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"A grand jury indicted Ian Mackenzie Cranston on Thursday with a charge of second-degree murder and five other charges in connection with the Sept. 19 shooting death of Barry Washington Jr., a young Black man, Deschutes County District Attorney John Hummel said during a rare downtown press conference Thursday night.

Bend Police arrested Cranston, of Redmond, late Thursday. He was lodged in the Deschutes County jail and is being held without bail, said Hummel, who held his press conference across the street from where the shooting took place. Cranston faces charges of second-degree murder, first-degree manslaughter, second-degree manslaughter, first-degree assault and two counts of unlawful use of a weapon.

“Our country has a disgraceful history of denigrating, prosecuting, and lynching black men for talking to white women,” Hummel said in a statement issued after the press conference. “Over the last week, hundreds of people called and emailed me to remind me of this history; I responded to every one of you.”

Authorities have previously said the 22-year-old Washington was shot about 12:11 a.m. Sept. 19 after leaving the Capitol nightclub in downtown Bend. Cranston, 27, is alleged to have pulled a gun and shot Washington after Washington spoke to Cranston’s girlfriend, which angered Cranston. Cranston, who is white, was initially arrested at the scene on suspicion of second-degree manslaughter, but he later posted $10,000 bail and was released, angering many in the community.

After Hummel announced the charges to a crowd of about 20 people, there were audible expressions of relief.

Before the press conference, Hummel told Washington’s mother, Lawanda Roberson, of the indictment. He expressed his condolences for the loss of her son. She thanked God, Hummel said."

Video of the incident taken from the girlfriends phone shows the black man complimenting both the man and his girlfriend with his fists.

This is allegedly from his tiktok.

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[Aussie_Autizzy]

Which brings us right back to the entire point of this thread.

It does.. but not the comment I was respnding to...
"the USA is, when you take the guns per capita amount into account, one of the least violent countries on Earth" - FALSE

 

[BlerdBjern]

You know... I actually know a large amount of black people, coworkers, neighbors, that sort of thing... none of them act like this.

Then again we live out in the suburbs in a relatively well off area, guess this is just natural selection at work?

The one's who can function in society outside of a ghetto get out of the ghetto and do just fine, and the ones that can't rot there.

So basically the same scenario as white trash and trailer parks.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

The only Portagee politician here is Devin Nunes and he's suing a cow.

Also, aren't they an average of 15% African blood?

Finally, any information on whether it was a legal carry or not? What are the laws in Alta Jefferson?

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

But the deflection involved in merely stating that it's a racial issue doesn't?

If the problem that has a distinct beginning was once able to be distinctly identified, then it was never a "racial issue" as the idea is commonly understood-- it would be a cultural issue, or a cultural sabotage, depending. On the other hand, if it is a "racial issue", then nothing can be done because "that's just the way they are".

To say that it's a "racial issue" is just to take the SJW's pathological pity and bigotry of low expectations to its honest and un-voiced conclusions. The SJW has technically given up on the black person and uses them as a means to signal their virtue. The "race realist" uses the black person but for the sake of signaling their enlightenment... or whatever.

I should have explained out my actual argument on this basis, I don't agree that racial issues are eternally hard grained into a group. I'll use an example to explain this claim in a second.

Look at it like this, this weird self-hatred that each group has is a racially ingrained issue, but it's not a permanent issue (IE: Whites hate themselves more than others, Jews hate themselves more than others, Africans hate themselves more than others/etc.) Is possibly an evolution of each group being hardwired to compete primarily within their own race thus developing a greater self-hatred than an outro-hatred (or out-group hatred.) As groups become closer in "multi-cultural" societies the competition changes, similar to say Japanese Women having a high out-group preference (around 30%) but as society changes around them that margin will change whether it increases that outgroup or shrinks it.

In the same way what I'm saying is it's possible to fix, but the more that get dragged into that group the less say Thomas Sowell's you're going to have and the more Didn'Du's that will develop.

Also one mistake, the reason why racial issue isn't permanent is because in any racial tribe there are multiple sectors of that group. Let's again use Thomas Sowell as an example, he moved out of the so called "Black community" areas, Thus his evolution as part of his tribe has differed from say the stereotypical depiction of Tyrone. They're both racial "groups" that act in different ways based on their development. In the same way the positive development is a stint to the victim complex masters, it's still racial between the two as they call Thomas a race traitor. With a heavy emphasis on "race traitor."

