Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

yup. sister is younger by 4 years, and all her friends are fat as fuck and look about forty.
whereas mine, who coincidentally aren’t knuckleheads, are slim and look the same as they did about 8 years ago.
people’s faces change a little and stuff, and tiredness and such will draw you a little bit, but my god the fatties look like 40-50 year old single mothers and they are only 26.
fat skin, when combined with smoking just looks terrible, greyish, and starts to hang. a younger fatter person looks right as their collagen fills it out- actually the very few people who are like life long fatties- i know one girl whose always been a big fat girl but she’s one of the most beautiful people i know, her body and face is built to be fat and can handle the extra weight.
it’s the ones who used to be thin and are fat because they eat too much food, of shit quality. if they ate the same but less they’d probably look shit still, as food is crap quality anyway, and the lack of exercise..
-another few things that make you look terrible-
wearing shitty glasses/ i mean those nasty little thin rectangle ones, they don’t quite anyone’s face.

if you’re a man, and properly balding, shave it.

don’t just wear miserable depressing clothes just because you’re over 25.
similarly don’t wear the same style of clothes just because you’ve always worn them, it’s not 2005 any more and clothes were shit then to add to it.
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Hmm, wonder to what extent big rolly Tube is starving himself, given as he is a good bit less fat than he was.

Weird cos you'd think oestrogen would make you appear a bit fatter? He must be on quite a regimen with that taken into account too.. then again, when he's not in full control of what he looks like on camera, (TUBE POWAH speech, BBC Lols) he still looks pretty huge.

So... if he is already on hormones and is already scheduled for whatever it is, what is he complaining about waiting lists for? Exactly how fucking quick does he need things to be?
i’ve been waiting on results and appointments for an actually pressing, dangerous problem for months now, trying to get cardio stuff sorted and its been going on for over a year.

Anecdotally people seem to move through treatment pretty fast for troon shit...I wonder if the waiting list thing we keep hearing bleating about is actually being thrown at the less convincing specimens that come in...the visibly neurotic faddy kids, or those with weird, obviously coaxing parents.. as a bit of a speed bump to lessen the chance of mass NHS suing before the decade's out.
Oh he is definitely restricting again - has visibly lost a shit tonne of weight. He was so barrel chested before which he thought looked ripped… but was really just like excess chub. He had done restrictive dieting before, as outlined in food vid…. His weight fluctuates a lot. You can see throughout the years in the videos



Anecdotally people seem to move through treatment pretty fast for troon shit...I wonder if the waiting list thing we keep hearing bleating about is actually being thrown at the less convincing specimens that come in...the visibly neurotic faddy kids

Lol lol lol lol god I hope so
 
yup. sister is younger by 4 years, and all her friends are fat as fuck and look about forty.
whereas mine, who coincidentally aren’t knuckleheads, are slim and look the same as they did about 8 years ago.
people’s faces change a little and stuff, and tiredness and such will draw you a little bit, but my god the fatties look like 40-50 year old single mothers and they are only 26.
fat skin, when combined with smoking just looks terrible, greyish, and starts to hang. a younger fatter person looks right as their collagen fills it out- actually the very few people who are like life long fatties- i know one girl whose always been a big fat girl but she’s one of the most beautiful people i know, her body and face is built to be fat and can handle the extra weight.
it’s the ones who used to be thin and are fat because they eat too much food, of shit quality. if they ate the same but less they’d probably look shit still, as food is crap quality anyway, and the lack of exercise..
-another few things that make you look terrible-
wearing shitty glasses/ i mean those nasty little thin rectangle ones, they don’t quite anyone’s face.

if you’re a man, and properly balding, shave it.

don’t just wear miserable depressing clothes just because you’re over 25.
similarly don’t wear the same style of clothes just because you’ve always worn them, it’s not 2005 any more and clothes were shit then to add to it.
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I think you are getting this wrong and both fatness and accelerated aging are a product of unhealthy living, rather than fat being something that ages you. Losing fat in your face is actually something that ages you; the youthful look is more plump and filled out. You gradually lose more and more fat volume in your face as you age (although the extent varies obviously) and the fat pads under the skin atrophy and break up:

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British people in general seem to be more prone to aging badly because of unhealthy lifestyle factors, whether they are fat or not. Not sure why.
 
