Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

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Yeah, iirc, we all assumed that his birth parents were young and poor and that's why then gave him up for adoption, but then discovered they were actually mature, successful, professionals in Hollywood who just didn't want to deal with a homunculus. The birth sister is some sort of photographer, yes, and reasonably successful. I think the parents eventually divorced; I don't know if he ever tracked down/made contact with biodad, but biomom either met or talked with him once or twice and didn't want to pursue a relationship past that. Biosis never knew of his existence until he tracked them down and wanted nothing to do with him at all.

Now, I'm not saying they're all definitely a bunch of narcissists who don't want to associate with a gross disabled person, but that's not an impossible interpretation here.

They definitely have connections in The Biz (what kind of connections and how deep is uncertain) that they aren't sharing with Russ. He 100% wanted Biosis to introduce him to famous people and help his career, I'm sure.

He objectively missed out on a lot by being rejected from Well-To-Do Hollywood Family. That's not to say that Religious Rural Wyoming Family weren't good people who did their best for him and provided him a really good life, but I think any normal person would feel a bit of resentment regardless. And Russ is not a normal person, so this probably still boils is blood to this day.

I bet the Mormons who adopted him secretly regret their decision deep inside after who he turned out to be. If his own flesh and blood rejected him, why wouldn't his adoptive parents as well. Especially after he went against everything they wanted in a son.

What an embarrassment he must be, I feel sorry for them and how they ended up investing in such a grotesque person.

That's the only thing I feel slightly bad about for him.
His bio-parents kept the normal baby, and got rid of the broken one. That's got to hurt a person terribly.
But he's never gotten any type of counseling to help with that, has he?

Don't feel bad for him, his adoptive parents gave him support and more of a chance at a good life than he could have hoped for. He just ruined it because it's his nature. He belonged in the streets or an orphanage while someone more deserving should have been adopted instead.

 

[AnOminous]

No one gives a shit about the Gerber kids, Anaïs Gallagher,, Katie Cassidy, Cody Horn, Tito Jackson, Gia Coppola, Hank Williams III, Jack Osbourne, or [insert name of celebuspawn wannabe here].

And Hank III is actually talented, just nobody seems to know where to pigeonhole him and he's an absolute fuckup on the business end.

 

[The Dude]

Yeah, iirc, we all assumed that his birth parents were young and poor and that's why then gave him up for adoption, but then discovered they were actually mature, successful, professionals in Hollywood who just didn't want to deal with a homunculus. The birth sister is some sort of photographer, yes, and reasonably successful. I think the parents eventually divorced; I don't know if he ever tracked down/made contact with biodad, but biomom either met or talked with him once or twice and didn't want to pursue a relationship past that. Biosis never knew of his existence until he tracked them down and wanted nothing to do with him at all.

Now, I'm not saying they're all definitely a bunch of narcissists who don't want to associate with a gross disabled person, but that's not an impossible interpretation here.

They definitely have connections in The Biz (what kind of connections and how deep is uncertain) that they aren't sharing with Russ. He 100% wanted Biosis to introduce him to famous people and help his career, I'm sure.

He objectively missed out on a lot by being rejected from Well-To-Do Hollywood Family. That's not to say that Religious Rural Wyoming Family weren't good people who did their best for him and provided him a really good life, but I think any normal person would feel a bit of resentment regardless. And Russ is not a normal person, so this probably still boils is blood to this day.

The way I recall it was that Russ got in touch with both bio parents. Things started going south with biomom because Russ acted like his usual, entitled, narcissistic self, making demands of biomom, acting shitty towards her, etc. The final straw with biomom was when he found out about his twin sister, he started making demands that biomom pressure the sister into getting in contact with Russ. Russ never once considered his twins feelings about the situation, suddenly having your twin brother that you never knew about dropping in from nowhere right into your life. Russ demanding that biomom force twinsis to be part of Russ' life was what finally drove biomom to tell Russhole to go slurp rocks.

Biodad, on the other hand, tried harder to have a relationship with Russ IIRC and stuck it out longer than biomom. Kept in touch with Russ for around a year or so if I'm remembering right. Finally Russ drove biodad away by being his own typical, shitty, bitter, entitled self. I think the lawsuit threats to get twinsis to give Russhole her attention and the shitty things he said about biomom were the last straw for biodad, but he really did give having a relationship with Russ the old college try.

If anyone has the records we had of that story and wants to share them because I'm wrong about things, please feel free to post them. If I got anything wrong then I apologize, but this is the way I remember it happening.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

When she bluntly told him she didn't want a relationship with him and to stop contacting her, he threatened to sue her. He never did, so he must have decided it wasn't worth the effort. He threatened to sue Erika too for not wanting to be in a relationship with him unless she sat down with a mediator to "work on their friendship(that they didn't have at that point). He clearly believes you can use the courts to force people to associate with you against their will.

I just wonder what he said or did to her to make her feel that way?

Seems like most people, if they found out they had a brother or sister, would want to get to know the person. I know I would.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I just wonder what he said or did to her to make her feel that way?