Or here's an easy theorymon, if tomorrow all the Thomas Sowell-lites/likes killed the Didn'Du's tomorrow, I hypothesize the children of that group would be more productive. HOWEVER, if the Didn'Du's kill off and become a majority of the Thomas Sowell-Lites, then that race will be shaped by the negative group (crabs-in-a-barrel) and that group will have more impact on the "Black Community" than the opposite which we are seeing now.

To make it easier, I know plenty of productive black men, but I would argue they are less productive, and I don't disagree with your assertion that they were sabotaged, however, instead of facing the sabotage and correcting it they gave in which is what we are seeing world wide right now. I'll repeat it can be corrected, but the way to do that would be extremely bloody and honestly not sure if currently it's feasible with how passive the Thomas-lite's are in comparison to the aggro Tyrone's. Sure they usually live in a high-risk life full of violence thus more prone to die, but they also target the more productive members again shrinking their size.

The SJW's use their ideology to create this circular loop and to further force socially engineer (and devolve) many groups to be more primal. Even though partial is intentional, I wonder if part of it is the self-destructive nature of humanity in general in human form leading us all to the wall of extinction?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

IOW, nigger tried to rape a White woman. Good riddance.

 

[A Gay Retard]

My man Timmy was just tryin to vibe to a classic, coolin on the corner with his fly bitch. Hater found out that still waters run deep. Thank god his girl got that video or he'd be fucked.

 

[Freesia]

Have you even been able to prove your premise? If the problem is one principally of race, then the rates should consistently hold, no?

Depends what you mean by that. Socio economics obviously play a role and various factors play into criminality. What people in this thread are arguing is that race is clearly a very important factor as well. While the black crime rate can vary relative to the white crime rate, for as long as the stats have been taken whites have never committed more crimes per capita than blacks. Also this pattern is not unique to the USA. Blacks in Canada, all across Europe, Asia, etc. are always over-represented in crime statistics. Even in African countries where they're the majority and whites are the minority, they still commit way more crime.

For example, here are the crime stats for blacks in London, UK. It's almost identical to the patterns you see in America.

And like I said before, race isn't the only factor, but there seems to be a stronger correlation between race and crime than between things like poverty, education or unemployment and crime.

 

[TitusOvid]

Avoiding blacks is much easier than trying to solve their myriad of issues whatever their cause I would say.

 

[Caesare]

Good. Fuck these niggers. I would have shot his black ass too if he put his hands on my chick.

 

[round robin]

You know... I actually know a large amount of black people, coworkers, neighbors, that sort of thing... none of them act like this.

Then again we live out in the suburbs in a relatively well off area, guess this is just natural selection at work?

The one's who can function in society outside of a ghetto get out of the ghetto and do just fine, and the ones that can't rot there.

There are plenty of blacks that don't act like complete retard niggers and actually have regular jobs and contribute to their communities. The issue is that even the vast majority of these blacks will defend and coddle their less intelligent brothers and sisters out of a bizarre sense of tribalism and will advocate for the exact same policies that allow retard niggers to be retard niggers with impunity. It's like a crab bucket but the crabs who actually managed to escape put a lid on the bucket.

Whites don't have this issue. When we see Johnny Methmouth get ventilated by cops or rivals we just say "lol what a retard" and get on with our lives.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Depends what you mean by that. Socio economics

Why do you keep defaulting to talking about socioeconomics to trial your argument when I'm not arguing about the influence of socioeconomics?

While the black crime rate can vary relative to the white crime rate, for as long as the stats have been taken whites have never committed more crimes per capita than blacks.

And? In a multicultural society, if you tabulate crime by race of perpetrators, some group is almost certainly going to be committing more crime. Someone has to be on "top" there. But the story told by that is incomplete-- where does most of that crime happen, and what are the profiles of the perps?

Also this pattern is not unique to the USA. Blacks in Canada, all across Europe, Asia, etc. are always over-represented in crime statistics.

So you have to analyze black crime in Canada, European countries, Asian countries, etc. separately first, because the black people in those areas aren't the black people in America. This argument is lazy.

Even in African countries where they're the majority and whites are the minority, they still commit way more crime.

Not only do I not entirely believe you, but again, you have to analyze the situations in those countries.