I think you are getting this wrong and both fatness and accelerated aging are a product of unhealthy living, rather than fat being something that ages you. Losing fat in your face is actually something that ages you; the youthful look is more plump and filled out. You gradually lose more and more fat volume in your face as you age (although the extent varies obviously) and the fat pads under the skin atrophy and break up:

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British people in general seem to be more prone to aging badly because of unhealthy lifestyle factors, whether they are fat or not. Not sure why.
“British people in general seem to be more prone to aging badly because of unhealthy lifestyle factors, whether they are fat or not. Not sure why.”

—> I think it’s inbreeding. And lack of exercise/sunlight. I have never looked this up…. It’s my personal anglophobic hunch.
Also in general brits are so pale and sallow and like…. Untoned and saggy? Even if thin

Ollys fat face does make him relatively youthful and feminine looking I guess
 
I think you are getting this wrong and both fatness and accelerated aging are a product of unhealthy living, rather than fat being something that ages you. Losing fat in your face is actually something that ages you; the youthful look is more plump and filled out. You gradually lose more and more fat volume in your face as you age (although the extent varies obviously) and the fat pads under the skin atrophy and break up:

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British people in general seem to be more prone to aging badly because of unhealthy lifestyle factors, whether they are fat or not. Not sure why.
i guess people who are also fat are unhealthy in other ways.
but fat does probably age you in that it puts extra pressure on you.
it’s cold damp dark polluted stressful in the UK and there’s a lot of crap processed food around.
that’ll do it.
but Tube doesn’t live that life.

@narcissistic injury no you’re right that’s about the size of it, we are pretty fucking ugly. i’m not too proud to say it. there’s a high percentage of quite bad specimens. the best we can do is looking a bit like david bowie (man or woman) and even he was ugly handsome.

i was gonna say no about the inbreeding but.. it’s a very crowded very small island.

wow, it’s freeing to admit we are hideous.
 
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i guess people who are also fat are unhealthy in other ways.
but fat does probably age you in that it puts extra pressure on you.
it’s cold damp dark polluted stressful in the UK and there’s a lot of crap processed food around.
that’ll do it.
but Tube doesn’t live that life.

@narcissistic injury no you’re right that’s about the size of it, we are pretty fucking ugly. i’m not too proud to say it. there’s a high percentage of quite bad specimens. the best we can do is looking a bit like david bowie (man or woman) and even he was ugly handsome.

i was gonna say no about the inbreeding but.. it’s a very crowded very small island.

wow, it’s freeing to admit we are hideous.

Thank you for this. I quite literally almost spit my coffee.
 
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Breast augmentation, facial feminization, or the snip? Idc but expect lots of fist shaking at the outrageous difficulty of getting elective surgeries served on a silver platter by the NHS.

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fuck political alliances. all my homies hate political alliances. all my homies are bourgeois art kids spamming soviet vibes online. imagine reaching out to the majority and forming coalitions with imperfect people to do democracy with them lol sounds lame. I am a very serious political actor and also a philosopher who says no debate

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our sex lmao

class, race lmao

Olly is a posh white fuck with an expensive education and a degree in a discipline that signals his class. He regurgitated his lectures badly but was trusted by many regardless because he looked and sounded like an archetypal philosophy guy. He moves like every trust fund baby calling for guillotines on the rich: desperately seeking underdog aesthetics while savaging actual underdogs who cross his Internet friends. But class! But race! But saying the words doesn't mean you understand them. This is just painting his side with positive buzzword soup while claiming that the enemy rejects the soup and is therefore bad.

Most women on Earth would balk at this obviously male person talking about "our sex," but he'd never consider that intersection.


The only serious criticism of the video that he addressed was that he didn't talk enough about Islam. He said the video was about racialized islamophobia in the West, so the religion itself was beyond its domain. No corrections to his claim that France and French Algeria banned the veil, which they didn't. There were many comments under the video pointing out the misinformation about France, too, so he must have deliberately ignored them.
Tbh I agree with Olly on the "no debate" thing for trans issues. He and his ilk remain men, regardless of what they snip off or bolt on to their body. What is there to debate?
 
