Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[NationalBolshevik]

Geordie is more about the accent than anything else.

Nah not just the accent

 

[Karras Rising]

"wye aye man, the' divvint evon knar worra geordie is!"

 

[narcissistic injury]

"wye aye man, the' divvint evon knar worra geordie is!"
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No idea who they are. My first guess was the two white guys of s club 7

 

[AfghanBlue]

No idea who they are. My first guess was the two white guys of s club 7

A Geordie is just someone from the city of Newcastle and immediately surrounding area.
Like Scousers are from Liverpool and Cockneys are from East London.

Tube, in actual fact pointedly has got nothing to do with the area, other than having the word in his twitter handle, because he thinks its gives him some kind of politically convenient working class cache-

But like any of the very few people with real money in this part of the country, he was ensconced away from the oiks in the poshest boys private school in the area, sounds / looks like/ is a horrible little southern posh aristocratic piggie.

The above pictured guys are Ant and Dec, two lads from the area who have been on TV as a pair for like 25 years.
Actually always had a soft spot for them cos the saturday morning kids tv show they did late 90s/early2000s was funny as fuck tbf.

Despite being rich as fuck and very successful for a very long time they actually still have a strong affinity for the area and have represented it well, unlike Tube who seems to have no interest other than using the word Geordie for aforementioned self interested cache. Like all people of his class, he knows it would be suicide to too strongly associate with the north east, in terms of getting where he really wants to go.

Actually that picture of the infamous NUFC bellied fat guy is an illustrative case in point- football is massive here, and just as tube was releasing his Islamophobia video, the football club was bought, basically by the country of Saudi Arabia, making it now the richest sporting club in the world.

This was obviously huge news given the sums involved, Saudis record with everything Tube pertains to talk about- homophobia, womens rights, and of course, it would be extra topical being an Islamic run state.
Oh, and the massive corporate corruption on the part of sports governing bodies.

But Tube weirdly declined to make any mention of this, despite, as I mentioned it being both national and internationally significant news.
Why?
Dont really know. Probably, solely because it would spoil his carefully cultivated iM a Layyydee / occasional bimbo coomer look.

I mean it would be pertinent for someone who talks about what he talks about to mention anyway, but the fact he's supposedly a Geordie and didnt mention it is honestly baffling.
Must just be too wrapped up in ProjectTUBE.

 

[Photo of an orange]

Attacking Olly on being a fake Geordie is so dumb -- it's a brand, now, not a natural and place-born identity (sorry, real Geordies, whoever you are).

Lots of people accept Olly's self-identification as a woman based on his Mrs. Doubtfire act...and yet we're concerned about his Geordie act, on authenticity grounds? Really? Isn't the Mrs. Doubtfire stuff worse?

Look: I know people here don't agree with me but there are real "trans" folks. There are likely real "Geordies", too. I don't really care. It's easy to not be a jackass to those who can stay even somewhat consistent in their assumed identity, and not orbit their identity around a Patreon account.

I care when the obviously fake trans folks (like Olly) and fake Geordies (like Olly) bob to the surface of the zeitgeist, so obvious in their...LOOK AT ME, I HAVE AN IDENTITY WITHOUT ANY EFFORT...nonsense. And for profit and fame...with no self-reflection as the rich, white, privileged, college-educated, first-world man that he is, and remains. As a leftist, I am disgusted by Olly and his skinwalking appropriation.

That's all I have to say, except that at least Contrapoints has the dignity to blow his cash on drugs, instead of bad makeup artists and costumers.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Attacking Olly on being a fake Geordie is so dumb -- it's a brand, now, not a natural and place-born identity (sorry, real Geordies, whoever you are).

Wrong. Being a geordie is natural and place born.
There are black geordies and aisan geordies, just liek there are black british people- you're just a Geordie if your from here and are a part of the culture.
The accent is a massive giveaway, and there's a lot of cultural specific makers, none of which Tube has.

To say its not a real identity is stupid, its like saying being Irish is not a real thing.
You get fake 'irish' when you get random Yanks calliing themselves 'Irish' cos thier great grandad on both sides was, making tits of themselves on Paddys day, living in America their whole lives and being American-

Ollys troondom is not the whole of his charade, it is nowhere close.
He is a tit in many more significant ways.

