Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Raze]

thats the problem with that whole "go to trades" bullshit, they dont tell you how little you really make especially once you factor in the toll it takes on the body. i had guys in their 20s who know the best legit-massage places, thats how bad shits gotten, guys in their 20s that go to massages for body parts that aren't their dick. people make more just as a entry level cog in a white collar mega corp than a lot of these construction jobs.

The whole "do trades not college" idea is a fucking joke.

College/Uni doesn't educate you anymore and it's a money vacuum. Businesses don't give as much of a shit about degrees, they want experience, but nobody wants to give you experience, they want you to have 8+ years experience with software programs made only 3 years ago. And said software has an impossible learning curve with a user-hostile interface that takes 12 years to learn what every button does, and the company that sells that software want you to pay a monthly subscription fee for $200+ a month, so good luck learning it at home by yourself.

Trades are largely for the shitty danger-prone, labor-intensive, long-work hour, or gross jobs nobody wants, originally designed to suck up the people who never got their High School diploma or GED because they don't know the risks involved. The pay usually ain't worth the work, just like anything bottom-level.

That isn't to say all jobs are shit, all trades are pointless, and all degrees are worthless; I'm not trying to be that kind of a pessimistic doomer, it's just that the most common advice people want to give is outdated and meaningless for the modern day. "just go to college" or "just do a trade" is filled with more holes than swiss cheese. A lot of trades are shit and have always been shit. A lot of degrees don't get you in the door alone. Open your eyes and look at what jobs need filling and what they want/need. If the career you want is asking the impossible, don't even bother.

 

[Nate Higgers]

I've got several books written by Americans from that period of time - Dave Gingery Build a Alcohol Producing still for Fuel, and a collection of articals from Whole Earth News press about how to run engines of alternate fuels like Wood Gas, Hydrogen even some early mentions of electric quite intresting really people just looked at the old books they had around and updated them and modified engines to run on alternatives, that was easer with older cars.

Can you post up a quick rundown on the more useful/critical titles of those books that you can assume any random poster could make use of? I like to tell myself I could live without being terminally online as long as I can download and hoard all the critical knowledge and information I need to live life.

 

[Hippopatumus]

The whole "do trades not college" idea is a fucking joke.

College/Uni doesn't educate you anymore and it's a money vacuum. Businesses don't give as much of a shit about degrees, they want experience, but nobody wants to give you experience, they want you to have 8+ years experience with software programs made only 3 years ago. And said software has an impossible learning curve with a user-hostile interface that takes 12 years to learn what every button does, and the company that sells that software want you to pay a monthly subscription fee for $200+ a month, so good luck learning it at home by yourself.

Trades are largely for the shitty danger-prone, labor-intensive, long-work hour, or gross jobs nobody wants, originally designed to suck up the people who never got their High School diploma or GED because they don't know the risks involved. The pay usually ain't worth the work, just like anything bottom-level.

That isn't to say all jobs are shit, all trades are pointless, and all degrees are worthless; I'm not trying to be that kind of a pessimistic doomer, it's just that the most common advice people want to give is outdated and meaningless for the modern day. "just go to college" or "just do a trade" is filled with more holes than swiss cheese. A lot of trades are shit and have always been shit. A lot of degrees don't get you in the door alone. Open your eyes and look at what jobs need filling and what they want/need. If the career you want is asking the impossible, don't even bother.

Literally every time I have ever had a electrician in my house it's been like $300 for small jobs like fixing an outlet.

You can do 2 house visits a day and have a pretty relaxing schedule. 600*5*4 = 12000$ a month. That's not amazing money, but it's more than I make touching computers. My buddy is a handyman who is banned from working on my house because he's such a fuck up. He's 10 weeks out on jobs and drives a 60,000$ truck.

Anybody working the trades not making house money + 2nd house money is a colossal fuckup.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

@Raze

at least in times like this its a hell of a lot easier for companies to drop requirements (like for jobs that used to require degrees) than it is for them to increase pay (like for trade jobs no one wants)

@Hecate

not to be mean but the big short was a huge movie that came out almost a decade ago that told us that exact stock tip.

Literally every time I have ever had a electrician in my house it's been like $300 for small jobs like fixing an outlet.

You can do 2 house visits a day and have a pretty relaxing schedule. 600*5*4 = 12000$ a month. That's not amazing money, but it's more than I make touching computers. My buddy is a handyman who is banned from working on my house because he's such a fuck up. He's 10 weeks out on jobs and drives a 60,000$ truck.

