The Eternals - marvel is trying it again this time less humor and hit music and more unnecessary love triangles

[ChadBrazilian]

 

[Oats12345]

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Not sure that's the best quality

 

[Gar For Archer]

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Is this gonna be the bomb everyone was waiting for?

Zero excitement. Zero word-of-mouth. Shit reviews. Coof nerf.

If this somehow doesn't bomb, I can at least see it having a major knock-on effect a la The Last Jedi where it destabilizes normie faith in "new and different" MCU movies and drastically lowers excitement for the rest of Phase 4.

 

[Uranus Pink]

At best this would effect the casuals as they have some higher brain function. Normies especially American normies however are functionally brain dead and indoctrinated since birth to consoom Disney shit. Though with the ongoing coof hysteria triggering their long dormant self-preservation nodes, that is fucking with their go out and consoom Disney merch programming good and hard.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Is this gonna be the bomb everyone was waiting for?

Zero excitement. Zero word-of-mouth. Shit reviews. Coof nerf.

If this somehow doesn't bomb, I can at least see it having a major knock-on effect a la The Last Jedi where it destabilizes normie faith in "new and different" MCU movies and drastically lowers excitement for the rest of Phase 4.

I hope so. Let it bomb, let it bomb.

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"The film was terrible but at least it makes the gays happy".

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

"Lacks the breezy wit of Marvel's best movies."

Does that mean no tone-shattering quips and one-liners?

 

[gaystoner]

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"Lacks the breezy wit of Marvel's best movies."

Does that mean no tone-shattering quips and one-liners?

potentially..if they dropped all the 'schtick' that makes people go all wojack...This film could actually be considered entertainment.

 

[Morch Ponkey]

"It's not as funny or good as the other movies but at least it's as pozzed as the comics now" - Yael Shekelburg, Schenectady Daily

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

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I'm so shocked! Shocked I tell you! Trying it with an incredibly obscure team with absolutely no build up or reference in previous films turns out to be as appealing as wallpaper paste.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

even redditors are starting to break from the simulation, Marvel better hope China finally caves on their USA embargo or they're fucked. even BW still hasn't gotten a release date.

the way thinks are going if China goes full "fuck Marvel" GOTG 3 will end up with the same budget as the troma films Gunn started on.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

even redditors are starting to break from the simulation, Marvel better hope China finally caves on their USA embargo or they're fucked. even BW still hasn't gotten a release date.

the way thinks are going if China goes full "fuck Marvel" GOTG 3 will end up with the same budget as the troma films Gunn started on.

I feel you're underestimating the Eternals worth to Marvel as it bombing wouldn't mean much especially since the new Spider-Man film is coming out the next month which has a lot more hype for it in comparison.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

I feel you're underestimating the Eternals worth to Marvel as it bombing wouldn't mean much especially since the new Spider-Man film is coming out the next month which has a lot more hype for it in comparison.

its not about the Eternals so much as 3 "flops" not getting a chinesse release date to save them as well as DC focusing on smaller budgets (Batman only $100 mil, and its other films shooting are clocking in around budget) meaning the expected box office for the latest Marvelshit won't be an expected $1 billion+ anymore, and they'll compensate by cutting budgets.
plus this film being so different means it will force the studio to triple down on what works. I'll agree with you on spiderman being the bigger film, and it'll be the breaking point if the market truely hasn't recovered.

the way the box office has been it seems this quarter won't return to 2019 levels, but 2003 levels, and the 2022 forecast seems to be showing roughly that era for gross, a year and a half without any real films has gotten people used to streaming. so a massive reduction in budget for films not in production seems to be on the way. which is going to hurt the MCU a lot more than DC right now.

 

[Adamska]

Marvel would need multiple shitshows for it to get dented. Eternals will just be written off as "an attempt to use barely used comic content that failed", despite how that sort of approach works beautifully if done right (Mr. Freeze for example was completely overhauled due to TAS and became far more relevant).

