Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

[RCR]

From what I can gather, he was with Angry Robot and showed promise which landed him a 3 book, $100,000 deal with Tor. You've said you know that world so maybe you can answer. Is that kind of deal normal and based on his popularity as an author and book sales estimations is there any way he sold well enough to be making any sort of substantial royalties?

Where did you read the 3 book/$100,000 from? Im really curious because I would have assumed there's now way anyone would pay Patrick that much for his writing.

 

[KingOfGains]

The r/LoganLynn sub was archived alongside the old OnA sub. The thread you are talking about can be found here. The whole thread is hilarious and deserves a full read, but I'll provide some highlights here.

The OP of the thread.

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A wild Pat appears

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A cross section of the conversation. Most of the thread is just Pat responding in his usual deranged style for hundreds of posts.

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I found this comment by Pat funny. He's actually boasting about having to pay $5k to get his twitter account back. This thread was in 2019, Pat will be banned again in 2020 during the US presidential election, and will pay another $5k to get his account back again.

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What a nice trip down memory lane. Funny to see that Pat's method of dealing with trolls hasn't changed one bit.

His twitter today was pretty boring again, more politi-sperging and responding to trolls. He did bash Dave Chapelle though, I hope this situation progresses in a similar fashion to his Norm tweet and he ends up in a war with black twitter.

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I can't read any of pats "No, child" type posts without hearing his faggot voice and cringing anymore. It's kinda ruined his posts for me. I'm trying to sit here and enjoy all this content of lols but, fuck. It's getting harder after those recordings. Good shit as always moon. Good shit.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

He always says he got "six figures" and he had 3- or 4 book deal. I just went with the lowest six figure number. He's never mentioned specific numbers to my knowledge.

I find that to be odd since first time/ new authors make up to $50k and a little more depending on the publisher (it's based on how many books they actually expect to sell). So if he got a three book $100k deal he got it because people at SFWA told the company to give it to him "or else".

Also a good publisher will advertise your book, Ricks books rarely get advertised.

 

[AnOminous]

Generally, publishers don't start paying out royalties until after the book in question has made back the amount of the advance. Thus the eternal dilemma of the professional writer: Should I seek a large advance that sales might not cover, or do I take a smaller advance (or no advance) and hope sales are strong enough that royalties end up paying out more?

This is a retard so pathetic he will repeatedly fake attacks on himself to have some reason to play victim. Suffice it to say anything this fat psycho says is a lie.

Also a good publisher will advertise your book, Ricks books rarely get advertised.

They'll also assign an editor to anything they care about. Rick's books go out filled with typos, solecisms, mangled sentences, and all kinds of pathetically bad and unprofessional material in them. To get any kind of appearance of having any quality at all, he has to scream and bully and throw tantrums to get real reviews removed while continually begging for shill reviews to lie and claim his garbage is worth anything.

 

[Hey Fatrick FUCK YOU]

get angry when someone sits next to them and says hello.

Patrick is so devoid of attention from real life human beings that the mere act of somebody sitting down near him and saying hello is a significant event worthy of taking pictures and tweeting about.

I think he actually had an agent that was well connected in the industry. I can't remember the guys name, hopefully someone else will.

His name is Russell Galen and his email address is russellgalen@sgglit.con

 

[Next Task]

He always says he got "six figures" and he had 3- or 4 book deal. I just went with the lowest six figure number. He's never mentioned specific numbers to my knowledge.

Ah. Any sources other than him, though?

 

[Oliver Onions]

Is it bad that I kind of want to acquire physical copies of Pat's books now? They might actually be worth something if he ever decides to climb a clocktower.

 

[AnOminous]

His name is Russell Galen and his email address is russellgalen@sgglit.con

He is in fact a very well known literary agent largely focusing on SF.

 

[Mr Moonface]

Is it bad that I kind of want to acquire physical copies of Pat's books now? They might actually be worth something if he ever decides to climb a clocktower.