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Nigga, are you speaking fax machine or what? Lol!

Isn't the sun one of the main things that ages you, though?
In moderation it is good for your health! Loved the avatar, by the way!

But on the topic at hand, some of the pictures in the OP genuinely scared me. Looks like a troon Joker or something of the sorts lol!
 
“British people in general seem to be more prone to aging badly because of unhealthy lifestyle factors, whether they are fat or not. Not sure why.”

—> I think it’s inbreeding. And lack of exercise/sunlight. I have never looked this up…. It’s my personal anglophobic hunch.
Also in general brits are so pale and sallow and like…. Untoned and saggy? Even if thin

Ollys fat face does make him relatively youthful and feminine looking I guess
Mostly it's the drinking. Drinking ruins your looks, it ages you, dehydrates you and bloats you, making your face both rougher and puffy (plus burst blood vessels from hypertension). It's also full of calories, which Brits normally won't compensate for with diet.

An average British person would normally be perceived as an alcoholic in the US - 4 pints of 5% lager would not be considered alarming to have on a Wednesday evening or Sunday daytime with friends. Diets are also important, and while there's lots of excellent British food, poor home ec education arguably caused by the lingering after effects of rationing and then poor work/life balance mean people end up both obese and malnourished. (Also the lack of nice climate encourages a sedentary lifestyle)

We have a word for the red faced middle aged fatties here - Gammons.

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Without getting too race sciencey here, although historic inbreeding comes into it, there's also several ethnic phenotypes that tend to not age well or be that attractive. You know how some Slavs look really Slavic? Same deal here.

Meet Borreby
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and Brunn:
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Facial averages tend to look more attractive than their consistent faces to here's some examples of Brunn if you think they look hot
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Basically there's a lot of Brits who don't start out looking all that good, and then we make it worse through culturally engrained lifestyle choices.

Before you think I'm completely self hating, there's plenty of attractive British people and also le 56% amerimutt
 
An average British person would normally be perceived as an alcoholic in the US - 4 pints of 5% lager would not be considered alarming to have on a Wednesday evening or Sunday daytime with friends. Diets are also important, and while there's lots of excellent British food, poor home ec education arguably caused by the lingering after effects of rationing and then poor work/life balance mean people end up both obese and malnourished. (Also the lack of nice climate encourages a sedentary lifestyle)

We have a word for the red faced middle aged fatties here - Gammons.

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Without getting too race sciencey here, although historic inbreeding comes into it, there's also several ethnic phenotypes that tend to not age well or be that attractive. You know how some Slavs look really Slavic? Same deal here.

Meet Borreby
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and Brunn:
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Facial averages tend to look more attractive than their consistent faces to here's some examples of Brunn if you think they look hot
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Basically there's a lot of Brits who don't start out looking all that good, and then we make it worse through culturally engrained lifestyle choices.

Before you think I'm completely self hating, there's plenty of attractive British people and also le 56% amerimutt
lmao at Birds of a feather lady getting lumped in with those dudes.
the end credits of that used to make me cry when i was kid, every single time
 
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Random thoughts in response to ew the British, as if:

Female borreby is quite pretty - she would run her own salon and be endlessly complaining about her layabout husband but she just hasnt the heart to leave the old sod.

People do love to binge drink here but it is a kind of generational thing with Milenials and Gen Z being more health focused.

The climate in the UK I would say is one of our main problems when it comes to lifestyle - however with the acceleration of climate change that will change in the next 15 years or so. When I was in Cali I often thought WOW this is what life could be like - the climate is idyllic. The same week I was there that mass shooting at a country festival (thousand oaks) happened and I was like hmm yeah I'll keep my shite climate.

Just a sidenote but slavic people are the most beautiful - they won the caucasian looks lottery
 
Female borreby is quite pretty - she would run her own salon and be endlessly complaining about her layabout husband but she just hasnt the heart to leave the old sod.

People do love to binge drink here but it is a kind of generational thing with Milenials and Gen Z being more health focused.

