US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Who’s speculating?

You gonna share that crystal ball you've got or keep it all yourself?

I’ll just keep it to myself. Wouldn’t do y’all much good anyway.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Who’s speculating?

Everyone in the thread who isn't acting as if though they've got the future on lock like they're a farseer.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Everyone in the thread who isn't acting as if though they've got the future on lock like they're a farseer.

So Gehenna saying that Big Tech is going to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring is just speculation but me calling “bullshit” isn’t?

 

[Weppers]

While being a committed doomer is something I find annoying from someone I find the other side of the coin, where people call realism being a doomer equally fucking annoying. Both are symptoms of thinking you know the future better than anyone else who disagrees with you.

You gonna share that crystal ball you've got or keep it all to yourself?

Seriously though it's annoying to keep acting like everyone needs to stop speculating on what could happen in the future just because you're %100 convinced of the prediction you've made for it. I'll say it again man we're not world leaders or influencers, it's a group of shitposters wondering what could happen. No need to act like we're making a plan for the future or some gay shit.

I don't particularly like the terms 'blackpill' or 'doomer' either, but I didn't want to take ten paragraphs to define terms I'd be happier with just to make my one-sentence point. Apologies.

 

[Psyduck]

So Gehenna saying that Big Tech is going to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring is just speculation but me calling “bullshit” isn’t?

You got a point dude but my god i cant read your posts in anything but the cawd's voice and it cracks me up

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

After the last decade of politics I'm firmly in the camp of "shit happens".

Maybe a bit more concrete I think if Biden runs in 24 Trump will probably win. But I don't think he'll run, and if Trump goes up against someone else I don't know but I think he'll be at disadvantage.

So Gehenna saying that Big Tech is going to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring is just speculation but me calling “bullshit” isn’t?

It's the difference between complaining about something and whining. It's a thin line for sure but you're past it. Just take it down from like an 11 to an 8.

 

[LurkTrawl]

So Gehenna saying that Big Tech is going to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring is just speculation but me calling “bullshit” isn’t?

I didn't see many other people talking like this:

I’d rather accept the world as it really is, than stroke it to fantasies of how Trump is going to rise from the ashes and force Big Tech to kiss his ring. Trump is done.

It’s time to accept reality. Try to make it the best way we can in the system we find ourselves in. People should know when they’re conquered.

There's a difference between saying you think something is going to happen from your experience, or that your opinion that the future is going to be x, and saying that everyone who's saying elsewise is living a fantasy and that x is what's going to happen as a declarative statement. Like people are just giving out opinions, not acting as if though what they say is a factual declaration of the future like you are.

I don't mean to be combative but I like seeing other people's opinions on what could happen. Going "you're all fantasists living in unreality we need to stop this pretending" is kind of anathema to that kind of discussion. That's all I'm getting at. For what it's worth I don't think big tech would ever try to make a deal with Trump and that Trump simply doesn't have the experience with the internet to handle something like this without royally fucking it up.

 

[HumanHive]

Really Big Tech is doubling down on censoring “misinformation” - whether it is with vaccines or with wrongthink news sites. Brietbart just got hit within the past few weeks.

New Evidence Reveals Facebook Censoring Conservative Content; Breitbart Traffic Hobbled | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The 2024 Trump campaign is going to go something like this: he has a rally, mentions 2020, and oops it is scrubbed from the Internet. Just like what’s happening right now. The plan is to deny him all oxygen, and there will be no “deal” - not before or after the 2024 election. @Gehenna needs to lay off the hopium, to be completely honest.

A major Overton window shift in the past five years has been on the subject of dissenting opinions. Before a certain amount of innate left libertarianism kept censorship from the left at bay, but once they started going after “acceptable” targets like Moon landing conspiracy theorists it snowballed until we’re right here with silencing anything from the right. Another five years and it’ll be completely ingrained as a key part of big tech’s corporate responsibility.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

So Gehenna saying that Big Tech is going to bend the knee and kiss Trump’s ring is just speculation but me calling “bullshit” isn’t?

Saying Big Tech is the only group that could take the knee and survive the experience is a far cry from saying they Will take the knee. I think you might be prescribing too much optimism to discussion of potential courses - Biden could have withdrawn from Afghanistan fine, but he most certainly didn't. Biden could have hard EO'd the mandates, but he didn't.

At the end of the day we're just here to shitpost aggressively on the internet, and speculation, theorycrafting, and even doomering all fits under that umbrella.

