US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

In the scenarios I think most likely the carriers would be sunk while they are supposed to be defending Taiwan, or 'saving' Taiwan for a Chinese occupation. In that situation we would go to war, but the damage would be done and the US loses the veneer of the sole world super power. I also don't have a lot of faith in a Navy that runs into its own ships and a commercial tanker, but that's a different story.

I don't know how though. The Chinese carriers are total garbage for projecting power, the reason why people joke about ski-ramp carriers is that in order to take off from them, you have to sacrifice load. Those fighters can't launch quickly, can't carry much fuel, can't carry a significant amount of ordinance and then would have to penetrate an air-defense network still at least a generation ahead of them. Their subs are right out, there's always at least one SSN with a battlegroup and in an actual war there'll be more out there hunting. The squids are still good.

Never mind an Ohio SSGNs launching the mother of all cruise missile strikes from beyond the range that the Chinese can respond. Their Navy looks nice and clean and painted and such, but that's because they never really go anywhere or do anything. Almost all Chinese military doctrine is theory, they have almost no real practice and none against peers. That matters. Take Japan, they'll have their Not Carriers ready in a few years, but it'll take much longer to get them back to speed on proper carrier group operations. They've been out of that business for decades and it'll probably take at least one to get the experience to really do it well. The Chinese have nothing in terms of practical experience.

People like to overestimate the US strength, even now after Afghanistan and I'm not sure why. Ignoring the demographic changes our military force has seen, we know the people in charge are politicians not military minds. And anytime you give someone 30+ years time to counter your main strength... probably enough time. Afaik the US military strategy hasn't changed for decades. And it shows.

Afghanistan is kind of a special case that no one can really deal with, that's why it's the graveyard of Empires. The last Chinese got practical military experience it was fighting the Jungle Asians that they share a land border with and getting their asses kicked. They got into a stick fight with the street shitters and neither side accounted for it self well. The Chinese want you to see them as some hyper-competent military juggernaut because they're all about face. They march well, because it looks impressive, their navy is all nice and freshly painted because it looks impressive. They want to distract you from an army full of manlets that's never been in a serious fight and a navy that looks good because it does fuck all. Face is everything to China and they don't like to fight because historically they've sucked at everything but attrition warfare. And even then how many times did China get its ass kicked by foreign powers on their own soil?

The answer is "all the fucking time." China sucks donkey nuts at any war that's not a Civil War.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Resulted in North Korea lol.

And somewhere between 400,000 and 900,000 dead Chinese solders.


Including Mao's son

 

[Scale Smerch]

It may have been a Clancy thing, but I seem to remember reading something about speculation that Taiwan had acquired nuclear weapons and set them up as mines between them and the mainland as a last resort. That's crazy though, who would give Taiwan nuclear weapons.

Believe they can make their own rather quickly if they took a mind to, just like Japan and South Korea. Matter of fact, would be surprised if these three countries were NOT moving ahead, very quietly, on their nuclear weapons programs. They can read Joey's scribbling on the wall, just like us.

Well Taiwan did technically have a nuclear weapons program until the US business lobby decided to deepthroat the CCP schlong. They definitely could produce nukes at a moment's notice, but they'd be lacking in a suitable delivery vehicle; still good enough to fling with conventional artillery or use as mines though. Hell or they could even take a page from S.M. Stirling's Draka Japan and use them to simply suicide by nuke the entire island as one final spiteful finger to the Chicoms.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

And somewhere between 400,000 and 900,000 dead Chinese solders.


Including Mao's son

Yep watching a documentary on it now, the South Koreans were winning the war & pushing toward the Chinese border until Mao got involved & sent a human wave of people to push back to the North/South Korean border.

It doesn't seem like the U.S. threw its full weight behind the war either, only supplying limited forces from the beginning.

 

[Oxous]

I don't know how though. The Chinese carriers are total garbage for projecting power, the reason why people joke about ski-ramp carriers is that in order to take off from them, you have to sacrifice load. Those fighters can't launch quickly, can't carry much fuel, can't carry a significant amount of ordinance and then would have to penetrate an air-defense network still at least a generation ahead of them. Their subs are right out, there's always at least one SSN with a battlegroup and in an actual war there'll be more out there hunting. The squids are still good.

