Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

[Cedric_Eff]

Fun fact: Most people already know about how the image he used in that comic actually shows what happens when you try to ADD A FRIEND, not ACCEPT A FRIEND REQUEST from somebody else.
What people may forget is that this same kind of thing happened when Dobson blocked somebody on Twitter and posted a picture of it, claiming that he was blocked, without realizing it.
Like nigga, how do you block somebody, forget that you blocked them, and then claim that they've blocked you by taking a screenshot of the screen that shows up when you block somebody.
Instead of answering this, he just says it was "an honest mistake" and that he's "sorry". Dobson is such a stupid liar.

It also shows he has no real friends

 

[RileyV]

Same for making money off his "art." He never had links to his PayPal or Patreon or website or anything, so when some of his crap went viral nobody knew how to donate to the "artist." Then he'd bitch about having to make "art" for free.

Wasn't there a time, during his DA days, where he tried to sell a print of Pokemon or Adventure Time characters, got told by somebody that he couldn't do that, then bitched when someone else used the print for a t-shirt or something?

 

[Ghostse]

TL : DR - Fictional detectives frequently are benefiting from superpowers, specifically, probability of their hypothesis being correct as opposed to anyone else's even if there's no flaw in the logic of either one. While everyone will note the killer probably wore gloves due to lack of fingerprints at the scene, only Holmes, as hero, will be able to correctly guess the color and brand, sight unseen, even if he was just guessing blindly.


The story is programmed to make him more right than anyone else.

You aren't wrong, but as @RomanesEuntDomus shows below, there are levels. When someone's who's smart (or gets help from someone's who's smart) does it, there is logic to the deductions even if they were set up by the writer for the dectective to deduce them. If they are a shit writer, then yes its just random things that let the detective magic up a solution.

Its the difference between Off-the-wall/Absurdist humor and Random Access Monkey Cheese humor.
My favorite example is Salidor Dali's lobster telephone, where the handset of a telephone has a plastic lobster glued to it. At first glance its just "LOL Lobster phone!" but it is based on a (complex) foreign language pun. But addtionally the lobster is glued on in such a way that if the lobster was real, the mouth piece is where the genitals would be. That is, using the lobster phone would make it look like you giving the lobster head.

I have to sorta disagree on that tbh.

Smart characters, when well written, have a certain expertise that is depicted in a realistic and coherent manner, have knowledge of the case equal to or lower than the actual audience, their deductions are based on sensible observations and a logical foundation for their conclusions.

Smart characters, when written poorly, will often have secret knowledge (I think Agatha Christie liked to do that?) where a pivotal element of the "Who dun it?" is unknown to the reader and in the end, the main character reveals the unknown information that acts as the central clue to reveal who the murderer was.

In terrible detective stories, you get convoluted explanations or things get merely handwaved. Of course, the protagonis knew about the price hike for indigo-dyed silks in the markets in Lima 4 years ago. Of course, the protagonist is aware of some secret infight in a noble family a generation ago over someone knocking up a chambermaid. Of course, the protagonist has heard that one weird rumor from half across the globe regarding that obscure tidbit of crucial information that somehow unravels everything.
It's like they play with marked cards. But that's not how all such stories work.

One of my favorite episodes of Columbo has him working on a case of a poisoned chef and he keeps on badgering some restaurant critic (that the audience knows is guilty) that had dinner shortly before the chef died. Columbo just keeps putting pressure on the guy and it all culminates in a really awesome final scene, where Columbo and the restaurant critic cook a meal together and the critic sets up poison to kill Columbo. After Columbo reveals that he knows the critic was the murderer, we get this scene:

I really like that writing. The murderer gave himself away early on and it's something that when you watch that episode for the first time blows your mind. You don't pay attention to the critic when he shows up at the scene of the crime, but him not fussing over maybe being poisoned too reveals him as the one who did it.
That is very good writing, since Columbo makes a smart observation and logically deduces, researches and concludes. I love it.

Another example of decent writing, this time a scene from "Monk":

I mean, it's just a throwaway scene and it's not mind blowing, but Monk's deduction of the lawyer sleeping with his secretary is based on logically structured evidence that he found. Monk has savant-like memory and he's got a very keen eye for detail, but I woudl argue that's not the writers giving him "supernatural" perception, he's got severe autistic OCD, so things being a bit untidy (like pillows being the wrong way, an earing on the floor or something sticking out of a bag) are just things that would stick out to him like a sore thumb.
In general, his character has very strong abilities to notice fine details and remember them perfectly and this gets balanced out with a shitton of phobias, him being socially awkward, OCDs and so overall I would call him a "balanced" character.