Anybody working the trades not making house money + 2nd house money is a colossal fuckup.

the problem is not everyone can grift like that. obviously there are tons of elderly spinsters willing to pay $400 to replace a breaker, the problem is finding 500 idiots and convincing them to pay is a lot harder than you think. also a $60k truck isn't that inexpensive once you factor in 7 year auto loans.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Can you post up a quick rundown on the more useful/critical titles of those books that you can assume any random poster could make use of? I like to tell myself I could live without being terminally online as long as I can download and hoard all the critical knowledge and information I need to live life.

Sure thing I'll post a list of them up, there is some base technical knowledge assumed going in but if you can understand some mechanical and chemistry concepts you should be fine.

Also keep hard copys, PDF's are really useful assuming you have something to read them on.

 

[Hecate]

not to be mean but the big short was a huge movie that came out almost a decade ago that told us that exact stock tip

I have no idea which post of mine you are replying to lol

 

[Nate Higgers]

Also keep hard copys, PDF's are really useful assuming you have something to read them on.

Oh I definitely intend to. My gf has access to tons of printer ink and printer paper and I always take advantage of the fact.

 

[Raze]

at least in times like this its a hell of a lot easier for companies to drop requirements (like for jobs that used to require degrees) than it is for them to increase pay (like for trade jobs no one wants)

It's easier, but most corpo shitstains won't do it anyway. They'd rather wait and put the extra workload on their existing employees than raise a finger to accommodate those they deem 'unqualified'.

Literally every time I have ever had a electrician in my house it's been like $300 for small jobs like fixing an outlet.

You can do 2 house visits a day and have a pretty relaxing schedule. 600*5*4 = 12000$ a month. That's not amazing money, but it's more than I make touching computers. My buddy is a handyman who is banned from working on my house because he's such a fuck up. He's 10 weeks out on jobs and drives a 60,000$ truck.

Anybody working the trades not making house money + 2nd house money is a colossal fuckup.

Yeah this is the exception to the rule. Grifters and swindlers can make it good if they learn the basics, find the right neighborhood, and know how to market themselves. That involves getting a foothold and being a complete piece of shit, however. The majority of trade jobs aren't independent company workers charging out the ass for a hack job.

 

[Male Idiot]

I can agree that trades don't pay well unless you hit the jackpot, like being a plumber or electrician without competition in an area, than you make bank.

That said, Hungary's richest man is a plumber. Also the best friend of Glorious leader.

He famously said that "I got more money than Bill Gates and Zuckerberg because I IS SMARTER!"

 

[Nate Higgers]

bit of information i learned from a large dairy farmer in my area a couple of days ago, lots of dairy farmers around here are having an issue with feed

Have they tried going to Sneed’s?

 

[ShapelyMutton]

I going to have to disagree on the Aldi having everything in stock in the U.S. circlejerk.
During our most recent German Week two Aldis in my area failed to stock their advertised, and much needed, Spritz Shortbread Cookies and Chocolate Wafer Rolls. God only knows when the next German Week will roll around

If this trend continues then during the Christmas season we won't be able to find reasonably priced Stroopwafels(Caramel Wafers)

 

[Maurice Caine]

Literally every time I have ever had a electrician in my house it's been like $300 for small jobs like fixing an outlet.

You can do 2 house visits a day and have a pretty relaxing schedule. 600*5*4 = 12000$ a month. That's not amazing money, but it's more than I make touching computers. My buddy is a handyman who is banned from working on my house because he's such a fuck up. He's 10 weeks out on jobs and drives a 60,000$ truck.

Anybody working the trades not making house money + 2nd house money is a colossal fuckup.

If you repair computers I think you can feasibly do house jobs.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

I have no idea which post of mine you are replying to lol

about farms being based on water. the big short said to invest big on a water shortage.

 

[Jarolleon]

Oh Jesus, well, ok, I mean, you asked for it, so don't be angry.

This was the inevitable end point of the Covid restrictions. If anyone didn't see what was happening like 3 days in (when Trump declared it a National Emergency, and yes, I mean officially started, not when @Drain Todger has been telling us it started) and expect the pipes to clog, IDK what to tell you. Hell, Covid restrictions are still part of the problem; are we not seeing this in everything from doctors in NY quitting to the humble but noble truck drivers saying 'Fuck off with that shit'?

I was going to talk about the current protests in Las Vegas anyway because it was cool, but it works perfectly here, so let's frame this in the context of that. There are currently regular protests in Las Vegas and the casino workers want two things which are actually the same thing. They are asking, much like the truckers, for the mask and vaccine mandates to be lifted. I honestly didn't think I'd see the day when the indignity of it all reached critical mass, but there you have it. Nobody wants this shit except the journoscum (and some of them seem to be starting to question whether they really want it, IMHO), the politicians, and the rich people. In this case we'll define wealth by income brackets and whoever here thinks they're rich, lol, hate to tell you, you're still in the wrong bracket with us poors unless you're Satan himself, Bill Gates, in which case press S to spit, I guess.

