La Palma is rumbling - What are the implications of a 40 foot Tsunami along the east coast?

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That red line along the ridgeline is the recent fault that they detected at the surface, and is worrying the geologists a little bit.

This Dude would appear to be a bit of an autistic disaster nut. But he's compiled some interesting footage. Including a sped up timelapse of the volcanoes flanks collapsing.

It's also producing visible "Gravity Waves" in the air and water. Which is wild to see.
 
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That red line along the ridgeline is the recent fault that they detected at the surface, and is worrying the geologists a little bit.
Worrying them? But just a couple weeks ago we were supposed to trust them that nothing was happening!

I am a confuse. (not really)
 
That red line along the ridgeline is the recent fault that they detected at the surface, and is worrying the geologists a little bit.

Umm sweety...

That is ridiculous. A chorus of experts has come out recently and said absolutely nothing will happen


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So some are now saying the landslide isn't even the big happening, that it is infact a Magma Plume and that the Lava pretty much will keep going till it covers a large percentage of the earth as has happened throughout history. The evidence they are citing is that the lava is much much hotter than normal Volcano lava. I dont know enough about Volcano's so i will leave that up in the air

Maybe some are moving the goalposts but that would be big if true
 
Absolutely wild watching tonight, hard to get a definite number but the lava plumes are supposedly somewhere in the realm of ~800-1000ft in the air? The collapse of some of the sides of the cone in the way means that you get a proper view of the whole jet rather than just the splashes, which definitely makes for a more spectacular view for sure.


You'd think we would have seen the most spectacular stuff at the start when it was first letting off all that pressure, but after watching for the last few nights it really does feel like it's getting more violent every day. Lot of fun to watch.
 
Umm sweety...

That is ridiculous. A chorus of experts has come out recently and said absolutely nothing will happen


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Yeah, I didn't put that quite right. That line, those faults are the area of long term concern. The point where they figure if the island is gonna trigger even a small apocalypse, that's where and how it will eventually go. But they don't seem to think we're near that point. Although seeing a lot of seismic activity along that fault does raise eyebrows. It's sort of drifting from impossible to improbable and may be edging into extremely unlikely territory. Even if it went I don't think the US and Mexican Coasts would see much in the way of a tsunami. The greatest risk from a major event would probably be to Bermuda.
 
I just know you get some actual mountain looking terrain in that small stretch of area on 275 from brooksville to dade city and it would likely be safe from a mega tsunami.

To be clear im not panicking but i do have a bag ready to go full of clothes, chef boyarderee, a tent and my glock
A lot of other Floridians are going to be having that exact same thought; mostly because it's a hell of a lot closer than the panhandle to everyone downstate, after all. Plus everyone who's ever left Florida will remember driving past it.

Based on those facts alone, I wouldn't stop driving until I got near Dothan. And for fucks sake stay off of 75.
 
A lot of other Floridians are going to be having that exact same thought; mostly because it's a hell of a lot closer than the panhandle to everyone downstate, after all. Plus everyone who's ever left Florida will remember driving past it.

Based on those facts alone, I wouldn't stop driving until I got near Dothan. And for fucks sake stay off of 75.

Fortunately ill be nice and comfy hours before the normies find out
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since i dont rely on MSM for my info
 
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I'm half expecting that they'll decide against calling for evacuations if it does go up for fear of mass covid spread in the inevitable evacuee camps. Its the exact sort of stupid knee jerk reaction that'd take more than 8 hours to unfuck that I'd expect.
 
So some are now saying the landslide isn't even the big happening, that it is infact a Magma Plume and that the Lava pretty much will keep going till it covers a large percentage of the earth as has happened throughout history. The evidence they are citing is that the lava is much much hotter than normal Volcano lava. I dont know enough about Volcano's so i will leave that up in the air

Maybe some are moving the goalposts but that would be big if true
I don't think that's quite right. You'd end up with like what happened in India back in the Cretaceous where, over the course of 30,000 years, the lava flows eventually covered about half of the current subcontinent. But that was thirty thousand years, or 6x all of recorded history. It would be largely imperceptible at the human scale once MSM settles down and moves on to the next news cycle.
 
To piggyback off the talk of a lack of planning when it comes to devastating disasters, whether they be nuclear or natural, when I was a firefighter we had a major radiological hazard next door to our jurisdiction. It something happened there, we were almost guaranteed to be called in for mutual aid.

When I took my HAZMAT Technician certification, I asked what our plan was for responding to any sort of event there: one didn't exist. We were a regionally important FD and we had zero plans regarding rescue or evacuation.