The climate in the UK I would say is one of our main problems when it comes to lifestyle - however with the acceleration of climate change that will change in the next 15 years or so. When I was in Cali I often thought WOW this is what life could be like - the climate is idyllic. The same week I was there that mass shooting at a country festival (thousand oaks) happened and I was like hmm yeah I'll keep my shite climate.
I think it's mostly confirmation bias. Joking aside, I don't think as a country we're that much uglier than other predominantly white countries. Major issues are terrible diet (and the resultant obesity and/or malnutrition), stress, lack of skincare, smoking and alcohol consumption, but that isn't unique. Most people I see out and about are fairly normal, and there are attractive people. There is also a not small population of Norf FCs and Silent Hill character rejects, but it's not a large percentage.

As for Ollie, he isn't ugly per se. He looked "fine" as a regular guy, just pale and doughy. I don't think he ever took physical fitness or diet seriously. He's always had a layer of flab, which is obvious in videos where he showed off his chest, and you cannot see any muscle definition. I think he's probably always had a high-ish body fat percentage. It looks like he shed some of the pounds in the past year but he's so chunky overall, even his bone structure, that he just looks "big" regardless. At least as a normal man he could work with that and get more chiseled. As a side note he also has small eyes and a big chin, and both of those traits are very unfeminine.
 
Gonna give this a listen now
"It's been so long since I've seen you..I'm wearing different flesh now!"
you dont say..
LOL I hate his voice. I mean I know he never sounded Geordie when he spoke in his normal voice, but at least he sounded like a regular posh fuck, god only knows what this voice is.

Ed///. LMFAO if you listen to nothing else, listen to that from 12.25, til 12.40
fuck me.
-finished it now. what even was that- Tube has literally nothing to say on any subject other than himself. and not even much on that. 'I read parts for an audiobook' utterly pointless. Rest of the podcast once he'd chuffed off was not much better. No tlk about musicals at all. surface level wittering. WHAT makes these people think hey are so interesting that people are just happy to hear that. What listenership are they bringing in?

Submediocrity just reproduces itself, once people are above a certain amount of subs and the algorithm favours them, and they just stop making actual content and it just self sustains?

Not looking forward to when the generation of people raised ON this get thier hands on the wheel.
Ever more shit to sift through looking for a grain of entertainment.
 
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Olly was on the latest episode of the "MusicalSplaining" podcast to shill Lindsay Ellis' new book that he narrated. Haven't listened to the podcast yet, not sure if I'll be able to make it through this one but according to others he's just as self-absorbed as always.
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I strongly, very strongly, suspect that Lindsay Ellis had Olly contracted into doing this ages ago (didn't he do the first book too?) and regrets it now. She doesnt seem to really speak to him at all publicly these days and has distanced herself on social media.
 
I’m listening to the podcast now. They are going on and on about “Abi’s skill” of having a man’s voice where required for a male character. Wow, yeah what an amazing skill. 🙄

Lindsay assumed after Olly’s trooning that he wouldn’t want to do it. But he was all gung ho. Perhaps, as per PennyAni’s theory, Lindsay was hoping he wouldn’t want to do it - but no such luck. Lindsay does say she hopes Olly does her future books too though.

Olly claims that the audio producer or whoever that recorded his voice was stunned by how Olly could weave in and out of his troon voice and his regular male voice. Again guys, Olly is a man, that’s why he sounds like one. It’s not rocket science. I don’t know much about Lindsay’s books but I would think it incredibly jarring to have female characters that sound like “Abigail.” Imagine listening to an audiobook and suddenly there’s, say, a 30 year old female character who inexplicably talks in that stupid strained falsetto.

Olly is bragging about the Kill James Bond, which he says is the biggest film podcast in Britain. Which I find insane but I guess it’s true. What’s going on in Britain that people are clamoring to hear three trannies discuss and make fun of James Bond? I would think there’d be several Siskel and Ebert type podcasts that would be of more interest?

Olly got some narcissistic supply in this podcast because Lindsay said Olly did a great job and contrasted Olly with the other dude who recorded voices, because the other dude mispronounced the character “Sol” as Saul instead of (I think) Soul as Lindsay intended. So they had to re-record a bunch.
 
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