Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Hollywood Hitler]

Member earlier in the thread when we were discussing how they were going to start vaccinating animals and pets against Covid. Remember how we lol'd at a 4chan meme coming to life (again)

Yeah about that

Maryland Zoo Prepares to Vaccinate Animals Against Covid-19 | The Maryland Zoo

BALTIMORE, MD – The Maryland Zoo in Baltimore will begin vaccinating specific species that have been proven to be susceptible to COVID-19 within the next few months. “We expect to receive the vaccine in the fall from the animal health company Zoetis, which has developed a vaccine specifically...

www.marylandzoo.org

They'll be rolling out mandatory vaccination for pet puppers and pussies. We all know it's coming.

"Scientists have discovered that pet owners are at risk from catching Covid from Fido. Here's how you can protect yourself and your beloved companion animal through accessing Pfizer's newly formulated animal mRNA vaccine. Also consider Merck's new vet AIDS pill as a preventative'.

You mean to tell me that vax shills have been taking dog medication the whole time?!

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

I'm shocked I haven't been mandated for the vax yet at work. Only reason/s why I think haven't yet is:

A: My work is in Florida.
B: We don't do just Fed work.
C: We are a subtractor of a subtractor.

I’m the same as you, and my company is quiet for now, but I don’t think A protects us. Because:

Central Florida aerospace workers protest federal COVID-19 vaccine mandate: report

Federal, aerospace contractors of Central Florida are planning to protest Monday against the federal workers COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

www.orlandosentinel.com

If NG is able to mandate in Florida, the rest of them can and will.

I don't see them planning on the destruction of much of the West, but I do see them keeping this in their back pocket like a Sampson option, to be used in situations like a Taiwan defeat.

I agree that the destruction of the Western *marketplace* isn’t a desire of the Chinese.

But what would happen if the West complies and gets the vast majority of their population injected with Part 1 of Something, and the Chinese then say “Hey Ameritards here’s a video of what happens to people injected with Part 1 when we infect them with Part 2“ and there we see hearts exploding and of course males rendered infertile and females rendered incapable of carrying to term.

And then they say “hey Ameritards...let’s negotiate.”

 

[fhqwhgads]

Are we still pretending that this is a dangerous pandemic?

I’m at work 5 days a week now. Pandemic is over.

Where I am, I think a lot of people still believe it's super deadly and serious. I've got coworkers who aren't visiting their elderly parents as much because they're afraid they'll kill them with asymptomatic coof, both in & out of work I'd say maybe 10-15% of people are still wearing masks -- not the worst, but there's no mandate in place currently. Got berated by a taxi driver for not wearing one, "I'm double-vaccinated, but I still want to make sure that I'm safe, so I'm wearing one even now", think he gave me a shit rating cos I didn't comply. All of the Uber and other similar services here have to wear them, and almost all comply.

Lots of people are still afraid to go out and frequent the few smaller businesses that are still left, so they will continue to go under. And the wealthy are buying up the leases for stores that were making a lot of money pre-pandemic but since have had to close down - sure, they'll lose money at the moment, because fewer people are confident in going out, but the idea is that when things get 'back to normal', they'll be raking it in. Meanwhile, the former store owner has probably had to go bankrupt.

The transfer of wealth to the rich has been abominable.

 

[The Great Citracett]

For their god is an all-forgiving and benevolent god:


Not a cult:

 

[teriyakiburns]

all that's missing is the fucking fedora

 

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I agree that the destruction of the Western *marketplace* isn’t a desire of the Chinese.

But what would happen if the West complies and gets the vast majority of their population injected with Part 1 of Something, and the Chinese then say “Hey Ameritards here’s a video of what happens to people injected with Part 1 when we infect them with Part 2“ and there we see hearts exploding and of course males rendered infertile and females rendered incapable of carrying to term.

And then they say “hey Ameritards...let’s negotiate.”

I would like to think that they wouldn't go public with it, we'd just start hearing about random terrorist bombings and odd coincidences in China that fuck them up constantly. A biolab here, a dam there (whoops, there goes 100 million Chinese people), etc etc.

If they did go public with it, again, I'd like to think the people out for Chinese blood would outpace any Karens or Marxist infiltrators in the US demanding we capitulate.

I also like to think that a bioweapon ransom demand like that would trigger MAD and the US / UK / Japan / etc would just nuke the everloving shit out of China for it, but, who knows?

In reality though? Biden would call a lid, no questions would be allowed, CNN would announce that it's all a conspiracy theory but in a completely unrelated event we're giving China Hawaii, Alaska, Taiwan and Japan, and anyone questioning that doens't wuv da science.