 

[Photo of an orange]

Wrong. Being a geordie is natural and place born.
There are black geordies and aisan geordies, just liek there are black british people- you're just a Geordie if your from here and are a part of the culture.
The accent is a massive giveaway, and there's a lot of cultural specific makers, none of which Tube has.

To say its not a real identity is stupid, its like saying being Irish is not a real thing.
You get fake 'irish' when you get random Yanks calliing themselves 'Irish' cos thier great grandad on both sides was, making tits of themselves on Paddys day, living in America their whole lives and being American-

Ollys troondom is not the whole of his charade, it is nowhere close.
He is a tit in many more significant ways.

It's not a real identity outside of that community because right now the most famous Geordie might just be Olly.

And he is a fake.

Obviously within the community, it has meaning.

On the internet? No.

 

[AfghanBlue]

It's not a real identity outside of that community because right now the most famous Geordie might just be Olly.

And he is a fake.

Obviously within the community, it has meaning.

On the internet? No.

Look man, if you dont know what you're talking about, its a stupid idea to post about it.
Olly is not the most famous geordie, lmao.
If you were from the UK, which you are very clerly not, you would be able to list a good amny actaul geordies.
Like I said, its pretty dumb to post on things you dont really know about.
In the UK, the word has a very significant meaning.
Fuck, even a lot of Americans know the place from Newcastle Brown Ale. They often dont know the proper term for people from here.

it is not some mythical, esoteric, maybe its not really true thing, lmao.
It's just a city very far north of other main hubs, and so with quite a particular cultural identity, accent, that sort of thing.
Just because you dont know what a group of people from another country are called, that doesnt mean the whole internet is similarly ignorant.


And olly makes a low effort attempt at gaining some of any associated clout, just like he does with being trans. Thats why its being mentioned. Thats all.

Ask anyone from the UK what one is, and they'll tell you. Tube woudlnt even enter thier thoughts, even if they knew who he was.

 

[Photo of an orange]

There are black geordies and aisan geordies, just liek there are black british people- you're just a Geordie if your from here and are a part of the culture.

Also, this is ridiculous. No, there are not such people. All real Geordies are white.

People can't just claim Geordie-ism out of nowhere, just because they feel a certain way and happen to be born a certain place where ethnicity is discounted by internet forums.

Those people are trans-Geordies.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Also, this is ridiculous. No, there are not such people. All real Geordies are white.

People can't just claim Geordie-ism out of nowhere, just because they feel a certain way and happen to be born a certain place where ethnicity is discounted by internet forums.

Those people are trans-Geordies.

They arent claiming it out of nowehre.
they are claiming it becasue they are born here, have lived here thier whole lives, and are a part of the culture.

Thats like saying black british who are born and fully imesered into the culture people dont exist, despite them having no experience of being from anywhere else.
which a lot of racists think is the case, but considering you called yourself a leftist, i'd be surprised if you thought that was true.

As I said before- dont argue points for the sake of arguing, that you dont have a grasp on.
it really just makes for a boring, idiotic exchange.

 

[Photo of an orange]

Look man, if you dont know what you're talking about, its a stupid idea to post about it.
Olly is not the most famous geordie, lmao.
If you were from the UK, which you are very clerly not, you would be able to list a good amny actaul geordies.
Like I said, its pretty dumb to post on things you dont really know about.
In the UK, the word has a very significant meaning.
Fuck, even a lot of Americans know the place from Newcastle Brown Ale. They often dont know the proper term for people from here.

it is not some mythical, esoteric, maybe its not really true thing, lmao.
It's just a city very far north of other main hubs, and so with quite a particular cultural identity, accent, that sort of thing.
Just because you dont know what a group of people from another country are called, that doesnt mean the whole internet is similarly ignorant.


And olly makes a low effort attempt at gaining some of any associated clout, just like he does with being trans. Thats why its being mentioned. Thats all.

Geordies are not brown, Geordies are white. Brown Geordies are trans-Geordies.

Who is a more famous Geordie, still alive and discussed?