His heart would explode after climbing the first ten steps.

 

[JustStopDude]

Patrick is so devoid of attention from real life human beings that the mere act of somebody sitting down near him and saying hello is a significant event worthy of taking pictures and tweeting about.

He is upset because it's a middle aged woman and not some young chick.

Why he expects anyone beyond people in the same stage of alcoholism as him to be at a bar, early, during a weekday, is beyond me.

The ONLY reason he is there is to try and pick up women. James Joyce and Jack Kerouac (both raging alcoholics and far better authors) never wrote in a pub or a bar. It's too fucking distracting.

He is just pissy that he can't get decent tail...well your in a bar at like 10am on a Tuesday ya drunk!

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

Is it bad that I kind of want to acquire physical copies of Pat's books now? They might actually be worth something if he ever decides to climb a clocktower.

His books will never be worth shit. There are probably thousands unsold, and he is too much of a pussy to ever do anything that would put anyone but his own liver and cholesterol in danger.

 

[Oliver Onions]

His books will never be worth shit. There are probably thousands unsold, and he is too much of a pussy to ever do anything that would put anyone but his own liver and cholesterol in danger.

You're right, of course, but I still think they'd sit nicely on my shelf next to Alphabet of Manliness.

 

[KingOfGains]

Not that I know of. It is hard to take the word of a fat man that denies his fatness. He also used to say his stand-up comedy "pays the mortgage". He'll say anything in the moment to make himself look better. I suspect he combined his 2 book deals in his fat head into 1 big contract that he can brag about. "IIIIIII MADE SIX FIGURES AS AN AUTHOR, CHILD." But it's six figures spread out over like 6-7 books. He's fat.

He won't make even that without a real publisher or company to promote him. That pedo guild he's part of barely mentions him by name or by book. Torbooks or whatever it was doesn't have him listed as an author still to this day. And only one of his books are on the site.... I think.

Pat is not making 6 figures. His wife might be with being a cougar for hire. But him? Nah. He makes five figures.

 

[Richard Tuggs]

Given how Rick is a drunk that can't admit he fucked up, I could see him coming home three sheets to the wind and opening the letter that announced the cheque and mistaking the number of zereo's like a shity sitcom and starts bragging about it publicly cause he is a success now, then realizes he fucked up at some point and instead of going "I was a sillygoose and fucked up, it wasn't for $100,000 it was for $1,000.00." He instead sticks with the lie to the point that he believes it as truth such as his weight, his heterosexuality, or how he was winning the lawsuit.

 

[The I Scream Man]

So, lets talk a little bit about Amazon, book sales in particular. Yall know by now that there's a lot of info publicly available on Kindle regarding books and their authors, and from that publicly available data you can probably further infer that it might be possible to determine how full of shit Fatrick is regarding his sales acumen (or lack thereof).

I figured this was the case, so I consulted with an actual author (as in, he makes actual money from his writing) and got him to help me understand exactly how much Fat is making and how. First, lets see a nice image:



This is a program called KDSpy, if you're at all interested in metrics relating to Kindle ebooks (or physical copies, or audiobooks) this is one of the programs you can use to investigate them, its generally used for keyword tracking and approximate metric information as shown here. What you're looking at is all of his books, organized by title, length in pages (as far as Amazon knows), sale price as of this morning, estimated monthly sales, revenue in whole dollars, number of total reviews and sales ranking (which Amazon freely displays).

So what can we infer from this?