Will FEMA have some sort of plan to deal with a mega tsunami if one occurs? Definitely. But I will guarantee that plan will not be coordinated with local emergency services, who will be just as devastated as anyone else.

I'm half expecting that they'll decide against calling for evacuations if it does go up for fear of mass covid spread in the inevitable evacuee camps. Its the exact sort of stupid knee jerk reaction that'd take more than 8 hours to unfuck that I'd expect.

BIDEN REFUSED TO EVACUATE FLORIDA BECAUSE OF COVID DENIAL (AND WHY THAT'S A GOOD THING.)
 
Some people in the youtube chat were complaining about not being able to find livestreams of the volcano when whatever they've been watching goes down.

I don't care enough to sign in on yt to tell those assholes, but I'll tell you guys.

On youtube, search for "La Palma" then click the FILTERS button and where it says FEATURES select 'live.' Boom. There ya go.

Don't blame me if you accidentally click on a livestream of the Iceland volcano or something because of not reading the video description. Not my fault.
 
@benutz I can't reply to your post for some reason so I'm just tagging you. Also, apologies for being off topic, but this bit piqued my interest.

"But just as there are no safety measures in place for people who live around nuclear reactors (they would get too spooked otherwise and start causing a fuss), there is no warning system for any kind of Tsunami event, that I am aware of anyway, in place to give people a quick heads up."

The specific highlighted part is VERY interesting to me. Is this just an England thing? Not to powerlevel, but I'm an American and the town that I live in is the "city of Chernobyl" to the local power plant's "Chernobyl plant" in terms of closeness. We have a ton of safety measures in place in case of a nuclear meltdown, including evacuation routes for both residents and schools, and even mandated emergency supplies of potassium iodide tablets to help prevent as much radiation damage as possible considering the circumstances. None of us are particularly spooked by the existence of these protocols, because while the idea of our Ol' Girl exploding one day and turning the surrounding region into Fallout 5: Midwest Boogaloo is understandably frightening, it's just a possibility (an extraordinarily slim one, but still) that we've learned to live with. The fact that we know what the hell to do and how to stay relatively safe if she ever does is actually very comforting. It's kind of weird to me that people would see safety precautions as frightening.

To stay on topic: Volcanoes are absolutely terrifying and gorgeous at the same time. Thank you to everyone keeping this thread updated. Also, as delightfully cathartic as NYC and DC getting flooded would be, the history lover in me hopes that the East Coast doesn't get hit for the sake of all of the historical buildings and museums that are in the region. Also, I like Florida and the people in it. They don't deserve to be swept off the map.
 
@benutz I can't reply to your post for some reason so I'm just tagging you. Also, apologies for being off topic, but this bit piqued my interest.

"But just as there are no safety measures in place for people who live around nuclear reactors (they would get too spooked otherwise and start causing a fuss), there is no warning system for any kind of Tsunami event, that I am aware of anyway, in place to give people a quick heads up."

The specific highlighted part is VERY interesting to me. Is this just an England thing? Not to powerlevel, but I'm an American and the town that I live in is the "city of Chernobyl" to the local power plant's "Chernobyl plant" in terms of closeness. We have a ton of safety measures in place in case of a nuclear meltdown, including evacuation routes for both residents and schools, and even mandated emergency supplies of potassium iodide tablets to help prevent as much radiation damage as possible considering the circumstances. None of us are particularly spooked by the existence of these protocols, because while the idea of our Ol' Girl exploding one day and turning the surrounding region into Fallout 5: Midwest Boogaloo is understandably frightening, it's just a possibility (an extraordinarily slim one, but still) that we've learned to live with. The fact that we know what the hell to do and how to stay relatively safe if she ever does is actually very comforting. It's kind of weird to me that people would see safety precautions as frightening.

To stay on topic: Volcanoes are absolutely terrifying and gorgeous at the same time. Thank you to everyone keeping this thread updated. Also, as delightfully cathartic as NYC and DC getting flooded would be, the history lover in me hopes that the East Coast doesn't get hit for the sake of all of the historical buildings and museums that are in the region. Also, I like Florida and the people in it. They don't deserve to be swept off the map.
I'm wondering if the "There is no Nuclear Safety Measures" might just be a British thing? My Dad designed and built nuclear power plants for decades. It was insane the amount of safety systems, drills etc. Is there a risk that somebody overlooked a possible hazard vector? Sure. It happened at Fukushima. They never anticipated a Megadisaster outside their design specs. And even then it would have been fine if the backup generators and pumps had been situated higher. As for Tsunami Warning System? At least in the US there is an overall alert system in place. NOA can tone out emergency Tsunami alerts just as it can Tornado's etc. And there is a Tsunami sensor network in the Atlantic. But there are very few sensors in the North Atlantic. (because it's not generally thought of as a Tsunami Risk).
 