And like I said before, race isn't the only factor, but there seems to be a stronger correlation between race and crime than between things like poverty, education or unemployment and crime.

But we're talking about a social scene where all of these things interact in specific manners, so such isolated correlation is already all-but-meaningless. On top of that, "race" in function is broad and encapsulates not only genetic features but also often a myriad of cultural aspects (which is susceptible to historical trends) and this can't be statistically isolated without a good amount of forethought, so the statistical isolation you feature is even more meaningless-- or rather, it's vague. That is to say, what about race, out of all the things that it can encapsulate, contributes to the trends we're examining?

And of course, you're still fighting the strawman of "muh economics" even though I'm completely unconcerned with economics since poor people aren't inherently more violent than well-to-do people.

There are plenty of blacks that don't act like complete retard niggers and actually have regular jobs and contribute to their communities. The issue is that even the vast majority of these blacks will defend and coddle their less intelligent brothers and sisters out of a bizarre sense of tribalism and will advocate for the exact same policies that allow retard niggers to be retard niggers with impunity. It's like a crab bucket but the crabs who actually managed to escape put a lid on the bucket.

Whites don't have this issue. When we see Johnny Methmouth get ventilated by cops or rivals we just say "lol what a retard" and get on with our lives.

Because white people hate themselves, in large swaths. They're also more wont to coddle the aforementioned blacks.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

True. However, after some quick research, I can't find a single romance language that spells "burger" with a U other than Spanish/Portuguese. Which is hilarious, because there isn't a single Spanish-speaking country that can be considered even moderately safe.

Imagine, cucked by your own failure to learn English. Delicious irony.

They don’t speak Spanish in Portugal.

Single motherhood is just cope. It is racial.
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The problem with race is it focused on phenotype not genotype. A lot of American blacks are a quarter european and a mixture of different African peoples. Furthermore, a number of American whites, especially in the south have some African dna. Therefore if we are to ensure racial purity we must ensure that southerners are forever placed below the True American.

The negro influence can be seen in the Southerner by the way he talks, what food he eats, and even dare I say his proclivity to violence. Their inferiority was proven on the battlefield when they foolishly waged a war in such a manner that they could not win. If they were more rational they could have fought a defensive guerilla war, one in which they may lose some land, and in turn, some of their property. But the idea of losing even an inch of their property was so troubling to their mixed minds that they would rather lose the war on their terms than make the necessary but uncomfortable sacrifices to win.

 

[Android raptor]

So a bunch of drunk people were acting stupid and one pulled a gun out and shot another for saying dumb shit/possibly trying to throw hands? How is this worthy of anything beyond local news? And how are the races of any of the people involved relevant unless there's solid evidence it would have gone down differently if the dude was white or whatever?

It's tragic but this kind of shit happens all the time, drunk young people act stupid and one of them pulls a gun out and starts shooting when you really should've just punched the person at worst. Catcalling is annoying AF but unless he also had a weapon punching him or spraying him with pepper spray or something should've done the trick (or if the chick immediately started hissing and making other completely inhuman noises at him, that's always fun).

Seriously if women shot every dude that catcalled us most of us would have kill counts of like 50+ by age 30 that started when we were children in elementary or middle school.

 

[Freesia]

Why do you keep defaulting to talking about socioeconomics to trial your argument when I'm not arguing about the influence of socioeconomics?

Uhhh, yes you were. You were talking about single motherhood which is definitely both "socio" and "economic". I also thought that your quote:
>You're unable to understand that such community apoptosis is going to have cascading and multifarious effects that interact with already existing peculiarities as well as itself in order to produce results that need to be first specially examined for what they are
was referring to socioeconomics as well. If not then feel free to correct me.

And? In a multicultural society, if you tabulate crime by race of perpetrators, some group is almost certainly going to be committing more crime.

Yes, that group is always black people.

what are the profiles of the perps?

They're black.

So you have to analyze black crime in Canada, European countries, Asian countries, etc. separately first, because the black people in those areas aren't the black people in America. This argument is lazy.

I don't know what you mean by this. Also, you were the one that made this argument first. I quote you:
>We're talking about numerous societies of varying quality that are primarily black, we're talking about changing trends that strongly suggest a degradation of the community within the United States, we're talking about millions of black people that function just fine and are even successful both within and without the United States whether they're in black majority communities
So are they all the same black people or not? You have to make up your mind.