 

[borsabil]

I would like to think that they wouldn't go public with it, we'd just start hearing about random terrorist bombings and odd coincidences in China that fuck them up constantly. A biolab here, a dam there (whoops, there goes 100 million Chinese people), etc etc.

If they did go public with it, again, I'd like to think the people out for Chinese blood would outpace any Karens or Marxist infiltrators in the US demanding we capitulate.

I also like to think that a bioweapon ransom demand like that would trigger MAD and the US / UK / Japan / etc would just nuke the everloving shit out of China for it, but, who knows?

In reality though? Biden would call a lid, no questions would be allowed, CNN would announce that it's all a conspiracy theory but in a completely unrelated event we're giving China Hawaii, Alaska, Taiwan and Japan, and anyone questioning that doens't wuv da science.

It would be trivially easy to engineer a Covid variant that would bypass the spike antibodies. We would have no way of telling if the variant was engineered or just evolved naturally. In theory this shouldn't mean that the variant would lead to a mass death event, in theory the vaccinated would be no worse off than the unvaccinated who have no natural immunity, in theory.

Except for 2 risks. First if the vaccinated, because of their exposure to spike protein only, and not the whole virus, were unable to mount a proper immune response when exposed. There is strong evidence that this may be the case. In such an event a variant that can completely bypass the s-protein neutralising antibodies would result in a far higher death rate than even the original Wuhan strain. Even worse would be if they have lost all cross immunity to Covid because of the vaccines. This is a risk we're running bioweapon or no bioweapon.

The second risk is the one that should be worrying everyone. If the Chinese or some other state actor can cook up a variant of Covid or some other Coronavirus that reacts with the spike antibodies triggering ADE in the vaccinated. It's far from certain if this is even possible, To fabricate a virus that would cause ADE the new variant or virus would need to treat the S-antibodies as entirely binding. For this to happen B-cell recall needs to be present in the vaccinated. The evidence seems to suggest that this isn't the case. The antibody titres seem to be falling far too quickly in the vaccinated for B-cell recall to be present

Best case, and probably the most likely scenario, is that the vaccinated will be fine as long as they don't take booster jabs. But we should all remember that Covid is not a natural zoonotic virus, it WAS cooked up in a lab. There has been many years of research and thousands of man hours gone in to making this virus. So for sure it's perfectly rational to wonder if there might be a Part 2 to the story.

 

[jje100010001]

But what would happen if the West complies and gets the vast majority of their population injected with Part 1 of Something, and the Chinese then say “Hey Ameritards here’s a video of what happens to people injected with Part 1 when we infect them with Part 2“ and there we see hearts exploding and of course males rendered infertile and females rendered incapable of carrying to term.

And then they say “hey Ameritards...let’s negotiate.”

This would probably be back room talks, you give up Taiwan and the SCS, we won’t release Wuflu 3.0 with special targeting, etc.

No one would suspect a thing, except when US ships never enter the West Pacific again and Taiwan falls without any American involvement.

That being said, if the Americans don’t comply, a few videos of jabbies falling dead released cryptically into the public might nudge them closer to a settlement.

 

[Art Kassul]

Colin Powell dies from COVID-19 complications at 84

Powell had battled other ailments, including Parkinson’s.

www.cbs17.com

JUST IN - Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell is dead. He died at the age of 84. He died of COVID-19 despite being vaccinated twice, according to his family.

"He was fully vaccinated. We want to thank the medical staff at Walter Reed National Medical Center for their caring treatment," Powell's family said.

 

[UVB-76]

We would have no way of telling if the variant was engineered or just evolved naturally.

Except that a lab variant would have no natural genetic lineage linking it to a parent strain or other "siblings" that diverged.

 

[borsabil]

Double jabbed, died of Covid.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Colin Powell dies from COVID-19 complications at 84

Powell had battled other ailments, including Parkinson’s.

www.cbs17.com

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He died of COVID-19 despite being vaccinated twice, according to his family.

Looks like he wasn't fully vaccinated then.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Colin Powell didn't die of COVID, stop believing the lies! He was done in from complications related to Anthrax exposure from the vial of Iraqi WMD he showed at the security council.

 

[borsabil]

Looks like he wasn't fully vaccinated then.

Good point. No booster he doesn't count.

Also he had cancer or Parkinson's or something. When sick old vaccinated people die of Covid it's because they're sick and old it has nothing to do with Covid!

Except that a lab variant would have no natural genetic lineage linking it to a parent strain or other "siblings" that diverged.

Take the Delta variant, run it through human cell tissue to gain the function you want, infect human 'volunteers', stand back and enjoy the show.