Never mind an Ohio SSGNs launching the mother of all cruise missile strikes from beyond the range that the Chinese can respond. Their Navy looks nice and clean and painted and such, but that's because they never really go anywhere or do anything. Almost all Chinese military doctrine is theory, they have almost no real practice and none against peers. That matters. Take Japan, they'll have their Not Carriers ready in a few years, but it'll take much longer to get them back to speed on proper carrier group operations. They've been out of that business for decades and it'll probably take at least one to get the experience to really do it well. The Chinese have nothing in terms of practical experience.


Afghanistan is kind of a special case that no one can really deal with, that's why it's the graveyard of Empires. The last Chinese got practical military experience it was fighting the Jungle Asians that they share a land border with and getting their asses kicked. They got into a stick fight with the street shitters and neither side accounted for it self well. The Chinese want you to see them as some hyper-competent military juggernaut because they're all about face. They march well, because it looks impressive, their navy is all nice and freshly painted because it looks impressive. They want to distract you from an army full of manlets that's never been in a serious fight and a navy that looks good because it does fuck all. Face is everything to China and they don't like to fight because historically they've sucked at everything but attrition warfare. And even then how many times did China get its ass kicked by foreign powers on their own soil?

The answer is "all the fucking time." China sucks donkey nuts at any war that's not a Civil War.

An underrated dynamic too when talking about Chinese military might is that, well, our troops might be shit but at least they chose to join the military. China conscripts their soldiers and quality is lacking to say the least. This article is from 2017 admittedly, but the problems haven't been rectified.

"This years’ newest group of PLA recruits was reportedly among the worst in recent memory, with widespread reportage across Chinese and international media about the recruits’ health issues. As an article in the Chinese military’s official newspaper put it, “One [unnamed] cities’ physical exam washout rate for conscripts was 56.9 percent—enough to leave one speechless” (PLA Daily, October 2 : 8. Recruits were overweight, inactive or psychologically unfit."

A more recent article from the end of May shows what they're doing to try to fix the problem: lowering standards and expanding the recruitment pool.

“Military instructors found the strict and dogmatic training modes applied in the last century didn’t work for the more individual young soldiers born in the 21st century,” said Zhou Chenming, a researcher from the Beijing-based Yuan Wang military science and technology think tank.

“Some even dared to butt against and challenge superiors when they were not happy. The military was forced to adjust. Some military instructors tell me they are still muddling through how to take charge of younger generations.”

The ministry has started to adjust conscription requirements to make sure they could recruit enough qualified college students. For example, since 2014, it has lowered height requirements from 162cm (5ft 4in) to 160cm for men, and 160cm to 158cm for women, as well as lowering the bar a little for short-sighted and overweight applicants.

The PLA had an extra round of conscription last year, allowing university graduates who failed to find jobs to enlist.
“To expand sources of troops, the PLA has also started recruiting high-school graduates who are not qualified enough to be admitted to university,” Zhou said.

And despite common misconception, soldiers "being soft" is absolutely not just an American thing.

Rather than only orders and scolding, therapy sessions by professional psychotherapists have been brought in since 2011 to ease stress, according to military mouthpiece The PLA Daily.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Yep watching a documentary on it now, the South Koreans were winning the war & pushing toward the Chinese border until Mao got involved & sent a human wave of people to push back to the North/South Korean border.

It doesn't seem like the U.S. threw its full weight behind the war either, only supplying limited forces from the beginning.

The initial American support was pretty limited and therefore couldn't do much to stop the Norks from nearly rolling the South right into the sea. MacArthur landed with a pretty substantial army that more or less took over the war effort from there and it was his idea to push to the Yalu not properly prepared for a Chinese counteroffensive. That being said this was firmly in the postwar era of 'What do we even need the Army for? We have the Bomb now' so the Army had drawn down drastically and was actually not that experienced since most of the WW2 vets had already left and didn't get most of the postwar MIC cash injections the Air Force did. Going into a full scale war would've meant throwing nukes around which Truman ultimately didn't have the stomach for.