Not only do I not entirely believe you, but again, you have to analyze the situations in those countries.

Then look at race and crime in South Africa. When the attacks on white farmers gained publicity, some westerners went out of their way to show how white people are not disproportionately targeted because the vast majority of victims are black. Obviously they didn't go into great detail on the race of the assailants, but you can piece that together yourself. Here's a paper that goes into some more detail: https://www.researchgate.net/public...n_South_Africa_Dispelling_the_'Huntley_thesis

Also, I don't know what "situation" you're referring to. You always seem to leave your arguments extremely vague. You already mentioned that you aren't talking about socioeconomics so I really don't know what you're trying to say here.

But we're talking about a social scene where all of these things interact in specific manners, so such isolated correlation is already all-but-meaningless. On top of that, "race" in function is broad and encapsulates not only genetic features but also often a myriad of cultural aspects (which is susceptible to historical trends) and this can't be statistically isolated without a good amount of forethought, so the statistical isolation you feature is even more meaningless-- or rather, it's vague. That is to say, what about race, out of all the things that it can encapsulate, contributes to the trends we're examining?

So again, your premise is unfalsifiable. You cannot connect race and crime because it's simply too complex. But apparently you can connect crime with anything else despite the complexity.

And of course, you're still fighting the strawman of "muh economics" even though I'm completely unconcerned with economics since poor people aren't inherently more violent than well-to-do people.

I don't know what you mean by "inherently", but poor people commit more crimes per capita than rich people.

 

[murdered meat bag]

don't you race retards work at all? there's scum everywhere and there's nice people everywhere.

Yes, that group is always black people.

whites do more financial crimes and asian do more academic cheating. crime is not universal and there are different types.

Then look at race and crime in South Africa. When the attacks on white farmers gained publicity, some westerners went out of their way to show how white people are not disproportionately targeted because the vast majority of victims are black. Obviously they didn't go into great detail on the race of the assailants, but you can piece that together yourself. Here's a paper that goes into some more detail: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284596974_Race_class_and_violent_crime_in_South_Africa_Dispelling_the_'Huntley_thesis

yup black people kill black people. of course it doesn't matter if it's xhosa or zulu.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

The negro influence can be seen in the Southerner by the way he talks, what food he eats, and even dare I say his proclivity to violence. Their inferiority was proven on the battlefield when they foolishly waged a war in such a manner that they could not win. If they were more rational they could have fought a defensive guerilla war, one in which they may lose some land, and in turn, some of their property. But the idea of losing even an inch of their property was so troubling to their mixed minds that they would rather lose the war on their terms than make the necessary but uncomfortable sacrifices to win.

Or, call me crazy here, white trash from Scotland and Ireland brought white trash culture with them from the old country and since the whites that the Africans were most exposed to in the rural south were white trash, black "culture" has a lot that was borrowed from white trash culture.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

don't you race retards work at all? there's scum everywhere and there's nice people everywhere.

whites do more financial crimes and asian do more academic cheating. crime is not universal and there are different types.

yup black people kill black people. of course it doesn't matter if it's xhosa or zulu.

"There's scum everywhere and nice people everywhere" doesn't change certain groups have more of an observable amount doing more negative than positive. Also that dodge misses the context of the argument, almost as bad as when "colorblind people" pretend they would actively walk into a Black neighborhood as part of the outgroup. Yeah... Good luck with that.

Races commit different kinds of crime more than other groups, but what is being argued and missed is certain groups commit more crimes than other predominately around the world. The argument being made is about disproportion when being the majority and when not being the majority such as the US. Insert 13% commits 54% meme here.

Next you'll tell me (outside of race) because some Republican committed crimes or Jan 6th that I should pretend Democrats are just as extreme as Republicans and that there is no nuance at all, or that sexually women and men commit crimes and that there is no favoritism to women in society, or that both sides have favoritism at equal amounts (They don't) and thus both can be bad.

Also just going from experience, although I've worked with quite a few black people, the problem persists those who were willing to commit violence against their coworkers were also black people against non-black people on average. Yeah if you're a submissive kiss ass you're less likely to face that violent reaction, but disagree even outside of politics or hit a sore spot in any regard... Boom raging chimp out this way cometh.

