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This is basically why I couldn't order an MRI in the ED. Unless I got a cancel, then I could slip someone in.
Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention
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Purple Bra
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Chelsea "Validate Me" Lawrence so far has been having multiple, totally real seizures and "freezes" everyday as well as having tremors, speech issues, leg pain, and difficulty walking. Mayo diagnosed her with FND and, while waiting to find a FND facility, Chelsea began having uncontrolled violent seizures so got transported to the hospital by mean, abusive EMTs who didn't believe her not at all fake symptoms.
After four days in the hospital, they find a facility that is able to take Chelsea. She gets transported via ambulance, of course, along with her adopted sister (?) April. (I did not fully verify April's relationship to Chelsea to determine if they are/were just very close friends or if there was an actual adoption there.) She ends up getting dumped at Cedars at St. Louis Park. Website is here (archive) if anyone is curious.
Now that she's tucked away in a nice little nursing home rehab, Chelsea takes about getting overstimulated and sensory overloaded. She has lots of triggers: turning on a light at night time, eating crunchy foods, eating oranges, listening to certain music, cold packs after seizures, the smell of a subway store, tornado sirens on Wednesday, FaceTime, and more. She can't handle any stimulation whatsoever, but loves reading the private messages people are sending her!
By December 9th, Chelsea has gotten herself dragged back to the hospital. She has a UTI and she's passing out. She thinks this might be hemiplegic migraines. Doctors are dismissive and want to call psych and PT is trying to get her out of bed, but she just can't do it. Also, a POTS mention, but they can't test her for it there.
At this point, Chelsea wants a different nursing home. She claims the UTI was their fault and wants to go somewhere else. After talking with one lady from the facility, Chelsea gets offered a spot at a different location, but that ultimately doesn't work out. According to Chelsea, no other facility wants her because of her "neurological condition that they don’t know about" and cries about discrimination.
After nine days in the hospital, Chelsea manages to sit up and stand all by herself. She didn't even need a neck brace and, miraculously, her head didn't bobble. (I swear to God, those are her words.) The next day, she manages to start walking. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that she has a better chance of getting a new placement if she's not a completely useless bedbound waste of space.
(Also, Chelsea's sister, Lacey, ends up getting sick around this time period. She will eventually recover.)
The next day, Chelsea announces that she did manage to get a new placement. This time she's going the Villa at St. Louis Park. Website is here. (archive) Thanks to the power of music, they manage to get Chelsea to walk 28 feet! She likes physical therapy now! Also, she ends up claiming she thinks her ADHD med and pain interacted somehow to cause seizures which broke her brain and caused the FND. She doesn't specify the particular meds, but I find that unlikely.
(Chelsea will also claim much later that the seizures were caused by her totally very real MCAS.)
Psych visits Chelsea and she writes a nice long temper tantrum. Her seizures are real! Her seizures deserve to be treated medically! She also learns that she basically needs to block out the whole entire world using ear buds, sunglasses, and gloves and that reading for 20 minutes will trigger a "freeze"/seizure. The good news though, is that Chelsea managed to take her first shower since Thanksgiving!
Do you want to witness the MIRACLE OF MUSIC? Too bad, here's the video anyway.
By mid-January, they're starting to talk about sending Chelsea home. Chelsea, predictably, does not like that idea. She doesn't want to teach her new physical therapist and occupational therapist and speech therapist about FND and she needs a neurologist she can visit. She's not ready yet. And she is passionate! She doesn't write her Caring Bridge posts for attention, guys, she writes them for awareness! And she has to crowdsource her symptoms because doctors don't want to touch her!
At the end of the month, they've set a go home date for Chelsea: February 5th. Chelsea says it'll be okay. She's going to get tired but she can do it. She also gets an appointment with a neurologist in March that she picked out herself.
On February 5, 2020, Chelsea leaves the Villa and goes home. She talks about the progress she's made and making it work with her various therapies. She rested her brain and now she can do it!
