Inactive Lindsay Kantha Souvannarath / Heretics on Holiday - Failed Halifax Mass Shooter & Asian Nazi Fetishist. Sentenced to life in jail.

Dynastia said:
Serial killers seem to do better than spree shooters for some weird reason.
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At least prolific serial killers had to navigate society to some degree. Also if you do mess with one, you'd probably better kill them. They have long memories.

Spree killers are usually pretty pathetic outside that one "shining" moment in their lives when they had a gun and a bunch of unarmed people.
 
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Artard said:
At a certain point we could demand that every exceptional individual present a Certificate of Having Exchanged Their V-Card. There's not much point to it, even if an ex-bf (one of whom I've heard from, or that's what he said he was. Nothing of interest was said.) should appear and "confirm" it one way or another. If it's a central part of her pathological behavior, it's more deeply psychological than someone like Kent or Baraka or Elliot Rodger who made their virginity public (posthumously in Elliot's case) and a central part of their lolcowitivity.
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I think it's a pretty big reach to consider her an "incel/loveshy". Just because someone shows some of the same psychological traits as our "incel/loveshy" friends, doesn't mean she identified with them or operates under the same pretense. In my view, I see her more in the general misanthropic, shy and angry edge-lord. She only got pissed about other couples and all that after her Russian Nazi boyfriend dumped her for someone else. She was definitely cute enough that I'm sure plenty of dudes online and irl tried to get close to her.

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Asians, especially Laotians are not that uncommon in Northern Illinois, especially if you live around Chicago.

The guys around her probably picked up on some "Kathy Bates-ish" vibes coming from her and avoided her like the plague. Nobody likes the thought of getting stabbed when their back is turned, except for internet edgelords.
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Oh no, plenty of dudes love the crazy chicks.
 
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supdup said:
Oh no, plenty of dudes love the crazy chicks.
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She seems like constant drama given what we've seen of her internet footprint. Always banned, most of her presence dripping with edge. Personally it's my experience that relationships with episodic crazy can last a lot longer than with a steady stream of crazy. If someone is already fed up with your shit you're going to get dumped unless you have some quality time to make up for it and let them calm down.

"You know I'm glad you tripped about my sister texting me cause I'm still mad about yesterday's public nazi chimpout and I see you decided to wear your retarded hot topic combat boots with red laces again GTFO" Really even among teenage edgelords she's not likely to meet a lot of people she's compatible with. Her nazi talk alone would limit her mostly to the rare white supremacist who dates asians.
 
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"The parents say their son was bullied all his life. They say he suffered from anxiety, and they believe her sought acceptance online."

I guess if you tell a bullied white kid that they're Hitler's special little boy and the forerunner to the Ubermensch, they'll do anything for you. Like take part in a poorly planned potential mass murder.

It's very unfortunate for the family, really. But I also have questions. If they knew he was horribly bullied and suffered from anxiety, was he getting therapy of any sort? Did he have a real-life support system, or just his 2edge Nazinternet buddies? Was he an only child (im assuming so, but bare with me), and if not did his siblings see any warning signs? Sometimes siblings know more than parents do, especially when it comes to personal issues or internet interests.
It would be nice if anything in depth was written about his mental state/issues, his alleged past bullying issues, and anything that could have been seen as a warning sign other than online resources. But most articles with him focus on his family's grief or how he was a gentle soul. Like, yes of course his family is sad, they lost their son. But it's not about them? It's about him and his friends plotting mass murder.

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""I'm just telling my experience that until you walk in someone's shoes you can't judge them,” said Cody."
I think people can make judgements of those who wanted to gun down innocent people in order to get edgy internet cred.
 
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A link to his obit:

http://www.rawalker.ca/book-of-memories/2064968/Gamble-James/obituary.php

It's clear no one comes out of this whole mess unscathed. Kid dead, two others facing life sentences, 3 families/friends etc. shocked, stunned and horrified.

Given I live here, I am closely watching the chatter and keeping updated on the whole thing. I will be going to some of the proceedings next month.

