Tess Holliday / Ryann Maegen Hoven - Beached Landwhale model, Body positive and social justice snacktivist, and gigantic fraud

How much does Ryann weigh?

  • 300-350lbs (Panda Bear)

    Votes: 26 1.0%
  • 350-400lbs (Bull Caribou)

    Votes: 146 5.5%
  • 400-450lbs (Heart of a Blue Whale)

    Votes: 379 14.2%
  • 450-500lbs (Pigmy Hippo)

    Votes: 545 20.5%
  • 500-550lbs (Domestic Pig)

    Votes: 394 14.8%
  • 550-600lbs (Baby Grand Piano)

    Votes: 318 12.0%
  • 600-650lbs (Vending Machine)

    Votes: 192 7.2%
  • 650+ (A Fucking Planet)

    Votes: 661 24.8%

  • Total voters
    2,661
as an artfag, rubens is honestly not a great example. he was seen as unusual for his fat lady art, and his saving grace was the tonnes of jesus pics he did for the church. if fat ladies were such a beauty ideal, you'd see many more of them in other people's paintings.

historically, the beauty ideal WAS somewhat plump compared to the 90s heroin chic, but it was still women who looked healthy and would be still considered attractive today. in contrast, todays marketing has entirely skipped out on "healthy but not size 00" demographic and overshoot to obesity; media will never celebrate normal healthy women because that doesn't sell you anything.
I agree on that, hence why I called Rubens a chubby chaser. But as pointed out before, Tess and the Bodypositive Lamdwhales love to use the term Rubenesque to describe their very excessive bodymass. Despite being the size of two Rubens women. At least.

I also hopped down a bit the rabbit hole about fat sideshow ladies. Jolly Irene whose photo I posted earlier, started as a slim women of 120 pounds and apparently a pregnancy fucked up her glands and she ballooned up. She died at age 65. She was said to be a very cheerful pleasant character.

Then there was another sideshow performer going by the popular stage name Dolly Dimples. After a massive health scare, she went on a diet, kept the weight off and became an advocate for healthy diets. Dolly died at the age of eighty. She was kind of a victim of her family's eating habits. SIX FULL MEALS A DAY!!!

But both examples showed me that Tess, with her shitty attitude and lack of any talent and charisma would even suck as the Fat Lady at a sideshow.
 
The Donald duck purse from the fat disney shots is from loungefly, and therefore nothing Supa moddle ish, just your average adult disney autism
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FA gorls love to throw around “rubenesque” but actual Rubens painting women would be shouted down for “thin privilege” today and belittled for being able to shop in straight-size stores.

I’ve never understood this argument anyway: history is filled with massively obese people who used to be considered very attractive until The White Man ruined it with patriarchy…but also they were erased and overlooked by history and that’s why they’re non-existent in historical records? Then how do you know they were so idolized, if there are no records?

You’d think if Ye Olde People were so mad for 600 lb women, there would be more (any) paintings of them. And they wouldn’t be featured as sideshow freaks or court jesters because they’d be seen as normal, since there were so dang many of them and they were so beautiful and strong and capable.

Tess can’t even put her own shoes on, she has to wear slides or other shoes she can easily wedge her feet into without hands. Nobody five hundred years ago survived on the daily without the mobility to do basic tasks. I’d love to see Tess get up at dawn, light a fire, dress herself in several layers, cook everyone’s breakfast, clean the house, scrub several tubs of laundry by hand, feed the animals, bring in firewood, and by then it’s not even noon.
Well there was Sancho the Fat, the only historical deathfat I know of. He was 240kg (528lbs). He was a king of Leon (in modern Spain). When he got to be immobile he actually lost his throne over it. So his physician literally sewed his mouth shut so he could only drink small amounts. He got down to a normal size after a year or so.

His case is featured in this video starting at 8:44.


So as you can see medieval people were big about HAES.
 
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I 'd imagine there must be cultural differences as well. For instamce, the English "ideal" has always been painfully unhealthy - pale, extremely slim girls who fainted regularly were a romantic ideal borne from our ingrained class system. Only the very rich could afford to be like that because working women developed solid, muscular builds and were exposed to the sun therefore weren't these pale wilting lilies that only the idle wealthy could possibly be.

Same thing for Chinese feet-binding, which originated in the very highest classes. Right up to today in India, where the paler-skinned girls have a much higher marriage "value" (snaaarl) because it is still associated with wealth. And of course there are countries where size is valued (such as the girls of....er....forgotten where) who are deliberately fattened up but again, because obesity is seen as a sign of leisure therefore higher class. But even here, the idea of being so fat you can barely move is recognised as unsustainable and of low value.