If this is where the story ended, then it might have been a mostly successful journey. But, as we know, Chelsea will go on to start a TikTok account, reject her FND diagnosis, claim an alphabet of disorders, and unnecessarily take up hospital beds for unreasonable amounts of time.
After four days in the hospital, they find a facility that is able to take Chelsea. She gets transported via ambulance, of course, along with her adopted sister (?) April. (I did not fully verify April's relationship to Chelsea to determine if they are/were just very close friends or if there was an actual adoption there.) She ends up getting dumped at Cedars at St. Louis Park. Website is here (archive) if anyone is curious.
(Also, Chelsea's sister, Lacey, ends up getting sick around this time period. She will eventually recover.)
(Chelsea will also claim much later that the seizures were caused by her totally very real MCAS.)
Do you want to witness the MIRACLE OF MUSIC? Too bad, here's the video anyway.
By mid-January, they're starting to talk about sending Chelsea home. Chelsea, predictably, does not like that idea. She doesn't want to teach her new physical therapist and occupational therapist and speech therapist about FND and she needs a neurologist she can visit. She's not ready yet. And she is passionate! She doesn't write her Caring Bridge posts for attention, guys, she writes them for awareness! And she has to crowdsource her symptoms because doctors don't want to touch her!
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I fucking hate this bitch. If she was able to be in a codependent relationship she would be having none of these fake problems.
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Maybe I'm just another uneducated old-schooler living in the stone age, but... how do Dissociative seizures cause neurogical damage? Serious question for familiarized or med kiwis.
Dissociative seizures are purely psychosomatic, which is what Chelsea claims, no? I'm either missing something, or this Chelsea is hilariously delusional.
I'm guessing the lattter considering she's convinced herself psychological non-epileptic seizures are just as "real" to the point she claims stimulant and opioid medications caused them which would only be valid reasoning in actual Epileptic seizures because they lower the seizure threshold, but not in Dissociative seizures instead of trauma, stress, or mental illness.
It's fun watching her so committed to these absurdities, while actually being forward about her doctors seeing straight thru her bs. Thanks @Purple Bra for the write ups, she's entertainingly insufferable and I'm totally here for it.
Edited: hit submit before I finished because I'm on mobile and dumb.
I know Epileptic seizures can cause brain damage because, you know, they're actually caused by a storm of electrical activity in the brain. I'm also aware there are other non-epileptic seizures that can cause brain damage, like hypoglycemic and hypoxic seizures because the brain needs glucose and oxygen to function (lack of = oh shit).
Dissociative seizures are purely psychosomatic, which is what Chelsea claims, no? I'm either missing something, or this Chelsea is hilariously delusional.
I'm guessing the lattter considering she's convinced herself psychological non-epileptic seizures are just as "real" to the point she claims stimulant and opioid medications caused them which would only be valid reasoning in actual Epileptic seizures because they lower the seizure threshold, but not in Dissociative seizures instead of trauma, stress, or mental illness.
It's fun watching her so committed to these absurdities, while actually being forward about her doctors seeing straight thru her bs. Thanks @Purple Bra for the write ups, she's entertainingly insufferable and I'm totally here for it.
Edited: hit submit before I finished because I'm on mobile and dumb.
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They don't. Dissociative seizures is just another name for PNES. Literally nothing shows up on an EEG.
There is such a thing as frontal lobe seizures, which can cause weird behavior. And complex partials (which are now called focal seizures.) But that shit actually does show up on an EEG.
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You can have a normal EEG and active seizure activity. And the really neat thing about frontal lobe seizures is a lot of people who have them do not realize they have epilepsy. So frontal lobe epilepsy is really hard to diagnose since it looks like symptoms for other things and will bring back normal EEG results.