Hell, I'm pretty sure Gehanna explicitly said big tech can't go republican after all they've done. Thats a far cry from kissing the ring.

 

[jje100010001]

If we hit a massive depression and they continue to do fuck all, but I'd expect even this completely broken group to band together to do something about that because it'd drop them so low.

https://twitter.com/EaldWeald/status/1452643914855460889

 

[mold]

Do they really?

lol no

Gehenna is (LARPing as someone) in Wisconsin doing political analysis, how would he even know

big tech is either brogrammers whose closest approach to politics involve paying for the seasteading conferences of the white girlfriends they don't marry, who party until they get scooped up by a Chinese or Japanese woman they do marry, or true believers

the true believers do not have the capacity to change. they will only throw in on fully automated gay space communism. if that means depopulation then they will do some processing and be ok with it.

 

[Salubrious]

Really Big Tech is doubling down on censoring “misinformation” - whether it is with vaccines or with wrongthink news sites. Brietbart just got hit within the past few weeks.

New Evidence Reveals Facebook Censoring Conservative Content; Breitbart Traffic Hobbled | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The 2024 Trump campaign is going to go something like this: he has a rally, mentions 2020, and oops it is scrubbed from the Internet. Just like what’s happening right now. The plan is to deny him all oxygen, and there will be no “deal” - not before or after the 2024 election. @Gehenna needs to lay off the hopium, to be completely honest.

A major Overton window shift in the past five years has been on the subject of dissenting opinions. Before a certain amount of innate left libertarianism kept censorship from the left at bay, but once they started going after “acceptable” targets like Moon landing conspiracy theorists it snowballed until we’re right here with silencing anything from the right. Another five years and it’ll be completely ingrained as a key part of big tech’s corporate responsibility.

Which is hilarious, because below is the current front page of Yahoo.

This is why pandering doesn't work. For ALL the right-wing censorship Facebook and Reddit do, the mainstream media still treats them like they are Kiwi Farms.

It is NEVER good enough.

 

[Gehenna]

Really Big Tech is doubling down on censoring “misinformation” - whether it is with vaccines or with wrongthink news sites. Brietbart just got hit within the past few weeks.

New Evidence Reveals Facebook Censoring Conservative Content; Breitbart Traffic Hobbled | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The 2024 Trump campaign is going to go something like this: he has a rally, mentions 2020, and oops it is scrubbed from the Internet. Just like what’s happening right now. The plan is to deny him all oxygen, and there will be no “deal” - not before or after the 2024 election. @Gehenna needs to lay off the hopium, to be completely honest.

A major Overton window shift in the past five years has been on the subject of dissenting opinions. Before a certain amount of innate left libertarianism kept censorship from the left at bay, but once they started going after “acceptable” targets like Moon landing conspiracy theorists it snowballed until we’re right here with silencing anything from the right. Another five years and it’ll be completely ingrained as a key part of big tech’s corporate responsibility.

There is less hopium there than the doomer is trying to claim. I merely said that in the event that Trump wins much of BigTech will try to make a backroom deal that -mitigates- the damage they take. No sudden heel turn, no sudden support from BigTech, no ring kissing. Just a dirty deal, made under the table, that lets them survive.

Saying Big Tech is the only group that could take the knee and survive the experience is a far cry from saying they Will take the knee. I think you might be prescribing too much optimism to discussion of potential courses - Biden could have withdrawn from Afghanistan fine, but he most certainly didn't. Biden could have hard EO'd the mandates, but he didn't.

At the end of the day we're just here to shitpost aggressively on the internet, and speculation, theorycrafting, and even doomering all fits under that umbrella.

Hell, I'm pretty sure Gehanna explicitly said big tech can't go republican after all they've done. Thats a far cry from kissing the ring.

At least someone gets it. This isn't some magical deal that fixes the problem. It's a desperate act I explicitly said was speculation.

lol no

Gehenna is (LARPing as someone) in Wisconsin doing political analysis, how would he even know

big tech is either brogrammers whose closest approach to politics involve paying for the seasteading conferences of the white girlfriends they don't marry, who party until they get scooped up by a Chinese or Japanese woman they do marry, or true believers

the true believers do not have the capacity to change. they will only throw in on fully automated gay space communism. if that means depopulation then they will do some processing and be ok with it.