Seems like most people, if they found out they had a brother or sister, would want to get to know the person. I know I would.

Knowing what we know of Russ, and knowing that his bio sister was connected to the entertainment industry (not "biz"), he probably demanded she hook him up with high level Hollywood connections and make him famous. His resentment of his biofamily stems from the delusion that if they'd kept him, he'd be a mover and shaker in Hollywood right now instead of working shit jobs in Vegas.

 

[The Dude]

I just wonder what he said or did to her to make her feel that way?

Seems like most people, if they found out they had a brother or sister, would want to get to know the person. I know I would.

I mean, I can understand her feelings on the matter. She went her whole life not knowing she had a twin brother somewhere in the world. Then one day a total stranger blows into your life claiming to be your long lost twin. You had no warning because he didn't even have the common decency to let your parents break the news to you. You reach out to your mother to find out what the hell is going on, she has the uncomfortable duty of informing you what's going on, and in doing so she tells you that her interactions with brother have been unpleasant because of his self-centered, narcissistic, demanding behavior. I think that would put a lot of people off from beginning a relationship with such a person, even if they are your blood. After all, just because they share your genetics doesn't change the fact that they're a complete stranger in every other way. Not to mention she had her own life to live, her own goals to pursue, and her own career to worry about. That doesn't even touch on any other stresses and complications she may have had in her personal life. And then when this stranger starts threatening you with lawsuits in an effort to force you to accept him into your life? I know that would only make me more determined to keep a person like that far away from being part of my life.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Knowing what we know of Russ, and knowing that his bio sister was connected to the entertainment industry (not "biz"), he probably demanded she hook him up with high level Hollywood connections and make him famous. His resentment of his biofamily stems from the delusion that if they'd kept him, he'd be a mover and shaker in Hollywood right now instead of working shit jobs in Vegas.

I'd love to have seen Russtard try to go to Hollywood and make it big. Can you imagine it?

 

[RembrandtCourage]

I agree it's probably the stimulus checks, but I would love it if he won a small amount at a casino -- like a few thousand dollars -- when he first got to Vegas and now thinks he's a professional gambler who can always fall back on that if he fucks up his current job too badly.

You know you might be on to something. He might not be a bad poker player at least. After all he has a hell of a poker face.

 

[DrJonesHat]

You know you might be on to something. He might not be a bad poker player at least. After all he has a hell of a poker face.

You know he has all sorts of other tells.

 

[Kumquat]

I just wonder what he said or did to her to make her feel that way?

Seems like most people, if they found out they had a brother or sister, would want to get to know the person. I know I would.

I must preface this by saying I have no idea what actually went down. But I'll still say this.

If you found out you had a sibling you didn't know about, but that sibling turned out to be Russell Greer, you'd probably want them to just fuck right off too.

 

[AnOminous]

You know he has all sorts of other tells.

He probably is a weak better who makes a tiny raise with aces before the flop when he's ahead, and then makes a huge call after the flop when he's behind. And then thinks the other player is the one who played it wrong and the game is rigged.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

And Hank III is actually talented, just nobody seems to know where to pigeonhole him and he's an absolute fuckup on the business end.

Also personally, as it turns out.

 

[The Dude]

Shit, not the fucking "Russ would be good at poker because durr hurr poker face" argument...AGAIN. Damn it...

 

[Tonberry]

It's been mentioned before, but related to the current discussion on his music, one thing about Russ is that the closest thing to any sort of creative outlet is his songwriting and playing, yet he never does it for its own sake. It's always to achieve an objective, never to create something. And that's pretty damn sad, really.

I feel like this is a key point. We can all agree that a real musician could definitely overcome a disability like Russell's. The problem is, this goblin has absolutely no passion for music. Or art, or writing, or practising law, or literally anything else that doesn't give him immediate sexual gratification. Russell simply doesn't care about music at all, he just uses it as a means to an end. He never writes songs for fun, to practice or to express himself, just to try and woo sexy celebrities.

That's why he'll never get any better, his music is completely empty, and made for no one other than the girl he's trying to impress this time. Every single song is just a mad pipsqueak banging on a keyboard, writing whatever self-serving shit he thinks is going to get him into the pants of some hot young millionaire.

 

[Miss Misery]

. There are tons of members of the Coppola family who have tried to become big names, but Sofia and Nick Cage are the only ones to actually get anywhere.

Jason Schwartzman and I disagree with you. On this singular point. Everything else was great.

 

[The Dude]

I feel like this is a key point. We can all agree that a real musician could definitely overcome a disability like Russell's. The problem is, this goblin has absolutely no passion for music. Or art, or writing, or practising law, or literally anything else that doesn't give him immediate sexual gratification. Russell simply doesn't care about music at all, he just uses it as a means to an end. He never writes songs for fun, to practice or to express himself, just to try and woo sexy celebrities.

That's why he'll never get any better, his music is completely empty, and made for no one other than the girl he's trying to impress this time. Every single song is just a mad pipsqueak banging on a keyboard, writing whatever self-serving shit he thinks is going to get him into the pants of some hot young millionaire.