The show overall of course doesn't hold a candle to classics like Columbo, but I always liked the scene I just linked, since it's such a concise example of structuring things in a manner that makes sense for the audience.

Bad writing in mystery shows oftentimes just blows away your suspension of disbelief.

Thank you for doing what I was too lazy to do.

And yeah, Agatha Cristie loved to do that, and some of the mid-late Holmes stories did it to. Its a very British Mystery thing to do where the detective has secret knowledge the reader lacks and only reveals at "the gathering of suspects".

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

And yeah, Agatha Cristie loved to do that, and some of the mid-late Holmes stories did it to. Its a very British Mystery thing to do where the detective has secret knowledge the reader lacks and only reveals at "the gathering of suspects".

It's why I love Columbo - it does the exact opposite by giving Columbo less info than the audience. The audience knows who did it and how it was done, so the suspense comes purely from watching Columbo unravel it. You need good writing to pull it off and Columbo did it masterfully.

 

[Ghostse]

It's why I love Columbo - it does the exact opposite by giving Columbo less info than the audience. The audience knows who did it and how it was done, so the suspense comes purely from watching Columbo unravel it. You need good writing to pull it off and Columbo did it masterfully.

That was one of the things that I don't like from Columbo, honestly. I don't like knowing for sure who dun it.

 

[BScCollateral]

I really like that writing. The murderer gave himself away early on and it's something that when you watch that episode for the first time blows your mind.

What makes Columbo so unique is that only three episodes are "Whodunnits," the rest are "Howcatchums."
In almost every episode, Columbo knows who the guilty party is almost immediately; the story is about proving it. It's often very subtle, like "Where did this newspaper come from?"
The character was based on the investigator in Crime and Punishment.

Apologies; he's just is one of my favorites.

 

[moocow]

You ever want to see a rabbit Vtuber talk about and laugh at Dobson?

Because that’s a thing now.

11:39 to 1:16:00

Huh. Now I have AIDS. Something to make my Sunday interesting, I guess.

how do "you lose!" just by whiffing an attack?

Play a few rounds of Paranoia (the 2nd edition is superior, though XP is alright too) and you'll find lots of examples. On the upside, it's not "game over" when you get vaporized by your own laser pistol -- you just chalk up a clone and carry on.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

That was one of the things that I don't like from Columbo, honestly. I don't like knowing for sure who dun it.

I can see the appeal of good-structured and well-written "who dun it" stories, cause you can attempt to piece it together by yourself. Columbo doesn't offer that, so yeah...

Play a few rounds of Paranoia (the 2nd edition is superior, though XP is alright too) and you'll find lots of examples. On the upside, it's not "game over" when you get vaporized by your own laser pistol -- you just chalk up a clone and carry on.

That's small fry. Play Travelers, where your character can die during creation

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Wasn't there a time, during his DA days, where he tried to sell a print of Pokemon or Adventure Time characters, got told by somebody that he couldn't do that, then bitched when someone else used the print for a t-shirt or something?

Yes.

 

[Koby_Fish]

(From 2017)

Glad to be bullied in school so much you fled your hometown?
Who knows.

Who would be more likely to win the affections of the fair Hotdog Abortion Maiden - Dobson, or Moviebob?

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

Yes.

This reminds me of a saying (that also applies to this site):
"There's no limits to what you can accomplish if you don't care who takes the credit."
Dobson should be overjoyed that there are people wearing his artwork on a shirt, or has it as their phone case.
He wouldn't have gotten that much money if he sold it himself, besides that's not supposed to be the primary way that a cartoonist makes money anyways, especially when, as Dobson admits, it's chock-full of licensed characters.
The whole approach is just so ass-backwards.

 

[Open Window Maniac]

Who would be more likely to win the affections of the fair Hotdog Abortion Maiden - Dobson, or Moviebob?

I think Moviebob becuase he and Ellis are two peas in a pod: alkie burnouts who make crappy vidoes about reading way too deep into children's media. Also, they write terrible books no one reads.