Even the non-violent ones often times have a chip they try to exploit, like a friend of mine had a black employee-friend join a party once, some random we didn't even know yelled certain racial slurs and the next day at work, despite not knowing the guy the employee friend wanted my friend to apologize and basically grovel for him having to face such "oppression."

Either way the point is it's a plausible deniability game similar to what women pull in society "But men do bad things too." or politically "Independents and Republicans do bad things too." It's a bad deflection and just poorly thought out rebuttal to obfuscate the issue.

 

[Android raptor]

Gotta say, I appreciate how this thread immediately degraded into an autistic slapfight about whether black people, immigrants, or single mothers are the worst when none of those things are even relevant to the story (since there doesn't seem to be any hard evidence the races of any of the people involved had a role in what happened).

Thunderdome.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Uhhh, yes you were. You were talking about single motherhood which is definitely both "socio" and "economic".

It's "socio" but not particularly "economic". It's sociocultural, more than anything.

I don't know what you mean by this. Also, you were the one that made this argument first. I quote you:
>We're talking about numerous societies of varying quality that are primarily black, we're talking about changing trends that strongly suggest a degradation of the community within the United States, we're talking about millions of black people that function just fine and are even successful both within and without the United States whether they're in black majority communities
So are they all the same black people or not? You have to make up your mind.

Don't take me out of context. That statement was in response to a guy saying that "niggers can't function in society". The point of your quote of me is to point out that that's a ridiculously low bar that he's still proven wrong on. The person I was responding to more than likely meant to refer to all black people when he said "niggers"-- obviously, I operated within that framing for that statement since my point was that he was in no way proven right.

Then look at race and crime in South Africa.

Didn't realize South Africa took over the rest of the continent, or that the kind of Africans in South Africa were the same kind anywhere else on the continent.

Also, I don't know what "situation" you're referring to. You always seem to leave your arguments extremely vague.

"Situation" is "situation". What is happening in that country? What are the immediate explanations for crime there? What are the underlying factors of those explanations? How long have said alleged crime-causing factors existed, vis-a-vis the crime level?

Literally, I'm saying that you need to know the country, its history, and its cultural trends. I jape all the time about Japan's declining birth rate, but obviously there's a collection of interwoven issues that causes its present crisis (which wasn't an everpresent issue within said society), and in a serious conversation I would be remiss to recognize none of that.

So again, your premise is unfalsifiable. You cannot connect race and crime because it's simply too complex.

Too complex for you, maybe. The only thing you can say is "these people here are black and they commit crime here, and those people there are black and they also commit crime" without attempting to demonstrate the similarities between the different groups of black people in order to begin establishing that there's a point to that statement beyond the literal observation.

Your reasoning is a black box that spits out "niggers". In contrast, if I say that a significant portion of the issue is "single motherhood", then I can add more credence to my point by pointing out a cascading chain of events caused by mass single motherhood as well as its normalization within a community. I can talk about the welfare state concurrently destabilizing community bonds by making people within said community less reliant on each other compared to the state, and the implications of replacing necessarily reciprocal obligations with the unilateral and unfeeling subsidy of the state. I can line up the times of events like the sustained increase in single motherhood (which affected all races) and sustained drug use/crime increases with events that promoted the aforementioned issues (namely, the sexual revolution and the war on poverty). I can even point out that Northern blacks weren't fond of Southern blacks post-Civil War (or perhaps before it, as well) because of their rowdy behavior which was identical to their Southern white neighbors.

The bottom line is that I can actually provide a working theory that relies on known knowledge, statistics, and plausible assertions. You look at stats that improperly (dishonestly) isolate factors (or stats that are non-representative for your purposes) and then additionally fail to understand what those factors even are as well as the limitations of those stats, for the sake of making the case that race is the principal factor in black crime, and black people are just predisposed to it. Why? How? You don't have a theory for it, or else that would have been your thesis and your stats would have been used as (first-level, at least) support of that.

Rather than my premise being unfalsifiable (I've provided various points of falsifiability just now), yours is plainly incomplete (your conclusion goes as far as "that's just how they are", presumably).

I don't know what you mean by "inherently", but poor people commit more crimes per capita than rich people.

Is it because they're poor? Is there a mechanism you can propose that would demonstrate that explanation?

 

[No. 7 cat]

Someone else said it, but it bears repeating: Ian Mackenzie Cranston needs to flee the country, if he still can. Urban youth are a protected species.