I know that the lad who died will be referred to a fair amount, but I doubt there will be much by way of his medical/psych history introduced. Unless the two on trial say it was all his doing and his idea and prosecution will need to bring in evidence to show his mental state allowed him to be coerced.

But I think the subject of our thread will be proven to be the mastermind. The two guys probably just thought they would get laid out of it.

But who knows, lots to be learned. The main thing is no innocent people died. Halifax would have not been ready for something like that. They could have killed a LOT of people. Assuming they were not bumbling buffoons and had weapons capable of firing many rounds quickly.

I will be very interested to learn about their arms cache. Its obvious she didn't bring any with her. So if there is a huge stockpile of arms, that will be news in itself. How two 19 year olds were outfitted with the means to go to war and inflict serious carnage in our hick little city.
 
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LiveFromNS said:
I will be very interested to learn about their arms cache. Its obvious she didn't bring any with her. So if there is a huge stockpile of arms, that will be news in itself. How two 19 year olds were outfitted with the means to go to war and inflict serious carnage in our hick little city.
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That's a good point as well. I'm not sure how gun laws are in Canada, but even here a teenager having 3(?) rifles is still somewhat unusual. I live in one of the upper-southern states in the US, and usually at that age a kid has maybe one rifle of his own to hunt with and then he can use his dad's as alternates. But on their own? It's strange. (this is anecdotal, obv, it may be different with other people here)
While living with his parents too. What went wrong there? You'd think they'd have noticed.
How did he pay for it, did Lindsay help? How did Lindsay convince them to do it if she is the "mastermind"? (the power of pussy)

Another thing was his father being his 'best friend'. Maybe he thought he was the kid's best friend, but he might have known more about his life or state of mind if he really was. He was completely silent during the interview.

Thank you for the obit link, btw, as well as keeping up with the proceedings up close.

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So he did have a sibling! Wonder why they're never mentioned or asked for comment?
 
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That's a good point as well. I'm not sure how gun laws are in Canada, but even here a teenager having 3(?) rifles is still somewhat unusual. I live in one of the upper-southern states in the US, and usually at that age a kid has maybe one rifle of his own to hunt with and then he can use his dad's as alternates. But on their own? It's strange. (this is anecdotal, obv, it may be different with other people here)
While living with his parents too. What went wrong there? You'd think they'd have noticed.
How did he pay for it, did Lindsay help? How did Lindsay convince them to do it if she is the "mastermind"? (the power of pussy)

Another thing was his father being his 'best friend'. Maybe he thought he was the kid's best friend, but he might have known more about his life or state of mind if he really was. He was completely silent during the interview.

Thank you for the obit link, btw, as well as keeping up with the proceedings up close.
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It depends on where you are in Canada. Contrary to popular belief guns are about as common in Canada as the united states but they will primarily be owned by rural people, in urban areas it will be very uncommon and looked upon with suspicion. Nonetheless owning a rifle wouldn't be seen as particularly abnormal (although someone under 30 in an urban area owning multiple rifles definitely would be). Gun laws are about what democrats want them to be in Canada (that is lax but sane)
 
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historical-pharmaceutical said:
That's a good point as well. I'm not sure how gun laws are in Canada, but even here a teenager having 3(?) rifles is still somewhat unusual. I live in one of the upper-southern states in the US, and usually at that age a kid has maybe one rifle of his own to hunt with and then he can use his dad's as alternates. But on their own? It's strange. (this is anecdotal, obv, it may be different with other people here)
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We just don't have the mass amount of gun dealers in Canada. Other than Canadian Tire, I am not sure where I would go if I wanted a gun.

Firearms are just not utilized here in a mass shooting as much as in US. Sure we have typical murders by handgun, Toronto seems to have a fair amount of gun incidents. And Vancouver with the Asian gangs and shit.

So, yeah, there have been a few mass shootings in Canada, but like 1 every 5 years or something. Ecole Polytechnique is only one that comes to my mind to be honest. Oh yes, and the two RCMP multiple killings in Mayerthorpe and Moncton. But those were guys who hated cops. The EP guy was an ER/Kent type I believe. He killed all women.

So, yeah, anything more than a couple handguns and a rifle or shotgun or two will be a WTF type of thing I am pretty sure.