 

[HarryHowler]

the way the box office has been it seems this quarter won't return to 2019 levels, but 2003 levels, and the 2022 forecast seems to be showing roughly that era for gross, a year and a half without any real films has gotten people used to streaming. so a massive reduction in budget for films not in production seems to be on the way. which is going to hurt the MCU a lot more than DC right now.

Ironically, Marvel have given themselves an exit strategy completely by accident, with the Disney+ MCU shows. If cinematic revenues remain permanently depressed and leave the MCU's current business model unviable, they can just reduce it to one or two tentpole cinematic releases a year, using properties and release windows they know will still make megabucks, and refocus around their streaming shows.

 

[Milkshake Sniffer]

Marvel would need multiple shitshows for it to get dented. Eternals will just be written off as "an attempt to use barely used comic content that failed", despite how that sort of approach works beautifully if done right (Mr. Freeze for example was completely overhauled due to TAS and became far more relevant).

Multiple shitshows....... From an industry and corporation that loves to boast about it's successes and gets incredibly fawning media coverage I have yet to see anything that credibly shows that either Black Widow or Shang Chi made any actual net profit; let alone the level of return on investment that could justify making those films. There's a similar lack of anything showing that the D+ shows have been financially beneficial.

The viral gift from China is good cover but the warning signs go back further. Remember the underwhelming meh fest of the Phase 4 initial publicity.

It's almost as if the MCU's success was built on Perlmutter's watch and since the beatification of Saint Feige things ain't gone so well.

 

[HarryHowler]

It's almost as if the MCU's success was built on Perlmutter's watch and since the beatification of Saint Feige things ain't gone so well.

Perlmutter was also a major reason why Thor: The Dark World turned into such a complete clusterfuck behind the scenes (even if in retrospect he made the right call by shitcanning Patty Jenkins), and from what I remember he wanted to get rid of RDJ after Age of Ultron. The guy might have had good instincts when it came to promoting the franchise and even greenlighting risky projects such as Guardians of the Galaxy, but he was a fuckup in many other ways.

 

[starborn427614]

Phase 4 is a lot more mixed that previous ones, but I wouldn't rule Feige out just yet. The Ms Marvel stuff sounds kind of stupid, but if the execution works it'll be a big thing for them.

 

[Milkshake Sniffer]

Perlmutter was also a major reason why Thor: The Dark World turned into such a complete clusterfuck behind the scenes (even if in retrospect he made the right call by shitcanning Patty Jenkins), and from what I remember he wanted to get rid of RDJ after Age of Ultron. The guy might have had good instincts when it came to promoting the franchise and even greenlighting risky projects such as Guardians of the Galaxy, but he was a fuckup in many other ways.

Maybe Perlmutter was good, maybe he was lucky but the numbers are the numbers. He didn't shitcan RDJ and Thor: The Dark World (according to wiki with all the health warnings) made $644M on a budget of $153M. It was the eighth MCU film and brought in more than five of the other seven.

If that's failure for Perlmutter, Feige must dream of achieving that level of fail with Phase 4.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Perlmutter was also a major reason why Thor: The Dark World turned into such a complete clusterfuck behind the scenes (even if in retrospect he made the right call by shitcanning Patty Jenkins), and from what I remember he wanted to get rid of RDJ after Age of Ultron. The guy might have had good instincts when it came to promoting the franchise and even greenlighting risky projects such as Guardians of the Galaxy, but he was a fuckup in many other ways.

Perlmutter was 100% on the money that a BW film would flop, and derail the franchise. the next two films after BW got lower boxoffices than any movie in the franchise besides hulk and the first captain america.

As for the TV project, that should be blamed more on shitty writers; 13 episode seasons shouldn't be impossible to write for, David simon does it all by himself essentially on HBO shows. If they just covered more plot in those 13 episode seasons it would have been better, the main reason these shows sucked was all the padding. and you can't blame budget either at the time they were fairly high budget for a one hour action show. the episodes had a higher budget than lost or boardwalk empire.

 

[Hazel Motes]

Hahahaha this is the first time I have even heard this load of shite. And now time to forget it.