Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

I don't understand where they're getting 99.7% anyway.

In places like Louisiana 0.3% of the entire state's population has already died of Covid. How does that work? Either 100% of the population has had Covid or that 99.7% figure is off. And if everyone one has already had Covid, why are people still getting infected and dying?
it's a crippling failure to grasp how statistics can differ depending on location, with respect to variables like population density, average level of education, and accessibility to half-decent healthcare. hartford, connecticut probably looks very different from cherokee, north carolina, for example.
 
The 'natural immunity is superior' argument is so stupid it makes me want to hit my head against the wall. The only context in which it makes sense is to argue that those who have recovered should be exempt from vaccine mandates. I'm not sure I agree, but at least it's logical.
While that's the only context where it makes sense (at least one Israeli study suggests natural immunity is at least as good as getting the vaccine), it does make sense in that context. After all, an infection is the actual event a vaccine is seeking to imitate.
If you took a .3% chance of dying every day, odds would be 2:1 against you surviving a single year. People don't fucking understand probability for a shit.
 
The 'natural immunity is superior' argument is so stupid it makes me want to hit my head against the wall. The only context in which it makes sense is to argue that those who have recovered should be exempt from vaccine mandates. I'm not sure I agree, but at least it's logical.

But arguing that those who haven't had Covid before should skip the vaccine because natural immunity is better is downright retarded. It's like arguing that if you want to prevent house fires, you should burn down your house instead of installing smoke detectors and sprinklers because a pile of ashes won't ignite, so a previous house fire provides better protection against house fires.
It's honestly quite malicious since there is a decent chance of getting Long Covid side-effects from catching the virus that are not anywhere near as rare as vaccine longterm side-effects.

I've known people who lost their sense of smell and taste or had it so that most foods taste repulsive. Considering how much I post in the Jack topic, one here can surmise correctly I'm into cooking so this would be a goddamn nightmare world for me.
 
From the Biden thread

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I don't understand where they're getting 99.7% anyway.
It's not wrong, if you have the right mix of ages in your population, first world medical care, etc. I've seen published IFRs in the 0.2-0.3% range. But this sort of binary thinking, where the only choices are survival or death, doesn't reflect the suffering and debilitation of the survivors, or the cost to society of having so many people sick at the same time.

If you took a .3% chance of dying every day, odds would be 2:1 against you surviving a single year. People don't fucking understand probability for a shit.
Most people don't get COVID every day though. Usually you get it once. I have seen some anti-vaxers saying they've had it twice ... it's a point of pride, they think it means they have 2x natural immunity. They skip the step where their immune system was so crap it let them get COVID a second time.
 
It's not wrong, if you have the right mix of ages in your population, first world medical care, etc. I've seen published IFRs in the 0.2-0.3% range. But this sort of binary thinking, where the only choices are survival or death, doesn't reflect the suffering and debilitation of the survivors, or the cost to society of having so many people sick at the same time.
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Considering how much I post in the Jack topic, one here can surmise correctly I'm into cooking so this would be a goddamn nightmare world for me.
Even if that were literally the only thing that happened, it would be worth a jab or two or three to avoid, just like the normal flu is worth a yearly jab if you aren't a complete pussy.
 
>"The vaccines are unsafe because we have no long-term data to prove that they're safe!"
>OK, we're going to do a year-long study to see if the vaccines are safe and effective over that time period.
>"WTF, how do you think this is OK? This is literally execution!"

For a group of so-called free thinkers that operate on facts and logic, they seem to make a lot of arguments that are purely based on their feelings.
 
Even if that were literally the only thing that happened, it would be worth a jab or two or three to avoid, just like the normal flu is worth a yearly jab if you aren't a complete pussy.
I'll get the flu jab once they find a replacement for Squalene. Don't like the idea of damaging the ocean ego-system for it.
 

>"The vaccines are unsafe because we have no long-term data to prove that they're safe!"
>OK, we're going to do a year-long study to see if the vaccines are safe and effective over that time period.
>"WTF, how do you think this is OK? This is literally execution!"

For a group of so-called free thinkers that operate on facts and logic, they seem to make a lot of arguments that are purely based on their feelings.

There's a thread about it in A&N, and the responses are as stupid as one would expect.
 
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