• As the helpful red box down below indicates, he's making a few hundred bucks from his books on average per month from all sources as far as the program can determine. Please note that the software isn't 100% accurate, I consulted with my author friend and a couple other people to verify this info and was told that programs like KDSpy tend to overestimate actual revenue because they do not have internal access to the algorithms which correlate sales ranking and reviews to actual sales, so these are "best guess" measurements which end up being pretty close anyway. After all, if the books were more popular they'd be higher on the sales ranking list (with a lower actual number), which would directly indicate higher sales. There isn't a publicly available direct correlation between sales rank and actual sales, but the data it does have access to from real life, no bullshit authors does substantiate this (or so I am told).
• Additionally, we can infer that the books themselves aren't popular even if we disregard the sales ranking information because of the length of time they've been out versus the number of reviews they've received. Indie authors (and lets be honest, even if he was on an imprint these are indie numbers) are always begging for 5 star reviews because that drives all sorts of Zon metrics and advertising. The more 4 or 5 star reviews a book receives the more likely Amazon is to show it to you, even with recent changes to how it displays books to potential customers. In The Black has been out for a year on Wednesday and has 143 reviews total, 59% of these being 5 stars, so that infers that the sales are very poor for this particular title. You have to figure that out of 100 readers only a small portion will bother to leave a review, let alone a nice one, so this implies that not many people actually read the fucking thing. You can draw your own conclusions for the rest given that information.

This sort of thing isn't really my forte (obvious, I'm sure) but it does help flesh out what other posters earlier have (correctly) stated regarding his advance. Namely, that he would not be receiving royalty checks until his advance is paid back to Tor. I believe one of two things is true here: either he is lying about a "six figure" advance, or he is lying about continuing to receive any money from it at all because these books haven't yet paid the publisher back. I personally believe its the former, but either way he is definitely lying through his teeth about something here. His previous books obviously didn't sell that well either, so I believe his actual advance was much much less than he has publicly admitted to, perhaps in the neighborhood of $10000, which still wouldn't have been paid back yet judging by the metrics available. Either way he really is the equivalent of a shiftless layabout, but more importantly its obvious that he doesn't care about writing, definitely the more serious of his crimes.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

So, lets talk a little bit about Amazon, book sales in particular. Yall know by now that there's a lot of info publicly available on Kindle regarding books and their authors, and from that publicly available data you can probably further infer that it might be possible to determine how full of shit Fatrick is regarding his sales acumen (or lack thereof).

I figured this was the case, so I consulted with an actual author (as in, he makes actual money from his writing) and got him to help me understand exactly how much Fat is making and how. First, lets see a nice image:

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This is a program called KDSpy, if you're at all interested in metrics relating to Kindle ebooks (or physical copies, or audiobooks) this is one of the programs you can use to investigate them, its generally used for keyword tracking and approximate metric information as shown here. What you're looking at is all of his books, organized by title, length in pages (as far as Amazon knows), sale price as of this morning, estimated monthly sales, revenue in whole dollars, number of total reviews and sales ranking (which Amazon freely displays).

So what can we infer from this?

• As the helpful red box down below indicates, he's making a few hundred bucks from his books on average per month from all sources as far as the program can determine. Please note that the software isn't 100% accurate, I consulted with my author friend and a couple other people to verify this info and was told that programs like KDSpy tend to overestimate actual revenue because they do not have internal access to the algorithms which correlate sales ranking and reviews to actual sales, so these are "best guess" measurements which end up being pretty close anyway. After all, if the books were more popular they'd be higher on the sales ranking list (with a lower actual number), which would directly indicate higher sales. There isn't a publicly available direct correlation between sales rank and actual sales, but the data it does have access to from real life, no bullshit authors does substantiate this (or so I am told).
• Additionally, we can infer that the books themselves aren't popular even if we disregard the sales ranking information because of the length of time they've been out versus the number of reviews they've received. Indie authors (and lets be honest, even if he was on an imprint these are indie numbers) are always begging for 5 star reviews because that drives all sorts of Zon metrics and advertising. The more 4 or 5 star reviews a book receives the more likely Amazon is to show it to you, even with recent changes to how it displays books to potential customers. In The Black has been out for a year on Wednesday and has 143 reviews total, 59% of these being 5 stars, so that infers that the sales are very poor for this particular title. You have to figure that out of 100 readers only a small portion will bother to leave a review, let alone a nice one, so this implies that not many people actually read the fucking thing. You can draw your own conclusions for the rest given that information.

