Friend who absolutely doesn't need the booster (though, who does?) went and got the booster yesterday. Another friend who isn't speaking to me anymore told me that she'd rather take boosters for the entire rest of her life rather than suffer the small chance of a horrific corona death. She's young, healthy, not a hamplanet, no comorbidities. But she is a self-admitted hypochondriac.
So I decided to check out
our government's guidance to boosters -
https://archive.md/siWUO
Some choice parts:
Why you are being offered a COVID-19 booster
Like some other vaccines, levels of protection may begin to wane over time. This booster dose will help extend the protection you gained from your first 2 doses and give you longer term protection.
The booster will help to reduce the risk of you needing admission to hospital due to COVID-19 infection this winter.
'Like some other vaccines', yes, perfectly normal for a vaccine's protection to wane after just a few months, every single time you take it. Remember to book your half-yearly MMR boosters alongside your corona boosters, guys!
At least they're honest about what it does now, reduces risk of hospitalisation. No more saving granny guilt trips. Although, do we know hospitalisation stats for countries such as Israel going gung-ho with the boosters?
Timing of booster
The booster is being offered at least 6 months after your last dose. Like your previous doses, the vaccine will be given in your upper arm.
Protection against severe disease from the first 2 doses seems to decline very slowly. So don’t worry if your booster vaccine is given a few weeks after the 6 months time-point. The booster dose should help to extend your protection into the next year.
Decline very slowly? Why do we need a booster after just six months then? That's three jabs in potentially as few as seven months (assuming you get your second dose within a few weeks of the first).
At least they're being honest again. The booster dose
should extend into next year, as next year is only just over a couple of months away!
Which vaccine you will be offered
You will be given a booster dose of either Pfizer or Moderna vaccine[footnote 1]. These vaccines have already been given to millions of people in the UK.
You will be offered the right vaccine for you which may be the same or different from the vaccines that you had before.
'The right vaccine for you', they are just making it up as they go.
Serious side effects
Worldwide, there have also been recent, very rare cases of inflammation of the heart called myocarditis or pericarditis reported after Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.
These cases have been seen mostly in younger men within several days after vaccination. Most of these people recovered and felt better following rest and simple treatments.
Is that true? Will most people with vaccine-induced myocarditis and pericarditis just be able to sleep it off?
Do you think they'll still recommend the second booster, whenever that is, to individuals who have experienced these side effects?
Those who shouldn’t have a booster
There are very few people who should not have a booster.
If you have had a severe reaction to a previous dose of the vaccine you should discuss this with your doctor.
Very few people. They want everyone to get the damn booster. So far, the guidance is just for 'People aged 50 years and over, health and social care workers and younger people at risk' to get a booster.
But one dose of the vaccine is being extended to those aged 12-17, a demographic who absolutely does not need the vaccine. So it won't surprise me if everyone eventually is recommended to get the booster.
Can you still catch COVID-19 after having the vaccine?
The COVID-19 vaccination will reduce the chance of you suffering from COVID-19. It may take a few days for your body to build up some protection from the booster.
Like all medicines, no vaccine is completely effective – some people may still get COVID-19 despite having a vaccination, but this should be less severe.
I remember back when the vaccines were starting to be rolled out here, before I took any time to question what was going on in the world around me, that I saw an article in the BBC about a study that was conducted, proclaiming how the vaccine seems to be effective and seems to prevent transmission.
I remember thinking to myself, 'Er, great? Isn't that what it's supposed to do?'. It struck me as odd that we'd needed to be told this, as surely isn't that what the actual vaccine trials are for? To determine efficacy (alongside safety)?
And now look where we are. 'No vaccine is completely effective'. True, but a bit disingenuous, no? There's a difference between a vaccine not working for a small amount of people but providing actual immunity in everyone else, and a vaccine whose only accomplishment seems to be reducing symptoms and reducing hospitalisation risk but not preventing you from getting infected & passing it on.
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How can you be selfish for not getting the jab? Those that want the vaccine have had ample time to go get it.
Assuming you live in Bongland (by the use of jab), they are already offering boosters.
If they try to state that special X case cannot get vaccinated due to whatever, okay. People with shitty immune systems existed before COVID, are alive now, and will exist in the future. Is society to continue masking forever to ensure the health of these special snowflakes?
You need to talk your family about why they might be irrational and/or accept your right to take risks.
Going by the metrics of this site, I assume you are between 20-40. Below is a COVID fatality rate during Delta. We see that for those in the KF age bracket the risk of death is less than .5%. Now, I am not saying it makes sense to take a 0.5% risk of death but I am saying that society has accepted people take above average risks without an intervention.
Ask them is you rode a motorbike, would they throw you an intervention?
The goal is not to deny your actions but to make them see your logic and acknowledge it.
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Yes to Bongland and demographic.
Someone said something earlier on in the thread that resonated completely with me. You can't reason someone into something when they didn't use logic to get there in the first place.
Trust me, I can quote shit I've learned from this thread for days, and occasionally I do get a slight glimmer of understanding and recognition, but the next day for some reason that's all thrown out of the window and I'm back to square one again. Or even worse, because the idea of me being a conspiracy tard is further cemented by my vehemence that this shit ain't right.
Possibly I'm not particularly persuasive, but I have no issues giving advice to my friends and family in other areas which they take on board, so I don't think it's purely down to that if so. I think it's down to a combo of blindly accepting what MSM says, poisoning of the well for contrary viewpoints, and appeals to authority because they are too dumb or scared to take it into their own hands to research. Why listen to the nutjob ranting about how Israel is on their fourth booster and yet their peak after rollout was higher than ever, the nutjob recommending fucking
horse paste as a preventative and treatment of all things, when you can just listen to the government telling you to get your booster and then everything will go back to normal?
(To give my persuasion skills some credit, I didn't call it horse paste! But that's poisoning of the well for ya.)