 

[contradiction of terns]

The Facebook whistle blower shit gets weirder and weirder. Here's another Scott Adams thing for you: when a news story comes out that confirms (perfectly) all of your preconceived notions and/or biases, you should immediately become skeptical because it is extremely rare that there is some groundbreaking discovery that confirms (perfectly) one side of a narrative.

This Facebook thing is too on the nose. It's too perfect and it seems like the players involved have no intent to use that perfect storm of a scandal to fix any actual problems; instead they all seem predisposed to want to increase censorship and bad oversight while trying to hide their true colors. They're using the free speech crowd's desire to see Big Tech face justice against them.

Maybe they are unironically going to use the Facebook fiasco to justify why Facebook deserves a seat on the UN. I wouldn't put it past the American journoscum (dunno about other countries).

Edit: To explain this slightly better, the UN seat would be under the pretense of 'governing' Facebook. Basically, Big Tech submits to the rules put forth by the government(s) and are, in exchange, allowed a say in said governance.

 

[Constellationzero]

I had a few beers but I don't understand a fucking word he just said.

Perhaps we need a resonator. Only THEN can we hear and truly understand the wisdom from...BEYOND.

 

[Constellationzero]

Biden has absolutely not confronted Xi over Taiwan and I don't understand what he has to gain by lying about doing so.

No no... Biden acktuallehhhh called. He didn't lie. Perhaps Winnie The Pooh ALSO needs a resonator. He doesn't have one, ergo he did not receive the call that Biden acktuallehhhhhhhhhhhh made.

 

[Oswald the Outrageous]

Soldiers and citizens buy it with blood.

Politicians trade it for gold.

If you figured out a way to make life harder for those people, would you do it?

I don't mean anything violent, minds that jump straight to force lack the imagination to change things for the better. It's rather embarrassing to watch the crayon eaters bludgeon their way through technical obstacles.

 

[Mr. Bung]

It is also absolutely correct. Facebook fucks with every person that uses it but women are way more focused on their looks than most men and the fakeness of Facebook/social media destroys their self image. I've seen this happen with multiple women I know that had all of their insecurities blown the fuck out as soon as they got smartphones and started using social media regularly. And as we pussify our men more and more, they too will become more susceptible to it and damaged by it than they already are.

Everyone just needs to remember that pretty much everyone is hiding behind a filter these days. It's so easy to airbrush and blend your photos that little girls are doing it.

 

[Confused Doggo]

Well Taiwan did technically have a nuclear weapons program until the US business lobby decided to deepthroat the CCP schlong. They definitely could produce nukes at a moment's notice, but they'd be lacking in a suitable delivery vehicle; still good enough to fling with conventional artillery or use as mines though. Hell or they could even take a page from S.M. Stirling's Draka Japan and use them to simply suicide by nuke the entire island as one final spiteful finger to the Chicoms.

They should call up Kojima, he'll give them the fix. I doubt they have the budget for a Metal Gear, but they might have enough for a Shagohod.

 

[Michael Wade]

Which is why they're busy banning fun, although most of the country outside of the coastal cities is still basically 3rd world. They haven't even been able to convince their farmers to switch to modern methods. Don't underestimate them, they are a threat, but in true Chinese fashion, they very much want you to over estimate them. Think of China as the frontin' manlet hoodrat of nations.

a lot of guys are laughing off the chinese, and that's all well and good. We certainly could use the laugh... but I have no doubt they have the lunacy and willpower to start some serious shit. They dont value human life, and in a desperate situation they will choose the short term and initially satisfying method of war to get what they want.

If you were to actually believe all of Posobiec's claims of insider information it would make him the most valuable source of intel on the fucking planet. He knows what goes on between Harris and Biden in secret meetings, he knows what goes on in the upper echelons of the Chinese government and their future military strategies - the United States doesn't need the CIA, just this guy's hot twitter takes.

He knows what he's talking about, I monitor this shit in real time and it tends to follow what he says. Now if you think he could be a long term plant that will one day flip... who knows.

The Facebook whistle blower shit gets weirder and weirder. Here's another Scott Adams thing for you: when a news story comes out that confirms (perfectly) all of your preconceived notions and/or biases, you should immediately become skeptical because it is extremely rare that there is some groundbreaking discovery that confirms (perfectly) one side of a narrative.