We would have absolutely no way of confirming through genomic sequencing if any new strain was a natural evolution of Delta or a lab created one. Both would have the expected viral lineage, there has effectively been no interruption of the human to human transmission chain.

Of course a brand new virus would be a different story.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Looks like he wasn't fully vaccinated then.

You are only truly vaccinated when you have accepted our Lord and Savior Fauci into your heart (the myocarditis is your heart making space for him.) If you die of covid, we know you weren't a true believer. Some part of you must have not had enough faith, or else Fauci would have saved you. He doesn't waste his power on non-believers, or even those will the seeds of doubt.

 

[jje100010001]

Another interesting 4chin thread, this time discussing the problems with the mRNA lipids with spike protein data spreading beyond the deltoid:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/343850389/

A postulation that in extreme cases, cells with the spike protein data may potentially still be present in your body up to a decade from now:

Once these signs are made they are permanent, sort of, this is where the analogy breaks down. All the atoms in your body are replaced about once a decade. Even your bones are constantly re-structured by osteoclasts and osteoblasts, so every 10 years you have entirely different atoms making up those bones. Even cells that generally don't replicate or die until you do like neurons and muscle (muscle cells themselves get bigger when you work out, mostly, you don't get new muscle cells although nothing is ever 100%) constantly replace their constituent parts. The MHC displaying the product the factories are making will stay embedded in the cell wall until that section of the membrane is replaced due to other natural process (e.g. endocytosis.) This means that people who end up with persistent neurological or cardiac side effects may have them for years, until most of the signs stating the cell is making spike protein are torn down. For neurons in the brain, that could be years, not to mention the fact that in the mean time, the immune system is actively trying to kill off any of those cells, often successfully.

And issues with the adenovirus approach in J&J and AZ:

>Due to the higher selectivity of the adenovector vs. the lipid nanoparticles, I would expect the AZ vaccine to be less harmful (though still full of problems). Am I right in assuming that, OP?

I can only speculate but that seems sound to me. One of the biggest problems aside from the spike protein simply being on otherwise healthy cells (which the viral vector vaccines and the mRNA vaccines share as a characteristic) is the insane lipid solubility of the mRNA encapsulation. They are free to move wherever, while the adenovirus vaccine is limited to cells it's able to bind to (I'm not sure of it's binding site off the top of my head.) The problem would come it the adenovirus happens to preferentially infecting and causing an immune response in a tissue that caused detrimental effects. Such as epithelial lining of blood vessels as may be the case with adenovirus as a carrier.

The adenovirus used in AZ and J&J is rhesus monkey adenovirus, it seems that it infects a few more cell types in humans than in rhesus monkeys, which explains all these deaths from the adenovirus infecting system critical cells which it wasnt supposed to do. The russian sputnik also use adenovirus, but they use human adenovirus, and their vaccine has a fraction of the deaths that AZ and J&J have. All vaccines that generate spike protein are dangerous though.

@borsabil
@EyelessMC

At this point it does feel like if you must take a vaccine and are pressured by various external forces with no route of escape, try to get an exemption until you can at least get one that doesn't turn your body into a spike protein factory.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Someone on the FDA take the right decision althought too little too late about the Moderna jab for teenagers.

FDA Delays Moderna Vax For Adolescents–Cites Side Effect

The FDA announced it is delaying its decision on the Moderna vaccine being used on adolescents. The reason they cited ...

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FDA Delays Moderna Vax For Adolescents–Cites Side Effect​

The FDA announced it is delaying its decision on the Moderna vaccine being used on adolescents.

The reason they cited is myocarditis, a heart condition that has become a side effect in some from this vaccine.

From The Washington Examiner:

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced Friday it would delay its decision on administration of the Moderna vaccine to adolescents, citing concerns the shot may lead to a heightened risk of a rare heart condition.
The FDA has not yet determined if the risk is higher for adolescents, but the agency is planning to review the data further before extending the vaccine’s eligibility, according to the Wall Street Journal.
“I think people can be reassured that the risk of myocarditis with an mRNA vaccine is low, it appears to be balanced between the different products,” Paul Burton, Moderna’s chief medical officer, told the outlet.
Myocarditis is the inflammation of the heart muscle, with symptoms including chest pain, shortness of breath, and feelings of having an abnormal heartbeat. The inflammation typically occurs a few days after the second COVID-19 vaccine injection, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention .

Finland, Sweden, and Denmark have all done the same.

From Reuters:

Finland on Thursday paused the use of Moderna’s (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger males due to reports of a rare cardiovascular side effect, joining Sweden and Denmark in limiting its use.

Edit: Looks like Aspirin is the new horse dewormer.

Is Aspirin the New Horse Dewormer?