Most of BigTech, the higher-ups that is, aren't true believers. That was kinda fundamental to my point. They are nominally left-wing individuals, with deep rot in their organizations, who signed on more for power than for ideological reasons.

True believers would rather die than do anything against the Dems, but BigTech isn't true believers. They are nominally aligned fairweather friends.

 

[HumanHive]

Which is hilarious, because below is the current front page of Yahoo.

This is why pandering doesn't work. For ALL the right-wing censorship Facebook and Reddit do, the mainstream media still treats them like they are Kiwi Farms.

It is NEVER good enough.

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Stuff like that keeps the pressure on Big Tech to never go back to the old laissez faire model. It’s not betrayal, but reinforcement.

 

[Gehenna]

Stuff like that keeps the pressure on Big Tech to never go back to the old laissez faire model. It’s not betrayal, but reinforcement.

And wouldn't be necessary if their control was already absolute. It is only necessary -because- BigTech wants the fuck out.

 

[Salubrious]

Stuff like that keeps the pressure on Big Tech to never go back to the old laissez faire model. It’s not betrayal, but reinforcement.

I would agree that it is the intent, but at some point for a lot of people if they get pressured enough, they are going to say "what is the fucking point?"

For example, I would be much more "pro-LGBTQ+" if they just left me the fuck alone. But when they demand that you date them and they get to indoctrinate your kids, AND they get to step in the MMA cage with biological women, eventually it gets to the point where its like "why the fuck would I be on their side for anything?"

One of the reasons why gay marriage was accepted is because AT THE TIME, the gays were still pushing that they only wanted to be themselves and "it was ridiculous" when the right-wing said that they would want everyone to gay marry. The trannies have no such qualms; suck their dicks and let them show their dicks to kids or YOU are a bigot.

 

[mold]

Most of BigTech, the higher-ups that is, aren't true believers. That was kinda fundamental to my point. They are nominally left-wing individuals, with deep rot in their organizations, who signed on more for power than for ideological reasons.

True believers would rather die than do anything against the Dems, but BigTech isn't true believers. They are nominally aligned fairweather friends.

You are wrong, and it's mostly because you (say you) are in Wisconsin.

The people running Silicon Valley might not come off to you as "true believers" because you don't live in a place that is already a one party state. (Nobody is a true believer in the Democratic Party anyway, people are true believers in the glorious revolution or antiracism or things that actually move people. ) They were setting up globalized control with closer and closer ties to China and the eventual technocratic state. They are not partisans but people running shit in CA don't have any other partisan possibilities open to them, it's impossible for them to support Republicans, politically, emotionally, cognitively, it's just completely not an option. They will 100% go full communist first.

 

[Simple Moving Average]

I’d rather accept the world as it really is, than stroke it to fantasies of how Trump is going to rise from the ashes and force Big Tech to kiss his ring. Trump is done. He got schlonged in 2020 and if he tries again in ‘24 he’ll get schlonged again. Trump himself said last week that unless rigging is eliminated that the GOP will continue to lose in ‘22 and ‘24. You think rigging is going away anytime soon? It may become more obvious as time goes on but it’s never going away. It’s time to accept reality. Try to make it the best way we can in the system we find ourselves in. People should know when they’re conquered.

If you are the type of person sensitive to this kind of agitprop, I recommend pressing the ignore button on this user. They have no value to add and will only subtract value from you and yours. A parasite in search of a host, if you will.

 

[Gehenna]

You are wrong, and it's mostly because you (say you) are in Wisconsin.

The people running Silicon Valley might not come off to you as "true believers" because you don't live in a place that is already a one party state. (Nobody is a true believer in the Democratic Party anyway, people are true believers in the glorious revolution or antiracism or things that actually move people. ) They were setting up globalized control with closer and closer ties to China and the eventual technocratic state. They are not partisans but people running shit in CA don't have any other partisan possibilities open to them, it's impossible for them to support Republicans, politically, emotionally, cognitively, it's just completely not an option. They will 100% go full communist first.

I can admit I might be wrong, I said so from my very first posts. But I disagree with how you paint this picture, people, in the end, are people. And all indications outwardly and from how they have acted say that that those who run Big Tech aren't true believers, but instead opportunistic and power hungry,

 

[mold]

You guys in general just don't understand California. You know how you're all wigged out by how creepy you find Harris? She looks like a bazillion people I know, I know so many women who have her body language and facial expressions.

Big Tech is post-american. Completely. The only thing it has in common with the historical US is the English language.