US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

I could kind of see the point of such experiments if I squint my eyes real hard and pretend there aren't vast biological differences between dogs and humans, but this new story about lobotomizing monkeys with acid to increase the levels of fear they feel? There's no justification in the world for mass-producing the fetishistic tortures of Jeffrey Dahmer.

With any luck, this might shatter some of the science fetishism out there too - This is textbook "Science has gone too far" stuff, creating significant amounts of suffering and pain for very little measureable benefit. I'm fairly ok with animal testing, and even I can see this shit reeks of "I did it because I could". They don't even treat lab rats as bad as those dogs, and by god those rats have been though some shit.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

the reveal about the beagle experimentation might have been a last straw for JonTron

The fact that he cares more about Dogs than the fact that Fauci has been lying and funded the lab that probably caused the Kung Flu makes me hate John Tron even more.

"Caused Covid 19?" Crickets

"Hurt uwu FUR BABIES" REEEEEEEE HE MUST BE FUCKING DESTROYED HOW DARE HE.

 

[Gehenna]

The fact that he cares more about Dogs than the fact that Fauci has been lying and funded the lab that probably caused the Kung Flu makes me hate John Tron even more.

"Caused Covid 19?" Crickets

"Hurt uwu FUR BABIES" REEEEEEEE HE MUST BE FUCKING DESTROYED HOW DARE HE.

I think that's a bit unfair. The dog thing isn't likely to be the whole load, but rather the straw that broke the camel's back. A lot of people have an issue seeing the whole picture because it isn't really laid out in a way they can see. But they have enough bits and pieces that their mood was already soured to the man, just not really tipped over the edge into disgust.

This is less of a tip and more of a shove over that point.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I think that's a bit unfair. The dog thing isn't likely to be the whole load, but rather the straw that broke the camel's back

Bullshit, people have been defending this overpaid lying sack of shit for 2 years now. If you didn't hate his dumb ass 2 weeks and one day after it became apparent that "Two Weeks to Stop the spread" was bullshit but will hate him over "Hurt doggos" you are a dumb fucking faggot.

 

[Gehenna]

Bullshit, people have been defending this overpaid lying sack of shit for 2 years now. If you didn't hate his dumb ass 2 weeks and one day after it became apparent that "Two Weeks to Stop the spread" was bullshit but will hate him over "Hurt doggos" you are a dumb fucking faggot.

You are conflating two people. Those who defended him, and those who have slowly grown to dislike him. As far as I know, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, JonTron hasn't been actively defending the man and therefore your statement is a conflation of these two separate groups.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Humorously enough, the reveal about the beagle experimentation might have been a last straw for JonTron that he's blasting it on Twitter amongst other things denigrating Fauci. Responses have been rather evenly split down the middle, either thanking him for speaking out about how Fauci is a monster, or ignoramuses branding Jon an anti-vaxx science denying MAGA chud due to his past controversial statements.

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How did Kushner and the Neoconservatives even find the hole Fauci was hiding in? Sheesh.

If anything, counterpoint: Nothing ever happens to the person, but shit keeps coming out from them.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I haven't really seen any genuine defense of Fraudci online because nobody seriously brings this shit up or criticizes him.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

I haven't really seen any genuine defense of Fraudci online because nobody seriously brings this shit up or criticizes him.

I did go looking to see who was picking up the story and ran into a DEBOONK WaPo article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/25/fauci-puppy-experiments-conspiracy-republicans/