The media has managed to create this strange cognitive dissonance where we watch skeletal foetuses stagger down a catwalk and at the same time are told larger women were seen as the beauty ideals of the past. Someone who knows more about fashion can speak to this but it seems that all of the famous dresses we still have access to are tiny, from Queen Victoria's wedding dress to the Peacock Dress to Marilyn Monroe's stunning Kennedy Gala dress. We're TOLD she was a size 14/16 but that is just a number; even by smaller Brit sizing that dress isn't a 14.

And this is something that bugs the shit out of me about the HAES movement. IF they really had a purposeful, reasonable agenda all they need do is look at the multiple instances where size is seen as a reflection of status and value and go after that, because it is genuinely harmful and girls suffer worldwide in a number of ways just to meet marriage values. But they don't. Their only interest is in reeeeeing from the safety of countries where women are emancipated and no longer have "marital value" about their rights to be enormous and to be adored for it and nothing else. TenTon has not got the faintest sliver of an idea about where these ideas even came from, their place within a much wider context of fucking around with girls bodies to meet antiquated values or even their relevance in first world countries today. Not a fucking clue. She's only interested in one aspect and her interest in that stretches only to needing to be told she's the mOsT BooTiFuLl3sT eVA and anyone who doesn't do so is some kind of patriarchal shill.

We don't despise you for being fat, TenTon. We despise your laziness, your entitlement and above all, your ignorance. She and her ilk do more harm to the real issues and frankly, she's best when she's doing what she does best - at least when she's stuffing her face, she isn't talking.


Sorry gorls. I don't know who this imposter is with all their Serious who has taken over but Idiot Clanger will prevail and return.



Eta: @Cripple I think Louis XVI was a bloater as well. He'd basically eat the table whilst Marie Antoinette sipped clear chicken broth....to stay slim! Isn't it just a bitch that history refuses to conform to the narrative TenTon and her whale-pod want to tell?
 
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Tess wants you all to know a fact that are definitely true because someone shared it on the gram!
So I don't really care too strong about this covid-19 stuff. I got the shot, I think people should get the shot, but I don't care if you don't get it, I don't want to force it on you, and I like how people not getting the shot is annoying the shit out of all the people who deserve to be annoyed - politicians, experts of various stripes, the woke, obesity advocates etc.

But as a thought experiment, let's say we mandated covid-19 vaccination and maybe at best saved 400k lives/year right now - a number that will drop to sub 10k in the next 10 years regardless of what we do. However, if we would simply banned the sale of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in the US, we'd save at least 870k lives annually every year for decades and decades to come. Math is pretty simple: there's about 80k of 2T diabetes deaths/year, 40k of fatty liver deaths/year, 350k obesity induced heart attack deaths/year, at least 120k obesity induced cancer deaths/year, and 280k miscellaneous obesity deaths/year. It would even make a sizeable dent in the covid-19 death stats Tess is so worried about. Mind you, we don't need to have an official "war on sugar", we simply need to ban its sale in normal stores etc. so you need to get the stuff from the streets and that'll be enough to turn the tide around.

What's so annoying, and typical, with these obesity advocates is that they never take responsibility for anything at all. Instead they demand that the entire society bends over backwards to make their existence slightly easier - a crazy demand from someone who is entirely responsible for their own misery and has the keys to solve it in a few years if they really wanted to. Okay, I'll give the soapbox back for now.
 
I 'd imagine there must be cultural differences as well. For instamce, the English "ideal" has always been painfully unhealthy - pale, extremely slim girls who fainted regularly were a romantic ideal borne from out ingrained class system. Only the very rich could afford to be like that because working women developed solid, muscular builds and were exposed to the sun therefore weren't these pale wilting lilies that only the idle wealthy could possibly be.

Same thing for Chinese feet-binding, which originated in the very highest classes. Right up to today in India, where the paler-skinned girls have a much higher marriage "value" (snaaarl) because it is still associated with wealth. And if course there are countries where size is valued (such as the girls of....er....forgotten where) who are deliberately fattened up but again, because obesity is seen as a sign of leisure therefore higher class. But even here, the idea of being so fat you can barely move is recognised as unsustainable and of low value.

The media has managed to create this strange cognitive dissonance where we watch skeletal foetuses stagger down a catwalk and at the same time are told larger women were seen as the beauty ideals of the past. Someone who knows more about fashion can speak to this but it seems that all of the famous dresses we still have access to are tiny, from Queen Victoria's wedding dress to the Peacock Dress to Marilyn Monroe's stunning Kennedy Gala dress. We're TOLD she was a size 14/16 but that is just a number; even by smaller Brit sizing that dress isn't a 14.