(Good beers don't count as people.)

None of this is really the point, though. The point is that Olly is a fake transwoman, and he's a fake Geordie. There are real versions of both, but it's way more ridiculous to gatekeep the Geordie part of it than the transwoman part of it, given that no one except Olly is trying to pretend to be Geordie.

They arent claiming it out of nowehre.
they are claiming it becasue they are born here, have lived here thier whole lives, and are a part of the culture.

Thats like saying black british who are born and fully imesered into the culture people dont exist, despite them having no experience of being from anywhere else.
which a lot of racists think is the case, but considering you called yourself a leftist, i'd be surprised if you thought that was true.

As I said before- dont argue points for the sake of arguing, that you dont have a grasp on.
it really just makes for a boring, idiotic exchange.

"they are claiming it becasue they are born here, have lived here thier whole lives, and are a part of the culture."

You are making trans-ethnic a thing for Geordies at the same time you're making trans-gender a non-thing for troons. Nonsensical.

Most transgender folks are fakes. Most trans-Geordies are, too. There are real versions, I accept that. But I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it.

 

[Futaba]

"they are claiming it becasue they are born here, have lived here thier whole lives, and are a part of the culture."

You are making trans-ethnic a thing for Geordies at the same time you're making trans-gender a non-thing for troons. Nonsensical.

Most transgender folks are fakes. Most trans-Geordies are, too. There are real versions, I accept that. But I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it.

Dude you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with the Geordie thing lol. I cant believe someone has actually typed out the phrase "trans geordie" and used it in an argument.

Being Geordie is a cultural thing it has nothing to do with ethnicity. The UK is a mess of distinct cultural identities - we are all British but things differ slightly depending where you are in the country. It sounds trite but you can guess what region of the country someone is from by what they call a morning roll - is is a bap, a cob, a bun, batch, barm or bread roll. Same for what do you have on your fish and chips. Accents and slang are a huge part of this too and much deeper down you will have the historical undercurrent of politics.

Based on all my knowledge of Olly he is a fake Geordie - plain as.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Dude you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with the Geordie thing lol. I cant believe someone has actually typed out the phrase "trans geordie" and used it in an argument.

Being Geordie is a cultural thing it has nothing to do with ethnicity. The UK is a mess of distinct cultural identities - we are all British but things differ slightly depending where you are in the country. It sounds trite but you can guess what region of the country someone is from by what they call a morning roll - is is a bap, a cob, a bun, batch, barm or bread roll. Same for what do you have on your fish and chips. Accents and slang are a huge part of this too and much deeper down you will have the historical undercurrent of politics.

Based on all my knowledge of Olly he is a fake Geordie - plain as.

lmfao, i know it’s not worth replying now. I’m not even really sure he’s trolling. He’s written some questionable things on here in the past but this pretty much seals the retard labelling.

 

[Photo of an orange]

Dude you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with the Geordie thing lol. I cant believe someone has actually typed out the phrase "trans geordie" and used it in an argument.

Being Geordie is a cultural thing it has nothing to do with ethnicity. The UK is a mess of distinct cultural identities - we are all British but things differ slightly depending where you are in the country. It sounds trite but you can guess what region of the country someone is from by what they call a morning roll - is is a bap, a cob, a bun, batch, barm or bread roll. Same for what do you have on your fish and chips. Accents and slang are a huge part of this too and much deeper down you will have the historical undercurrent of politics.

Based on all my knowledge of Olly he is a fake Geordie - plain as.

You act like Americans don't understand local identity or culture. Like that's a sidebar specialty for certain outposts in the UK. Yeah, the UK is a mess of genetic and cultural inputs, same as everywhere. Some are very recent though, and aren't part of the "real" local identity.

It sounds trite but you can guess what region of the country someone is from by what they call a morning roll - is is a bap, a cob, a bun, batch, barm or bread roll. Same for what do you have on your fish and chips. Accents and slang are a huge part of this too and much deeper down you will have the historical undercurrent of politics.

