyond telling her "you should get a restraining order"
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Moving between slc and Vegas is pretty common, I don't think there's any conspiracy there.
Don't contact Erica. The last thing a victim of e-stalking needs is another random e-autist contacting her about Russ. If Null wants to let Based Skordas know, fine, otherwise no touchy.
I hope Erica has a restraining order and a gun. Stay safe gorl
Don't contact Erica. The last thing a victim of e-stalking needs is another random e-autist contacting her about Russ. If Null wants to let Based Skordas know, fine, otherwise no touchy.
I hope Erica has a restraining order and a gun. Stay safe gorl
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She has an attorney of record. She is the victim of electronic stalking. She just wants to be outside the public eye. Random strangers on the internet suddenly contacting her to inform her that they've just discovered that she and her convicted stalker are once again in the same city, is really not helping her. And tends to make her feel lots of people are stalking her. Politely contact her lawyer and appraise him of Greers proximity to his client. Or better yet let null do it. That you cannot see the proper way to do this is itself extremely disturbing.
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He was talking about moving to Nevada WAY before he even graced Erika with his presence. He moved there to be closer to the brothels, not her. I doubt Erika is really on his mind, he just uses her name to garner sympothy in his made-to-fail lawsuits.
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I would really like to be reassured by this. I really would.
Russ is an insane, obsessive narcissist who can't take no for an answer from anyone -- cops, judges, brothel owners, pop stars, Twitter whores, even God Himself. He has a history with this woman specifically and furthermore, has taken several serious blows to his ego lately (with more to come, inshallah). I'm sure that she's not the sole element behind him moving there, and I'm also sure that she knows -- likely through her lawyer -- that he's there and can take precautions.
It still upsets my tummy. This story gets played out over and over again in the world. I don't want to reopen the "would Russ actually kill someone" debate, but if you look at this without our autistic levels of Russlore (and subsequent contempt for him) it hits all the major plot points of a Dateline NBC exclusive. We can be realistic, but let's also not be naive.
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I don't think he'll pull anything. Right now, he's gunning for Null. Null, and the Farms, are his scapegoat for all his troubles. We document everything, and inevitably people who hear about Russ are directed to this thread. Furthermore, we are the one venue he cannot control, which irritates his narc brain further.
At this point, from reading this thread he probably realizes Eirika is in Vegas. He may try to contact her, he may not. We don't know why she's in Vegas, and for the purposes of this thread it doesn't matter; what matters is Russ's response to the news, if any. He may reach out to her. He may post a rant about how his trauma lumps are throbbing knowing she's in the same city. Hell, he may even ignore the news entirely to focus on bringing down Dear Leader.
My point is, we cannot predict what a cow will do. To use a well-known example, with CWC, people have tried to set him off on another of his tard rages for years and failed, only to be completely astonished with the Blarms incident; nobody could have predicted that Sonic the Hedgehog, of all things, would set him off. If Russell reaches out to Eirika, it'll probably be through a life-changing DM asking for the chance to just explain. While Russell may be slowly transforming into the Supreme Gentleman, I think he's a while away from doing anything violent. He has yet to hit rock bottom; his latest tantrum to the courts shows he still has faith that if he can just explain, the courts will listen to him.
For now, we have no evidence Rusty intends to do anything vis-a-vis Eirika, so for now, we wait. If such evidence is uncovered, Null or a Mod can figure out what the plan is. One step of that plan likely will be notifying the police.
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That's a very nice way to not answer a simple "yes or no" question. That being said, I don't see why you felt the need to assume and then misrepresent my intent.
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No one is saying they're going to contact her. Stop putting words in people's mouths. YOU settle down.
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I agree with most of you here, but I feel the best way to handle this is to let Null inform Mr. Skordas about this, and Mr. Skordas can take it from there. He has the resources and know-how to do so.
I think it would be a bit unsettling to get a bunch of messages from total strangers informing me my stalker was in the same city as myself, no matter how well-meaning those messages are.
I think it would be a bit unsettling to get a bunch of messages from total strangers informing me my stalker was in the same city as myself, no matter how well-meaning those messages are.
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He didn't question your intent, just your methods. Maybe if she didn't have a lawyer to filter this shit through it would make sense to contact her directly, but as it is, there's absolutely no reason to do that.
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There's tons of Mormons in Vegas. In fact, they were the first settlers.
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But he literally did assume my intent, though. He assumed that I wanted to contact her, and then attacked that strawman he himself made. I addressed a very specific part of his comment, specifically choosing to not mention my stance on contacting her (as in whatever or not I think I will/should, or whatever or not someone else should/will) since it was not relevant to the question. He also assumed my methods based on his previous assumption, and attacked that strawman too.
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Rusty was sentenced to 18 months probation in September of 2020, which means he’ll be under probation until March
Erica also has a protection order, which means it’s against the law for Rusty to contact her.
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That is quality content.
In my mind Josh was quite shorter, weird.
Edit : with regards to E., in my opinion, the only sensible thing to do is indeed to let Null know about the issue, and then forget it.
The more we get used to actually cross the line, and act, rather than document, the closer we get to being weirdos wanting to control every aspect of the cow's life (he's already got the cultcow tag, so after all...)
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