This Facebook thing is too on the nose. It's too perfect and it seems like the players involved have no intent to use that perfect storm of a scandal to fix any actual problems; instead they all seem predisposed to want to increase censorship and bad oversight while trying to hide their true colors. They're using the free speech crowd's desire to see Big Tech face justice against them.

This is all a pretext to shut down/gain control of the internet and communications. That's the endgame if shit ever goes hot over here.

 

[The Last Stand]

There IS an obesity epidemic, however - we just can't say anything about that, because "BoDy PoSiTiViTy!", (which only ever seems to swing one way, funny that) and "FaTpHoBiA!"

Only applies to WOMEN. Not men, strangely enough. I hear more from women preaching about being overweight to obese as "body positivity."

The shot chaser is when COVID affects the overweight more than anybody else.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

a lot of guys are laughing off the chinese, and that's all well and good. We certainly could use the laugh... but I have no doubt they have the lunacy and willpower to start some serious shit. They dont value human life, and in a desperate situation they will choose the short term and initially satisfying method of war to get what they want.

I don't really know what they could do other than stupid human wave tactics, all of their armaments suck & their soldiers are spoiled only children with no survivalist experience & are absurdly unhealthy even by American standards. It doesn't help that they're tiny compared to regular Americans, & if you think 5'8" is a manlet then what are your thoughts on 5'4"?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Only applies to WOMEN. Not men, strangely enough. I hear more from women preaching about being overweight to obese as "body positivity."

The shot chaser is when COVID affects the overweight more than anybody else.

Lol why is that strange? Most overweight men just roll with it and whatever. It's been long known that mostly women need positive affirmation about how they look from others.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

People like to overestimate the US strength, even now after Afghanistan and I'm not sure why.

That can be laid solely at the feet of Biden and Milley. Then again the military were acting insubordinate to Donald Trump's demands to withdraw so whatever.

 

[Trianon]

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3823
Hyper-lib Quinnipiac polling found that Republicans have a +3 advantage in House races now.

Basically, how would you vote if you voted today?
46% GOP; 43% Dems

Last month:
42% GOP; 45% Dems

So that was a six-point swing in a month.

They also polled approval ratings for Dems/GOP in Congress:

Democrats in Congress saw a 7-percentage point drop in their approval number since September, when Americans gave them a negative 37 - 53 percent rating, while Republicans in Congress saw a 5-percentage point increase in their approval number from September

Hauntingly beautiful.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well this movie is free to watch,

Edit: Fuck Jewtube, the movie in question is Weekend at Bernies.

 

[Snekposter]

The initial American support was pretty limited and therefore couldn't do much to stop the Norks from nearly rolling the South right into the sea. MacArthur landed with a pretty substantial army that more or less took over the war effort from there and it was his idea to push to the Yalu not properly prepared for a Chinese counteroffensive. That being said this was firmly in the postwar era of 'What do we even need the Army for? We have the Bomb now' so the Army had drawn down drastically and was actually not that experienced since most of the WW2 vets had already left and didn't get most of the postwar MIC cash injections the Air Force did. Going into a full scale war would've meant throwing nukes around which Truman ultimately didn't have the stomach for.

The big thing that bloodied the USA was the Chinese doing very, very good night movements in their initial offenses, pushing us back since we were very inexperienced with that sort of combat. And then 1951 happened with the Chinese outrunning their supply lines, and Chinese arrogance convincing them they could face the West in open combat instead of what were essentially large-scale guerilla actions. As part of Operation Thunderbolt, our first major offense against ChiCom forces, the Battle of the Twin Tunnels saw a reinforced regiment assault and break an entire Chinese division for the loss of a mere 45 KiA, Chipyong-Ni had 10,000 Red Chinese throw themselves uselessly at 4,500, racking up 1,000 KiA in exchange for just 51 UN soldiers and a humiliating defeat, and the Third Battle of Wonju ended up stymieing their counter-attack. It was overall a bloodbath for the Chinese, and Operations Killer and Ripper (yes, those were the official names), did a good job killing and ripping the Chinese forces.

Things did not improve for China.