Aspirin is one of those drugs that has been around forever. It is commonly used as a pain reliever, anti-inflammatory, and blood thinner. Surprisingly it may also have benefits in treating COVID. A paper in Anesthesia and Analgesia published last ...

www.americanthinker.com

October 18, 2021

Is Aspirin the New Horse Dewormer?​

By Brian C.Joondeph, MD

Aspirin is one of those drugs that has been around forever. It is commonly used as a pain reliever, anti-inflammatory, and as a blood thinner. Surprisingly it may also have benefit in treating COVID.
A paper in Anesthesia and Analgesia published last spring titled, “Aspirin use is associated with decreased mechanical ventilation, intensive care unit admission, and in-hospital mortality in hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019.”
This was a retrospective, observational study of adult patients admitted to multiple hospitals in the U.S. between March and July 2020, in the early days of COVID. The primary outcome addressed by the researchers from George Washington University was the need for mechanical ventilation, which then, and still now, carries an extremely high chance of never leaving the ICU alive.
This was not a gold standard randomized prospective clinical trial. That would not be feasible in this situation since study patients were already hospitalized and critically ill. Remember in the early days, one needed to be extremely ill before even being admitted to the hospital rather than being sent home until sick enough to return and go straight to the ICU.
But the results were impressive. As reported last week by the Jerusalem Post,

The team investigated more than 400 COVID patients from hospitals across the United States who take aspirin unrelated to their COVID disease, and found that the treatment reduced the risk of several parameters by almost half: reaching mechanical ventilation by 44%, ICU admissions by 43%, and overall in-hospital mortality by 47%.

Why would aspirin be helpful for COVID, a respiratory disease? What if COVID is more than simply a lung disease or pneumonia? COVID is actually thought to be a microvascular disease causing blood clots, as described in the medical journal Circulation,

Although most patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) present with a mild upper respiratory tract infection and then recover, some infected patients develop pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, multi-organ failure, and death. Clues to the pathogenesis of severe COVID-19 may lie in the systemic inflammation and thrombosis observed in infected patients. We propose that severe COVID-19 is a microvascular disease in which coronavirus infection activates endothelial cells, triggering exocytosis, a rapid vascular response that drives microvascular inflammation and thrombosis.

Note the thrombosis aspect, blood clots forming in the lungs and elsewhere in the body. Aspirin, as a blood thinner, reduces the risk of blood clots, explaining its potential benefit for COVID.

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For the same reason, the American Heart Association recommends,

If you have had a heart attack or stroke, your doctor may want you to take a daily low dose of aspirin to help prevent another. Aspirin is part of a well-established treatment plan for patients with a history of heart attack or stroke.

Add the appropriate caveat, which I would echo, “You should not take daily low-dose aspirin on your own without talking to your doctor. The risks and benefits vary for each person.”

 

[borsabil]

Another interesting 4chin thread, this time discussing the problems with the mRNA lipids with spike protein data spreading beyond the deltoid:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/343850389/

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A postulation that in extreme cases, cells with the spike protein data may potentially still be present in your body up to a decade from now:

And issues with the adenovirus approach in J&J and AZ:



@borsabil
@EyelessMC

At this point it does feel like if you must take a vaccine and are pressured by various external forces with no route of escape, try to get an exemption until you can at least get one that doesn't turn your body into a spike protein factory.

The only way to know if this is a possibility is to conduct regular D-dimer screening on the vaccinated and compare to a control. If there is systemic storage of the spike it will lead to ongoing chronic inflammation depending on where it's concentrated.

I'm totally convinced that the massive pressure to get vaccinated right fucking now, when the worst effects of the pandemic are clearly behind us, is only about reducing the number of unvaccinated so that if/when we do see a jump in the number of cancers or heart disease it can be hand waived away. Effectively having a large control group makes that a lot harder to sustain.

The vaccines are at best a short acting antibody therapy that mitigates the worst symptoms of Covid with potentially horrific side effects. If we can work this out by reading the publicly available data governments for sure know this is the case. The ongoing, almost hysterical push to vaccinate literally everyone, even groups who are at zero risk from serious disease, tells me that they don't just suspect that there's a mountain of shit about to drop they're absolutely certain of it.

 

[NJBear]

 

[Tookie]

bogleech

The pandemic decimated workers so hard that there literally isn't enough longshoreman to unload boats which is leading to an internal collapse of the supply chain. It seems that ignoring covid because...

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Found this particullar dumb reblog
The supply chain wasn't disrupted by the massive layoff and absurd restriction and strike rather than the 'mass death' they claim to be?

Not many longshoreman are going to be in high-risk groups for COVID. I'm pretty sure their regular sky-high accident rate is a way higher threat to them than the coof.