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True, it’s very interesting to note that the current earthquake swarm is exactly where the magma might have originated.

For example, the past 24 hours (yellow line = approximate location of main eruption and lava flow to the ocean, red dots = earthquakes):
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Compared to the past 30 days (where earthquakes matched the underground magma flow and eventual eruption):
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It is concerning that the earthquake swarm has picked up recently, with larger magnitudes upwards of 3.0, when it seems to have an outlet.

Once again, if this current caldera collapses, either a new volcano will form, or...we will get good pictures. That’s all I’m saying.
 
I will say this for the volcano open La Palma, it would appear the chamber's beneath are filing up and have a nice path to the surface. There does appear to be a free flow of the magma to the surface without much hinderance. This eruption may indeed go for quite some time.

As one can imagine, if we were to see - for arguments sake - a cubic Km or 2 of material ejected and taken to the ocean where it will flow down, solidify, one can begin to understand how the slip/sheer is possible in latter eruptions or during earthquakes as the weight that is being added eventually pulls against the side and as the Ls3 slope becomes unstable.

This eruption is invaluable for volcanologists to understand these mechanisms of build-up/collapse.

Regardless of whether it wrecks destruction, it is providing real-time data of how these are built.


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I saw a interesting rant about La Palma who mentionned details we already know but it might be worth to mention it again.

Some very few years ago I issued a warning about the ongoing dangers of the disaster that could come from La Palma and the probability of a new eruption. I was criticised by various trolls as there, (according to them) was no evidence to support my warnings.
So who is still saying that today with the volcano blowing its top and within the last 24 hours, as of 1st Oct. 2021, opened yet another lava emitting vent, now the sixth (not just three as the local Spanish officials would have you believe)?
These are the same officials who are still encouraging tourists to come to La Palma and declare there is no danger and the “air inland is clean”, quote, unquote, when in fact acid laden air and SO2 is now venting more than ever, so far over 85,000 tons and that as a gas is a great deal of toxic material injurious to lungs and eyes.

So now from the horses mouth, the situation today. Within the last 24 hours three further significant earthquakes have been registered at the same depth as just before the eruption commence by a day or two.
This means more magna is flowing into the magna chamber nearer the surface and will vent within the near future, a few days. Volcanos pulse, so a temporary decline in emissions does not mean the eruption is abating, it is just the way they operate.
The geologist have already stated they expect an ongoing situation for 84 days at least and that is a tremendous amount and weight of material both as lava and ash deposits landing on the flanks of the mountain along which the potential landslide fault runs. When would it reach a tipping point?
A number of factors apply. The cones are buttressed by vertical basalt walls from previous eruptions and contain reservoirs of water naturally, plus with the lava now having reached the sea shore pressurised gases could be uplifting through the old lava tunnels and the conduction of the lava and tremendous heat (over 1000 c) is moving along the fissures and spreading laterally along the mountain ridge.

This steam, super heated water and white hot lava will be lubricating the fissures and breaking down the frictional adhesion to the cone. This is critical, because if she blows, I should say when she blows, the descent into the ocean takes but little more than ten minutes and reaches speeds of in the region of 200 mph downhill and then travels out some 30 odd miles underwater and down to over 4000 ft deep.

This would produce a massive amount of kinetic energy in the water, a mega tsunami and would obliterate the islands nearby in terms of collateral damage. Their warning time to impact from such an event is well under 30 minutes, no time to evacuate, perhaps you could get airborne if you had a plane on stand by, but ash contamination could well cause the engines to fail and flame out.

No time to be a tourist in that neck of the woods, or indeed within a great distance of the islands as the wavefronts extends through the waters at several hundred miles and hour, passing its energy from one water particle to another and uplifting to a crest as the wavefronts hit the bottom of a shelving sea floor and rise up to around 100 ft.

At sea you would only notice a BIG long swell, but no crest, so in shipping terms, you ‘Set to Sea’ at maximum speed and get into as much deep water as you can gain, head into the advancing wave at half speed (12 to 18 knots) with the front anchors deployed by near the maximum chain length – recognised maritime procedure before, having of course closed all the bulkhead doors and battened down the hatches.

Most ships would survive such an onslaught, unless near the shore line and then would likely flounder. My family has a lot of maritime experience I assure you.
 
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