Exactly. People who learn to play an instrument often do it because music is a deep passion for them. Much of the time they will play just for the simple joy of it. I've known quite a few people, myself included, who learned to play the guitar or bass simply because they wanted to jam along to their favorite songs and have absolutely no interest in writing their own music, starting/joining a band, or trying to become a professional musician. They learned because their love of music or certain songs was so great that they wanted to join in.

I've said this in the past, but I don't think Russ has any love for music and doesn't even have a favorite song. Most of the bands/singers that he's mentioned as being his favorite have either been stuff he likely grew up listening to because his parents or older siblings enjoyed it, or has been bland, vapid, cookie-cutter modern pop that he claims to love because he thinks it will make him seem more hep and in touch with the younger generation. Like he's trying way to hard to fit in with the kids. His tastes in entertainment is always so inoffensive and basic-bitch that it actually makes Russ seem even MORE out-of-touch with those younger than himself. It's like some alien who knows nothing about humans and Earth culture suddenly got dropped on Earth without any warning, and now he's struggling to fit in with the Earthlings.

 

[Cousin_Larry]

I think it's hilarious that Russ does not even care to make any friends. A "friend" to Russ is only a transactional relationship that can bring him closer to that sweet sweet vag.

With Russell there are no feelings of love, friendship, camaraderie, or social bonding. There is only the lust for pussy, and the anger of not receiving it.

It is hilarious because he's such a shit person, but it's also sad. Imagine being completely alone in life. No one to talk to or hang out with, ever. Not even strangers will acknowledge you on social media. That's gotta be a terrible existence.

That said, he deserves it, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying, as much as he tries to put on a happy face (ha!), he has to be miserable.

 

[ScooterL]

You know you might be on to something. He might not be a bad poker player at least. After all he has a hell of a poker face.

The first time he got raised, he'd fly into a rage and file a lawsuit.

"The player to my left called against other players, and I relied on his calling as a promise not to raise when I bet."






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[Pip Squeak]

Yeah, iirc, we all assumed that his birth parents were young and poor and that's why then gave him up for adoption, but then discovered they were actually mature, successful, professionals in Hollywood who just didn't want to deal with a homunculus. The birth sister is some sort of photographer, yes, and reasonably successful. I think the parents eventually divorced; I don't know if he ever tracked down/made contact with biodad, but biomom either met or talked with him once or twice and didn't want to pursue a relationship past that. Biosis never knew of his existence until he tracked them down and wanted nothing to do with him at all.

Now, I'm not saying they're all definitely a bunch of narcissists who don't want to associate with a gross disabled person, but that's not an impossible interpretation here.

They definitely have connections in The Biz (what kind of connections and how deep is uncertain) that they aren't sharing with Russ. He 100% wanted Biosis to introduce him to famous people and help his career, I'm sure.

He objectively missed out on a lot by being rejected from Well-To-Do Hollywood Family. That's not to say that Religious Rural Wyoming Family weren't good people who did their best for him and provided him a really good life, but I think any normal person would feel a bit of resentment regardless. And Russ is not a normal person, so this probably still boils is blood to this day.

Thank you!

I couldn’t quite remember the details.

I mean, being generous they may have been young and poor at the time and couldn’t cope with two babies, one needing a lot of medical care. Even so, that’s going to sting.

I can almost get on board with him thinking the bio parents owed him anything but what I can’t get my head around is how he thought his bio sister bore any responsibility towards him. Of everyone he could choose to make demands of, that’s where he went.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

Thank you!

I couldn’t quite remember the details.

I mean, being generous they may have been young and poor at the time and couldn’t cope with two babies, one needing a lot of medical care. Even so, that’s going to sting.

I can almost get on board with him thinking the bio parents owed him anything but what I can’t get my head around is how he thought his bio sister bore any responsibility towards him. Of everyone he could choose to make demands of, that’s where he went.

Yeah, it's all speculation but here we go.

Adoptedsis is extremely devoted to Russ, and he's obviously pretty chauvinistic in his treatment of women (at the risk of annoying the Mormons in this thread, a big part of that undoubtedly comes from his religion and the conservative gender-role enthusiasts he had as parents). So whether he has the brainpower to realize this consciously or not (spoiler: he doesn't) discovering a second sister who could actually get him ahead and not just love him unconditionally must have seemed too good to be true.

I mean, he did the same thing with Taylor Swift (though with additional creepy layers of sexual fantasies involved). Taylor was supposed to let Russ inspire others "through her". She was his vessel, the mechanism by which his greatness would be known to the world. There is no God but Gourdhead and Tay-Tay is his Prophet. Him deigning to be nice to her and buy her an ice cream was supposed to be the simple, authentic gesture that won her over. It wasn't about proving his worth to her, it was about her recognizing his superiority just for being himself. The song was to get her attention, sure, but in his mind as soon as he had that attention, she was supposed to shift her focus onto supporting him and handing him a successful career.

tl;dr Women serve men. Especially men to whom they owe a duty, such as a husband or brother.