This sort of thing isn't really my forte (obvious, I'm sure) but it does help flesh out what other posters earlier have (correctly) stated regarding his advance. Namely, that he would not be receiving royalty checks until his advance is paid back to Tor. I believe one of two things is true here: either he is lying about a "six figure" advance, or he is lying about continuing to receive any money from it at all because these books haven't yet paid the publisher back. I personally believe its the former, but either way he is definitely lying through his teeth about something here. His previous books obviously didn't sell that well either, so I believe his actual advance was much much less than he has publicly admitted to, perhaps in the neighborhood of $10000, which still wouldn't have been paid back yet judging by the metrics available. Either way he really is the equivalent of a shiftless layabout, but more importantly its obvious that he doesn't care about writing, definitely the more serious of his crimes.

Looks like they're calculating the sales numbers for the publishers cut not his. His cut would be around 5% of that. Royalties aren't much.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Looks like they're calculating the sales numbers for the publishers cut not his. His cut would be around 5% of that. Royalties aren't much.

Good point, when I asked I heard 10% after the advance was paid back. Knowing Fat as we do it makes more sense that it'd be less with some bullshit contract that he leapt on so he could be a real life author(!)

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Good point, when I asked I heard 10% after the advance was paid back. Knowing Fat as we do it makes more sense that it'd be less with some bullshit contract that he leapt on so he could be a real life author(!)

5% for the low end new authors, if you've been around awhile you'll get 10% to 15%. It's why nowadays they say to start off self publishing.

Safe bet he's making about $14 a month in royalties from his books.

 

[Rekkington]

What do you know about Angry Robot? That's who he was with before Tor. Maybe he got a smaller advance there, earned out and did better than expected before getting his 'big' contract with Tor. And that's where the likely small sum of royalties comes from?

From what I can gather, he was with Angry Robot and showed promise which landed him a 3 book, $100,000 deal with Tor. You've said you know that world so maybe you can answer. Is that kind of deal normal and based on his popularity as an author and book sales estimations is there any way he sold well enough to be making any sort of substantial royalties?

I have never, I repeat, NEVER seen one of Fatrick's books anywhere out in the wild. Not at book stores nor at libraries. I'm fairly certain he makes 99% of his sales off of e-book $1 discount sales and the other 1% when "hand sells" aka drunkenly forces his shitty book on some poor bartender as a 'tip'. He's a very good hand-seller, child.

That's another thing. How many author's go around 'hand selling' their books? Is it common? It sounds tacky as fuck and would be annoying to have some fat sweaty guy made out of ham trying to sell you a book based on his gay imagination.

I go to book stores often enough and have seen Patrick's a few times. It's not surprising once you understand the absolute state of modern book stores. The big ones follow whatever the trends are, which is why 1/3 of the Sci Fi section is all Dune books now. But the smaller stores are still heavily curated by the owners. Even a decade ago it was well known that the people who become librarians and book store owners are the stereotypical purple haired horn rim glasses bitch who probably still wants to fuck a hispanic werewolf at 36.
This is why I can wander into a small town independent shop and see 7 copies of Lindsey Ellis, and I to this day I can't find a single copy of fucking Ringworld in 3 different places.

 

[Mr Moonface]

Pat was a giant prick on twitter today. I've only captured what I think are his most egregious tweets. There are a lot of petty insults and childing that I've left out because they are very repetitive.

Man who signed away rights to his daughter berates and threatens a grieving mother.



Man who has been unemployed for over a decade celebrates other people losing their jobs.



Pat attempts an insult, mixes up Al Bundy and Ted Bundy.



Man who pretends to be a 'classic conservative' bemoans the loss of meaning in political labels.

'Classic conservative' is upset that a baby wasn't aborted.



And lastly, here's just one example of what his timeline is filled with. Go back to that r/loganlynn thread I linked a few pages back and marvel at how he's still spamming the same insults years later.