My family recently got a new puppy, a strong-willed and mouthy but ultimately lovable little nipper. We named him Bernie Sanders.
Unfortunately, though, I can’t take Bernie out on walks. Here in the capital, we have a puppy killer on the loose, a murderous psychopath known as Anthony S. Fauci.
“Dr. Anthony Fauci is facing calls from a bipartisan group of legislators to respond to allegations that his National Institutes of Health division provided a grant to a lab in Tunisia to torture and kill dozens of beagle puppies for twisted scientific experiments,” Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post reported Sunday afternoon.
“HORROR ‘EXPERIMENTS’: #ArrestFauci trending after doc ‘funded research that saw beagles eaten alive & stripped of vocal cords in testing’” Murdoch’s Sun reported.
“'Cruel' Fauci is condemned for … experiments which saw beagles ‘de-barked’ and trapped in cages so flies could eat them alive,” added Britain’s Daily Mail, mentioning “a Tunisian research lab where beagle puppies were force-fed a new drug.”
The monster! What next, Fauci? Setting kittens’ tails on fire? Pulling appendages off daddy longlegs while watching cock fights?
Unlikely. As it turns out, the only thing being tortured here is the truth. The episode says more about the right-wing disinformation machine and its crusade against Fauci than it does about research funded by Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
It turns out that this Tunisian study was erroneously attributed to NIAID. NIAID did, however, fund different research in Tunisia — and the beagles weren’t puppies, they weren’t euthanized, they weren’t “de-barked,” and they weren’t “trapped” so “flies could eat them alive.” The dogs were given an experimental vaccine and allowed to roam. There was a very good reason for this: Dogs are the main reservoir host (and flies the main vector) of the disease that was being studied, which affects half a million people a year, particularly children, and has a 6 percent mortality rate in Tunisia.
But right-wing news outlets, through stupidity or malice, conflated separate studies funded by NIAID, using documents provided by the White Coat Waste Project, a watchdog group with an anti-Fauci bent. Over the past couple of months, Gateway Pundit, National Review, Fox News, the Hill and others have picked up elements of this “story,” with varying degrees of accuracy, and lawmakers have written letters to Fauci based on the misinformation. NIAID received hundreds of threatening calls Monday from people inflamed by the misleading reports.
Had right-wing outlets checked with the NIH, they would know that in another study, which didn’t involve Tunisia and didn’t involve flies, NIAID-funded researchers did indeed perform cordectomies on 44 beagle puppies and euthanized them after the study. And here’s why: The Food and Drug Administration requires researchers to experiment on non-rodent mammals for certain classes of HIV-AIDS drugs, and for this study specifically recommended dogs. It is necessary to use young dogs (six to eight months) to assess whether the drugs retard growth. It is mandatory that the dogs be euthanized so researchers can search for damage to organ systems. And it is recommended by the Association for Assessment and Accreditation of Laboratory Animal Care that the dogs undergo cordectomies to reduce anxiety (in dogs) and hearing loss (in humans) from barking. (Beagles are used because of their uniform size.)
Above all, this is no frivolous pursuit: The drugs under study are promising next-generation antiretrovirals that can be administered to HIV/AIDS patients less frequently — potentially saving countless human lives.
No doubt people can find some clunkers in the thousands of studies NIAID funds each year — it has 10,000 active projects — but what’s happening now is an endless game of gotcha by Fauci’s right-wing critics, who are bitter about his aggressive fight against covid-19 and his criticism of the Trump administration’s woeful handling of the pandemic. His foes file Freedom of Information Act requests and search for material that could embarrass him.
These foes are barking triumphantly because the NIH last week notified Congress that it had just learned that one of its grant recipients conducted a “limited experiment” with the Wuhan, China, lab testing whether bat coronaviruses could bind to human receptors in mice. It’s not of great consequence — the viruses were “very distant” from the one that causes covid-19, the NIH said — but it appears to contradict Fauci’s claim that no “gain of function” work was funded.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who regularly spars with Fauci, wants him to be prosecuted. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) tweeted Monday that “Anthony Fauci’s NIH funded the Wuhan lab that ‘did indeed enhance a bat coronavirus to become potentially more infectious to humans.’ And Fauci’s NIH was involved in torturing puppies. Remind me again how Fauci still has a job???”
Here’s how. Millions of people are alive today because of his work against AIDS, covid-19 and more. The anti-science forces of Trump, Murdoch, Paul and Cruz will continue to spew disinformation. But I’m grateful for Fauci — and so is my puppy.

Tl:dr Fauci dindu nuffin, that was a different dog torturing study and we're making them into AIDS medicine so it's for a good cause, trust the science.

 

[make_it_so]

How did Kushner and the Neoconservatives even find the hole Fauci was hiding in? Sheesh.

Because prior to all the bullshit surrounding COVID-19, I don't think Fauci was a particularly political person. He was just another scientist/bureaucrat in DC that had an impressive looking resume.

 

[gaystoner]

FAFO

 

[Art Kassul]

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So how long until the dems give Fauci a tour of the underside of a moving bus?

The term 'Fauci Ouchie' has taken on a particularly sinister tone over this last week. His name will forever be associated with horror and folly.