Purple Bra
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Chelsea is home and looking pretty good for someone who desperately needed to stay in the hospital. And, of fucking course, she has to explain her "rare chronic illnesses" to her home health care team. Also #bedridden
She also posted an ambulance picture from her trip home on Instagram yesterday with the usual "I'm too complex" bullshit excuse for why her ass got sent home. But also the hospitals and rehabs are too full or too understaffed because covid.
And because I love a good powerlevel, here's Lonna / chronicboymom.619 talking about how she also got told she's too complex.
She also posted an ambulance picture from her trip home on Instagram yesterday with the usual "I'm too complex" bullshit excuse for why her ass got sent home. But also the hospitals and rehabs are too full or too understaffed because covid.
And because I love a good powerlevel, here's Lonna / chronicboymom.619 talking about how she also got told she's too complex.
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lol pretty ageist but ok.
now shes being ableist.
The blatant sexual frustration.
I hope he wasn't an epileptic and she's using herself as inspiration fuel for them. She sounds like the same people munchies hate that say: just use EOs, take X supplement, try weed, try paleo bro... Chelsea: just listen to music bro lol.
You and your mom figured out you have brain damage but no scan could and said your brain is completely normal.
Those are from antidepressant withdrawal.
Unironically kill yourself.
She didn't shower/bathe for over a month and a week.
I AM TOO COMPLEX, I AM TOO COMPLEX! Guise did you know she's too complex?
Translation: I poop on the bed and make my mom clean it up.
now shes being ableist.
The blatant sexual frustration.
I hope he wasn't an epileptic and she's using herself as inspiration fuel for them. She sounds like the same people munchies hate that say: just use EOs, take X supplement, try weed, try paleo bro... Chelsea: just listen to music bro lol.
You and your mom figured out you have brain damage but no scan could and said your brain is completely normal.
Those are from antidepressant withdrawal.
Unironically kill yourself.
She didn't shower/bathe for over a month and a week.
I AM TOO COMPLEX, I AM TOO COMPLEX! Guise did you know she's too complex?
Translation: I poop on the bed and make my mom clean it up.
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Not to get all MATI, but it's annoying af to see Chelsea waste multiple rehab placements when most places are always (even pre-COVID) desperately short of spots. Gee, I can't imagine why they'd want some lovely older lady with a broken hip instead of a 30-something pretending to have seizures.
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I look forward to the usual eagle eyed amongst you picking this video to pieces.
"That shade of door frame paint is part of a one off bulk purchase in the 1990s by the state of California during the great medical soap opera set shortage. Only one such set still exists and is within driving distance of Chealseas home if she hired a van and slapped some ambulance stickers on it. She was never in hospital, she just purchased one of those experience packages where she gets to spend the day on a soap opera set"
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She's so entitled and hateful to these older people. It's gross.
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A lovely older lady with a broken hip who’s trying to get better.
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Or deserving of a bit of care after a lifetime of hard work. Imagine being told your mother cant go to a care home because all the beds have been taken by Chelseas.
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discombobulated
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Not just the lovely older lady - they'd also prefer to take the cantankerous, demanding old cunt that has something to say about everything.
I am the Muffin Maker
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Who can get better.
Rehab can't take a patient they can't fix. 80 yo grandma is going to be up and out and back to her bridge games in a few months.
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She should be in inpatient psych but she'll piss her pants if you mention the psychological nature of it.
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The thing about inpatient therapy and DBT is that you have to actually TRY and want to get better for it to work. She would just be a waste of space at any inpatient rehab, like she is everywhere else
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Exactly. You can give them all the tools in the world, but DBT requires you to look at your thought reality test it and finding it "irrational" you must alter it to be "rational." It requires someone to actually want to change and face the fact they need to change and it is obvious she is incapable of that.
That's why disorders like hers are so hard to treat. If someone has schizohrenia they can be given drugs to lessen hallucinations, mood stabilizers can help bi-polar people, but personality disorders and such are who that person is so they must change themselves.