And this is something that bugs the shit out of me about the HAES movement. IF they really had a purposeful, reasonable agenda all they need do is look at the multiple instances where size is seen as a reflection of status and value and go after that, because it is genuinely harmful and girls suffer worldwide in a number of ways just to meet marriage values. But they don't. Their only interest is in reeeeeing from the safety of countries where women are emancipated and no longer have "marital value" about their rights to be enormous and to be adored for it and nothing else. TenTon has not got the faintest sliver of an idea about where these ideas even came from, their place within a much wider context of fucking around with girls bodies to meet antiquated values or even their relevance in first world countries today. Not a fucking clue. She's only interested in one aspect and her interest in that stretches only to needing to be told she's the mOsT BooTiFuLl3sT eVA and anyone who doesn't do so is some kind of patriarchal shill.

We don't despise you for being fat, TenTon. We despise your laziness, your entitlement and above all, your ignorance. She and her ilk do more harm to the real issues and frankly, she's best when she's doing what she does best - at least when she's stuffing her face, she isn't talking.


Sorry gorls. I don't know who this imposter is with all their Serious who has taken over but Idiot Clanger will prevail and return.



Eta: @Cripple I think Louis XVI was a bloated as well. He'd basically eat the table whilst Marie Antoinette sipped clear chicken broth....to stay slim! Isn't it just a notch that history refuses to conform to the narrative TenTon and her whale-pod want to tell?
King Henry VIII after he injured his leg definitely got up there as well, along with the older Catherine the Great. Marie Antoinette had a bitchy mother who'd write her daughters angry, shaming letters if the ambassador tattled so it doesn't surprise me if she felt compelled to keep her figure. Obviously these figures are all royalty and the only people who could afford seven meals with seventeen dishes a day ala Sancho the Fat.

Nowadays people can still go broke eating as much as Sancho the Fat Corissa and Julianna, Jen X, and even Tess are all in worst financial condition for it. Nevertheless it remains possible in the modern era for just about anyone because the government more or less subsidizes it. Catherine the Great and Henry VIII definitely had no problem waving their enormous ham hands at the starving peasants.

Though to be fair to Catherine she still did the more to help serfs than anyone had in the previous 500 years due to legal overhaul. She still didn't subsidize obesity though.
 
And of course there are countries where size is valued (such as the girls of....er....forgotten where) who are deliberately fattened up but again, because obesity is seen as a sign of leisure therefore higher class.
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What's so annoying, and typical, with these obesity advocates is that they never take responsibility for anything at all. Instead they demand that the entire society bends over backwards to make their existence slightly easier - a crazy demand from someone who is entirely responsible for their own misery and has the keys to solve it in a few years if they really wanted to. Okay, I'll give the soapbox back for now.
It's a good soapbox, though, because you're totally right, especially when it comes to Tess. Your example is a perfect one; a jab is a one-time thing that means Tess doesn't have to change her normal life, but dieting and exercise is something that would require her life to change.

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So I don't really care too strong about this covid-19 stuff. I got the shot, I think people should get the shot, but I don't care if you don't get it, I don't want to force it on you, and I like how people not getting the shot is annoying the shit out of all the people who deserve to be annoyed - politicians, experts of various stripes, the woke, obesity advocates etc.

But as a thought experiment, let's say we mandated covid-19 vaccination and maybe at best saved 400k lives/year right now - a number that will drop to sub 10k in the next 10 years regardless of what we do. However, if we would simply banned the sale of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in the US, we'd save at least 870k lives annually every year for decades and decades to come. Math is pretty simple: there's about 80k of 2T diabetes deaths/year, 40k of fatty liver deaths/year, 350k obesity induced heart attack deaths/year, at least 120k obesity induced cancer deaths/year, and 280k miscellaneous obesity deaths/year. It would even make a sizeable dent in the covid-19 death stats Tess is so worried about. Mind you, we don't need to have an official "war on sugar", we simply need to ban its sale in normal stores etc. so you need to get the stuff from the streets and that'll be enough to turn the tide around.

What's so annoying, and typical, with these obesity advocates is that they never take responsibility for anything at all. Instead they demand that the entire society bends over backwards to make their existence slightly easier - a crazy demand from someone who is entirely responsible for their own misery and has the keys to solve it in a few years if they really wanted to. Okay, I'll give the soapbox back for now.
Although I agree with you on the Covid stuff (got my vaccination but feel everybody should take care of themselves as they see fit), I feel that way about sugar too.