 

[Professor Iris]

Fun fact: Most people already know about how the image he used in that comic actually shows what happens when you try to ADD A FRIEND, not ACCEPT A FRIEND REQUEST from somebody else.
What people may forget is that this same kind of thing happened when Dobson blocked somebody on Twitter and posted a picture of it, claiming that he was blocked, without realizing it.
Like nigga, how do you block somebody, forget that you blocked them, and then claim that they've blocked you by taking a screenshot of the screen that shows up when you block somebody.
Instead of answering this, he just says it was "an honest mistake" and that he's "sorry". Dobson is such a stupid liar.

Not doing the bloody research and getting butthurt over it is peak Dobson. Admittedly, I didn't even notice the FB thing until you pointed it out, but I will add that it's rather symbolic of SJW-mentality: The one where you made up an imaginary battle of wits in your head. I wouldn't be surprised if Dobson really did find the guy's profile, click on 'Send Friend Request', and then hit 'Cancel' on it just to flip the bird at him.

My favorite part with regards to the Twitter snafu is where he admits his mistake, then rationalizes it by going, "Well, he was a douche anyway."
Stay classy, Dope-san.

Yes.

The funny thing about some of Dobson's comics is that it seems to have a point, until you switch your brain on and think about it for a couple of minutes.
If this was commentary about Big Ben, like I suspect it is, then the point of contention ISN'T about how you're trying to sell copyrighted characters, it's that you flat-out took somebody else's photograph, stuck it in your artwork, and THEN tried to sell it for money.

Also, Dobson, I'm fairly certain that you can DMCA all of those, just like how you DMCA'd Know Your Meme for that same offense.

Or, you know, jump on the bandwagon AND DO THE SAME YOURSELF. How does this man consider himself a professional when it never occurred to him to put his own works on t-shirts, mugs and phones?

 

[RileyV]

Yes.

Thank you, thought I remembered this.

I just find it funny that Dobson could have demanded either artist credit on those sites or DMCA'd them, or could have just said fuck it and sold a similar print as merch and just said "Tough shit, tons of people do this."

Instead, he just sulked like a fucking baby and did literally nothing. Big N only would have given him attention if he was a big enough name or sold a shitton, neither of which was ever going to happen.

 

[Brother Wind]

Dungeons and Dragons: I thought the appeal was pretty much making a character and going on adventures where everything is dictated by RNG. someone correct me if I’m wrong. Also, I think that if you never played DND, someone would explain the basics to you.

If you like video games then you get the appeal. Its just a matter of how much the cons of playing pretend with sweaty nerds weighs down those appeals

women dressing too skimpily.

This is why Halloween is great and why Dobson sucks.

I think he was just hoping she'd notice him and send him her college lesbian sex tape.

Hold on brb becoming best friends with Lindsey Ellis...

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

Was Dobson ever a cartoonist? From what I read, it seems like following what he did is the anthesis of what one wishes to accomplish as a cartoonist.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Was Dobson ever a cartoonist? From what I read, it seems like following what he did is the anthesis of what one wishes to accomplish as a cartoonist.

He was a cartoonist because he had no choice. It was a way to break into the animation industry and become what is known as a "showrunner"- basically, he would dictate what happens in a cartoon. He never wanted to do any real work; he wanted to have other people take his ideas and make them for him.

 

[RileyV]

He was a cartoonist because he had no choice. It was a way to break into the animation industry and become what is known as a "showrunner"- basically, he would dictate what happens in a cartoon. He never wanted to do any real work; he wanted to have other people take his ideas and make them for him.

Somewhere, in the recesses of the dark multiverse, there is a world where "Disney's Alex Ze Pirate" makes it the big screen, and is such a colossal failure, Disney shutters their 2D animation departments for good, where people blamed the movie's odd "anime inspired" design as one of the reasons it didn't take off with audiences, as well as blatant sexism, and the inability to sell the movie to the Chinese due to the presence of gay in nearly every scene.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Somewhere, in the recesses of the dark multiverse, there is a world where "Disney's Alex Ze Pirate" makes it the big screen, and is such a colossal failure, Disney shutters their 2D animation departments for good, where people blamed the movie's odd "anime inspired" design as one of the reasons it didn't take off with audiences, as well as blatant sexism, and the inability to sell the movie to the Chinese due to the presence of gay in nearly every scene.

If there are infinite multiverses, then this has already happened infinite times.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If there are infinite multiverses, then this has already happened infinite times.

I want to see the universe where Moviebob and Dobson became roommates and made Roger Rabbit style videos where they went on adventures with Link and Mario. Because the levels of autism would be hilarious.