 

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Because prior to all the bullshit surrounding COVID-19, I don't think Fauci was a particularly political person. He was just another scientist/bureaucrat in DC that had an impressive looking resume.

Only because they politicized COVID-19.

He did almost the exact same thing -- forced an inferior, if not lethally dangerous, but profitable treatment and got a cheap and better alternative banned -- during the HIV Pandemic.

Hell, he even tried that "double mask" thing, although it was "double condoms" back then, I believe.

 

[AMERICA]

The ostensible purpose was to get them thoroughly infested to test a medication meant to kill that species of infestation.

It's even worse than that. I read through the original study, it wasn't testing a new medication, they were trying to determine if dogs already infected with sandworms are more attractive to other sandworms looking for a host. They concluded that that is the case, and the authors then suggested that dogs infected with sandworms should be targeted first by animal control in South Africa for this reason. Unless there was a follow-up study involving a medication that I'm unaware of?

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

Maybe they just tax all "potential" earned income as well, as in they can look at ones career and come up with a formula to calculate the maximum they could earn in a "good year" then tax that amount. That sounds so wonderful and progressive.

Or maybe take it a step further and calculate everyone's income on if they were say a brain surgeon, then tax that amount even if someone is a fork lift driver.

None of the above is really any less offensive than "unrealized capital gains".

So basically child support then?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

There is almost no reason to use animals for research, it's all been done before. The reason studies like that are done is to get that grant money. I'm glad there's outrage over this because its wrong and immoral to inflict pain and make animals suffer, especially when there's no true benefit to anyone-not to humans or the animals themselves.

My dad once worked for a man who owned a Terminix franchise, sometimes I'd come along to hang out with his daughter. We'd swim or run and play with the family German Shepards. Years later I mentioned it to my dad and he smiled, saying the guy was a real character who told him over whisky "I'll kill anyone who messes with my dog, my wife or my kids; in that order".

I totally understand that man now.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Humorously enough, the reveal about the beagle experimentation might have been a last straw for JonTron that he's blasting it on Twitter amongst other things denigrating Fauci. Responses have been rather evenly split down the middle, either thanking him for speaking out about how Fauci is a monster, or ignoramuses branding Jon an anti-vaxx science denying MAGA chud due to his past controversial statements.

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I was waiting for some new shit from JonTron. Didn't expect shit would be this real.

 

[GuntPunt]

Ever since the Destiny debate, JonTron has stayed clear of political discourse due to backlash.

The puppy story must've pissed him off to no end if he decided to come back into the arena after years of sealed lips on current events and deteriorating discourse conditions since 2016.

 

[deso2y]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KILL MY DOGGO! NOT MY HECKIN' GOOD BOY! NOT MY CHONKY LONGBOI MLEM BORK BORK BOOP SNOOT PUPPERINO! NOOOO!
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NOOOOOO NOT THE WOOFER DOGGO NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN POOR GOODBOI PUPPERINO BORKER LONGBOI CLOUDY BOI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE BAMBOOZLED MLEM BLEP BORKING FLUFFER DOGGERINO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOUR DOIN ME A FRIGHTEN I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW
NOOO NOT THE LE WOOFER DOGGO MLEM NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE LE LONGBOI BARKER SNOOTER PUPPERINO PUPPER NOOOOOOOO UR DOIN ME A HECKIN FRIGHTEN BY HURTING THE BLEPPER DOGGER BORKER CHONKER FLOOFER I AM BAMBOOZLED
NOOOOOO NOT THE WOOFER DOGGO NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN POOR GOODBOI PUPPERINO BORKER LONGBOI CLOUDY BOI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE BAMBOOZLED MLEM BLEP BORKING FLUFFER DOGGERINO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOUR DOIN ME A FRIGHTEN I'M SO ANGRY

 

[Another Sperg on the Net]

One thing to note is that a lot if these studies and experiments Fauci signed off on funding be it Gain of Function or needless Dog Torture is that they were done overseas because they would never clear an ethical review board in the U.S.

 

[TV's Adam West]

I really don't get the fucking idea that there was election fraud. The amount of skill and closed lips needed would be fucking absurd.

This is the same government who couldn't cover up the Watergate scandal, a break in to a shitty motel. Imagine trying to cover up fucking election fraud.