Sure, there are a lot of fatties out there who will die early and eat far too much junk, but there are also the other half the population who are slim or normal weight and don’t overdo it, and why should their occasional bag of skittles be banned?

The solution is to put shame back into the equation, and put any burden on being overweight onto the fat person. They should have higher health costs-they cost more. Require them to be weighed before getting on an airplane if they didn’t buy two tickets, all the way down the line. No disability for something they control, no protected class stuff.

These fat girls on social media do get a lot of negative comments and they should. Probably would get a lot more if people weren’t so worried about their feelings and some group coming down on them. The media has to stop falling for this HAES shit, doctors need to prescribe exercise not Vyvance.

Go to Asia, where people are apparently outspoken and thin, and these whales always are shocked and get their fee fees hurt by the aunties who’ll laugh in their face and their inability to buy clothing and be served normal portions. We should be more like them, but of course, that won’t happen.

My state banned trans fats in products. Little Korean donut stores had to change recipes, get new oil suppliers, etc, and now donuts taste like shit, big companies who want to sell their cakes here had to change too- but people are still fat. You can’t ban your way out of this.

In ten years, everybody will have either been vaccinated or had Covid, and this thing will be like the flu. People like Tess, Anna, Chantel, and actual famous people like Chrissy Metz will have a heart attack and die early and people will take note. People will start to see that no, you can’t be healthy and be obese and things will correct back. I hope.

I await my rainbows.

On another not, I tend to look at all bags people carry and Tess has never carried that pink Chanel. I don’t think she really got it-or if she did, she sold it instantly.
 
So did Henry VIII. He was not only massive when he finally carked but pretty much pre-rotted, bits had been falling off for ages. By the time they 'd sorted out a State Funeral so much cadaver gas had built up in him that he blew up half-way through his super posh nobby funeral.

One minute it's all pomp n circumstance and the next? KA-BLOOEY!
 
So did Henry VIII. He was not only massive when he finally carked but pretty much pre-rotted, bits had been falling off for ages. By the time they 'd sorted out a State Funeral so much cadaver gas had built up in him that he blew up half-way through his super posh nobby funeral.

One minute it's all pomp n circumstance and the next? KA-BLOOEY!
God I would kill for Henry viii to be a contemporary person with a thread here
 
Off topic, but we would have so much fun speculating on his wife dramas.
And it's wild but the majority of non-Catholic privately educated kids in my state of Australia are Anglican, so basically all my schooling in Melbourne was set by the rules Henry helped lay out. His influence is absolutely real here and I'm in bloody Australia. Wild

Anyway, lol Henry would not have sex with Tess
 
Tess is in London still, last we heard she’s sick. She hasn’t posted anything about being in London the last couple days, which is weird because the first couple of days we got so many selfie’s and photos of her binging on food and alcohol. Anyone think she got Covid? Either way she must be bedridden for her not to be posting a copious amount of selfies across England.
 
She better fucking not have covid...

She's exactly the tourist nobody needs at the moment. Here for no purpose, steaming around all over the place and has she worn a mask after she got off the plane? Has she bollocks.

She's a bloody super-spreader all by herself and I will be raging if this fat lump of useless ends up being treated for free on the NHS, because that's what we do. Our healthcare is free even to mastodons who come from outside even during a pandemic then rampage up and down the country spreading their germs. Somehow, I doubt she has health insurance in the US...

Here's hoping TenTon is just back home being jet-lagged so she can ignore her kids some more.

On the plus side, if she HAS got CoVid, doctors her give no fucks about telling you you're a flubster who needs to put the fork down. She can wheeze about HAES and fat-shaming until she's blue but we have no interest in feather-bedding her delusions. Can you imagine the PTSD she'll get from bluntly being told she needs to lose weight? Hopefully it'll be enough of an ego blow to ensure she never comes back.
 
Sure, there are a lot of fatties out there who will die early and eat far too much junk, but there are also the other half the population who are slim or normal weight and don’t overdo it, and why should their occasional bag of skittles be banned?

The solution is to put shame back into the equation, and put any burden on being overweight onto the fat person. They should have higher health costs-they cost more. Require them to be weighed before getting on an airplane if they didn’t buy two tickets, all the way down the line. No disability for something they control, no protected class stuff.