If these guys got these guns, I can't see them all being obtained through legal channels. Unless they knew people who were into firearms in a big way.

It will be interesting as and when it all comes out, no doubt about it. And I will bring as much info as I can here.
 
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LiveFromNS said:
I will be very interested to learn about their arms cache. Its obvious she didn't bring any with her. So if there is a huge stockpile of arms, that will be news in itself. How two 19 year olds were outfitted with the means to go to war and inflict serious carnage in our hick little city.
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I'd love to know that too, considering it's more or less illegal to do so in these parts without a permit.
 
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You can get a permit for mass shootings in canada? This makes sense because if you outright ban spree shootings then only criminals can go on spree shootings.
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Yeah, it's been like that for a while. I remember when the police here held an even that traded unlicensed (and licensed) guns for cash. I get the feeling these guys may have not registered them prior, which if true, could add some more charges against them.
 
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I am familiar with the CTV reporter and she is a good one.

Here is her 25 minute interview with the parents of the deceased boy. I have yet to watch it.

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=722426&binId=1.1145463&playlistPageNum=1

Also she has been tweeting about SIRT (Serious Incident Response Team) and it appears they are upping their release of their report due to her story. Here are her tweets:
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LiveFromNS said:
The parents of the lad who killed himself the nite before the intended massacre spoke to local TV today. Here is link to story and video:

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/untold-s...ing-plotter-warn-of-internet-s-harm-1.2599888
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Thanks for posting the link.

These people are seething with pain. I feel for them.

Probably not really productive to address any of their claims about how the internet corrupted their Columbine-idolizing retarded son, they're all coming from a place that must be just horrible.

I do have to say that it sounds peculiar that the parents were taken away from the scene -- I mean if you're in a hostage situation, it would make sense to keep them on hand for negotiations -- but I don't know anything of the layout of the area, what the police knew, etc. They're obviously being circumspect in revealing what information they had at the time. It seems like all it will take is an officer saying something to the effect of, "He told us he had trapped the house & area like James Holmes did in Colorado" and everyone will say "Oh okay, never mind, good work guys" and forget about it. Well except the parents.
 
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Ok, here is a 10 minute interview with the RCMP about their side:

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=723068&binId=1.1145463&playlistPageNum=1

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I do have to say that it sounds peculiar that the parents were taken away from the scene -- I mean if you're in a hostage situation, it would make sense to keep them on hand for negotiations -- but I don't know anything of the layout of the area, what the police knew, etc. They're obviously being circumspect in revealing what information they had at the time. It seems like all it will take is an officer saying something to the effect of, "He told us he had trapped the house & area like James Holmes did in Colorado" and everyone will say "Oh okay, never mind, good work guys" and forget about it. Well except the parents.
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Yeah, they may have been approaching it like a James Holmes scenario where the place was wired or had explosives. Its possible they might have thought others were in there. All very hard to say, but in a situation like that what is proper procedure? This wasn't a guy threatening to shoot himself, but more of a potential mass killer who may have been ready to go out in style.

The SIRT report will be a great read. As soon as it is available, I will post the link.

As for the parents, yeah, that is a very sad situation. They not only lost their son but have the unending turmoil of asking if they could have done more, added to the fact that there son was involved in a mass murder conspiracy. You have to feel for what they are going thru for sure. I hope all goes well for them when this fades a bit with the passage of time, at least in a public sense.
 
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Lindsay has a gift for attracting the crazies. Some guy posted a thread on /baphomet/ asking for their help in finding out which prison Lindsay was being held at, so he could write to her. Seemed sincere - the post also had a lot of powerlevelling about how she was his type and how his ex was insane.
 
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Le Bateleur said:
Lindsay has a gift for attracting the crazies. Some guy posted a thread on /baphomet/ asking for their help in finding out which prison Lindsay was being held at, so he could write to her. Seemed sincere - the post also had a lot of powerlevelling about how she was his type and how his ex was insane.
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ECFH in Dartmouth or NOVA Institution in Truro is most likely places. The Truro one has had two unexplained deaths recently:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...nova-institution-for-women-in-truro-1.3172015
 
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