To argue against me you've created a distinct racial/ethnic identity (solely performance-based "Geordie") that transcends any actual biological race or ethnicity, without any ability to question self-identification, the only qualification being if someone says a word or vowel the right "Geordie" way...that "Geordie" identity is just a performance and a set of language codes (this is Contrapoints' definition of identity, by the way).

Fine, I guess. Why can't you do that for gender? I don't. I have other qualifications for real women, or real men, myself.

It's all so stupid, on your terms. It's only language games, it's dumb folk tribalism, as you appear to see it.

lmfao, i know it’s not worth replying now. I’m not even really sure he’s trolling. He’s written some questionable things on here in the past but this pretty much seals the exceptional individual labelling.

Glad you enabled spellcheck on this reply! The other ones were pretty embarrassing.

 

[Futaba]

You act like Americans don't understand local identity or culture.

Gee, I wonder what could make me think that? Could it be your posts which dont understand UK local identity or culture?

Some are very recent though, and aren't part of the "real" local identity.

Out of interest - like what?

To argue against me you've created an racial/ethnic identity (multi-racial Geordie) that transcends actual race or ethnicity without any ability to question it -- that is just a performance and a set of language codes (this is Contrapoints' definition of identity by the way).

As Simone de Beauvoir once said "one is not born a Geordie but becomes one" - thats one part of it, you have to take on the slang and history of the place you are born in (Olly fails). Another part of it is to be seen as a Geordie by others of the same British ingroup - another fail.

Its already been stated in this thread but saying you are Geordie has cache as having that wise-cracking, northern grit. Olly is a flouncing, foppish, southern, lily livered toff and that is observable to British people.

lmfao, i know it’s not worth replying now. I’m not even really sure he’s trolling. He’s written some questionable things on here in the past but this pretty much seals the exceptional individual labelling.

I have been entertained reading the posts but also ing incredulously lol

 

[Photo of an orange]

As Simone de Beauvoir once said "one is not born a Geordie but becomes one"

The important thing is that Olly hates women, and he is a total phony. Putting that at the top so it's not lost. Anyway...

To paraphase your Simone de Beauvoir Geordie-centric bullshit: " as ________________ once said, 'one is not born a woman but becomes one'. "

That seems really dumb, though! Are you dumb? No, I don't think you are. So what fallacy are you leaning on to make this mistake?

This "Geordie" identity shit is of minimal interest to me. Look, I'm sorry, maybe I underestimated the importance of this dumb regional stuff for UK folks.

However, I now understand that for whatever reason you want to expand Geordie personhood to the maximal extent, racially and ethnically -- based on the words people use socially -- but you want to exclude Olly. Whatever. Olly is fake in all ways, I can accept he's a fake Geordie, too.

But do you really not see the conflict? Anyone, regardless of birth, can become "Geordie" by saying words the right way, by presenting the right way? Seems familiar! If not, fine...I'm the one sperging...okay. But your arguments have no internal sense to them. You are agreeing 100% with Contrapoints on identity, here.

You're quoting Simone de Beauvoir about the transcendence of becoming an identity one is not born into, you are 100% agreeing with Contrapoints on how identity is socially constructed and made real...all this in the thread where the important thing is a fake-ass Oliver Lennard pretending to be a woman when he is NOT a woman, and when in fact he HATES women.

It's so fucking bizarre.

 

[esmeggs]

Can't we all just get along and bond over our shared disgust of a misogynistic, narcissistic, pornsick clown that skinwalks a balding, pathetic, emotionally-stunted, and somehow even more pornsick troon?

 

[Photo of an orange]

Can't we all just get along and bond over our shared disgust of a misogynistic, narcissistic, pornsick clown that skinwalks a balding, pathetic, emotionally-stunted, and somehow even more pornsick troon?

Yes, we can!

Oliver the Skinwalker is a fake everything.

I have way more in common with people who recognize that, than I have in common with Olly.

 

[Ophelia Jones]

Ollys skinwalking tactics has gotten so repetitive and repulsive, we have to fight over non-Olly related things every other day on this thread.

 

[speedweed]

Sir, this is a place for very serious troon discussion, not your personal soap box. You're crackpot Geordieology is dumb and so are you.

Please refrain from being a nigger-faggot in the future.

Thank you.