We need a full lifting of restrictions and lockdowns ASAP, and for the journalists to admit it's just a super gnarly cold/flu and fuck off with the vaccination shit. I say this as someone who has been vaccinated for everything known to man and if your political opinions get in the way of this for some reason, then your political opinions are dumb. This is about 'do you want to starve or not', and I don't know about you guys, but I'm not willing to give my life for the Rs or the Ds.

Immediately lifting restrictions, encouraging employers to drop all requirements other than 'can you reliably clock in and do the job', maybe getting the National Guard out to the ports to help, and a few other things could still reverse this, but if it's allowed to death spiral it's gonna be bad, and I say that as someone who is not inclined to doom-posting. Like, please look around the site and you will see I am generally rainbows incarnate. Consider that I'm still saying "It could be fixed!"

So, there you go.
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Edited for typos. Also, this prediction is US specific. Sorry.

Unfortunately there is another very large group that's still in favour of it because they still believe what the journoscum tell them, because they are too senile or busy to find any other sources of information and therefore still think the Wu Flu is Chinese Death Plague. Most of my relatives are like this. If put up to a non-rigged referendum (fat chance!), I'd suspect this contingent would be large enough to keep all the bullshit in place in most English-speaking countries.

Also a girl I've been talking to works nights at Walmart in the UP, and tells me how the trucks keep arriving over 2 hours late, and everything is screwed up when her shift starts half the time. Could just be generic "Everyone sucks but me" bias but it lines up with this.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

we should have a separate thread for tips like that. i bet people here would make more money ordering stuff that will result in gift cards than they would streaming or gambling.

Please no, I have to give out enough gift cards as is.

 

[Beavis]

I tried to have dinner at a fast food restaurant and the first four I tried were drive through only.

 

[Billy Beer]

What if these shortages weren't shortages, and it's just Raw MAterials being sent to Pfizer to make the 2+ billion vaccines.

Raw materials need to be processed in to an ingredient, to be processed in to a vaccine. And seems as we have no idea what's in the vaccine, we have no idea what raw materials are required.

Raw Materials (RM) are not converted at a 1:1 ratio. To create 100kg of RM, you may need to process 1T of RM and that process also needs RM.

For talks sake, lets say the vaccine needs Cow Tongue. 1 Cow tongue = 5 vaccines. The farm has to raise the cow, the abatoir needs to process it. Let's ignore the raising and focus on the process and shipping of the tongue. You need c02 to stun the cow, then kill it, flay it, cut the tongue out. Then you need packaging, storage and transport to get that to Pfizer, which will be taking priority over other goods.

The random shortage of cat litter, could be because a RM in cat food, is also a main RM in making vaccines.

While i've no doubt 'staff shortages' are a cause, I do find it strange that the US and UK seem to be taking the biggest hit in shortages. Both countries have massive manufacturing and processesing plants. The North of the UK is basically one big manufacturing facility.

The of course we need trucks, containers and fuel to get these RM's to pfizer, and the vaccines all over the world.

Lastly, take in to consideration the delivery method of the jab; a needle. That's 2 billion pieces of metal for the needle and 2 billion pieces of plastic for the syringe, including rubber for the plunger, paper for the label, glue to stick the label to the needle and ink for the label. That's before we think about refrigeration options and requirements to keep the jabs cool.

Plastic comes from oil, the same place petrol and diesel come from. If the distrillery method favours plastic over fuel, as plastic is in very high demand due to the vaccines, could that be the cause of the fuel shortage?

Just a thought.

 

[Raze]

I tried to have dinner at a fast food restaurant and the first four I tried were drive through only.

Legit, I hate drive thru, especially after working fast food.
Lobby is better, I always opt to get food via lobby, even to go. But every fast food place has closed their lobbies due to COVID, and kept them closed due to the fact nobody in their right mind wants to work minimum wage in those miserable shitholes.

 

[Puff]

Plastic comes from oil, the same place petrol and diesel come from. If the distrillery method favours plastic over fuel, as plastic is in very high demand due to the vaccines, could that be the cause of the fuel shortage?

Just a thought.

When you refine crude it separates into a bunch of different parts. The part that you make plastic out of is not the same you make fuel blends out of. Over demand in one actually drives the cost of the other down

 

[kadoink]

More faggotry from the World Economic forum.

https://twitter.com/EcommunistForum/status/1444721010847092739