These fat girls on social media do get a lot of negative comments and they should. Probably would get a lot more if people weren’t so worried about their feelings and some group coming down on them. The media has to stop falling for this HAES shit, doctors need to prescribe exercise not Vyvance.
The problem is that, in the US, it's not "the other half of the population" who're slim or normal weight according to statistics - in fact, it's 29.8%. The share of obese and overweight people also keeps rising. The trend is that normal people become overweight, overweight become obese, and obese become extremely obese. So the practical data points out that almost nobody can handle the amounts of sugar currently available. I know that Kiwi's are probably the exemption in the sense that most of us seem to be normal weight and our sugar consumption is not a problem for us (or anyone else). I personally tend to eat 1-2 ice-creams a day, but my BMI is 24 and I'm tall (over 6ft) which is known to skew the BMI chart higher. The problem with sugar is that it's probably the only addictive compound that people in general don't realize the danger of. Most obese people seem to have enablers that simply don't exist to the same degree for people addicted to alcohol or harder drugs. And even if you would ban sugar it wouldn't stop things from tasting sweet - we have things like erythritol, monk fruit extract, sucralose, aspartame and pure glucose that are all healthier than the consumption of table sugar or high fructose corn syrup.

I would love to bring shame back, but I suspect we're far beyond the point of it mattering. Even if one airline would have people weighed for a second seat it would simply alienate the customers and move them over to another airline. And if that wasn't enough it seems that at least a quarter of the population suffer from some level of wokeish mental illness that would increase the risk of random people lashing out against that airline. I guess the point is that it's difficult to shame someone into something that would not only require them to change their opinion, but to change a large part of their appearance.

I'm personally not happy that obese girls get so much negativity as that only seems to make them gain more weight. It would be better if these girls would simply be ignored or even better removed from social media so that they can't inflict additional damage on society by making their behavior even more normalized.
 
The problem is that, in the US, it's not "the other half of the population" who're slim or normal weight according to statistics - in fact, it's 29.8%. The share of obese and overweight people also keeps rising. The trend is that normal people become overweight, overweight become obese, and obese become extremely obese. So the practical data points out that almost nobody can handle the amounts of sugar currently available. I know that Kiwi's are probably the exemption in the sense that most of us seem to be normal weight and our sugar consumption is not a problem for us (or anyone else). I personally tend to eat 1-2 ice-creams a day, but my BMI is 24 and I'm tall (over 6ft) which is known to skew the BMI chart higher. The problem with sugar is that it's probably the only addictive compound that people in general don't realize the danger of. Most obese people seem to have enablers that simply don't exist to the same degree for people addicted to alcohol or harder drugs. And even if you would ban sugar it wouldn't stop things from tasting sweet - we have things like erythritol, monk fruit extract, sucralose, aspartame and pure glucose that are all healthier than the consumption of table sugar or high fructose corn syrup.

I would love to bring shame back, but I suspect we're far beyond the point of it mattering. Even if one airline would have people weighed for a second seat it would simply alienate the customers and move them over to another airline. And if that wasn't enough it seems that at least a quarter of the population suffer from some level of wokeish mental illness that would increase the risk of random people lashing out against that airline. I guess the point is that it's difficult to shame someone into something that would not only require them to change their opinion, but to change a large part of their appearance.

I'm personally not happy that obese girls get so much negativity as that only seems to make them gain more weight. It would be better if these girls would simply be ignored or even better removed from social media so that they can't inflict additional damage on society by making their behavior even more normalized.
Haven’t checked but pretty sure I’m in one of the “fat states”, and around here in the poor areas there are public health billboards that warn against it.

Not sure how HAES “activists” haven’t gotten to them yet, probably because it’s the ghetto.
I saw one the other day that said “Obecity USA” that looked patriotic and got a good giggle out of it.
At least there are organizations still willing to call it what it is.
 
I enjoy an offtopic detour as much as any but we are missing out on posts to laugh and ridicule Tess.

Do we think she got stuck in the baths because no one can help pull her out? She is now going to be a unique part the of Spa package at aire baths London? "Take a moment of reflection and gaze upon this molten mound of cisco which has beached herself on these bricks, a sobering moment in mindfulness.

Then please join us later for your complimentary glass of wine "

Anyway I assume she is "healing" her narc injury from the rejections with a 3 day cake and cocaine bender in a hotel room. The weather has been really very good for the UK and in London. So there's been plenty of Selfie moments.

Her bath set pictures btw have put ranked her other instagram posts significantly. It has 137k likes and 3k comments vs 22.7k and 400 comments for the restaurant posts. 29k and 600 comments for the Wales trip. In direct comparison to more "sexy" posts her bratty bottom top set is still 79k with 1k comments.

Beached whale go "cha ching"
 
I enjoy an offtopic detour as much as any but we are missing out on posts to laugh and ridicule Tess.

Do we think she got stuck in the baths because no one can help pull her out? She is now going to be a unique part the of Spa package at aire baths London? "Take a moment of reflection and gaze upon this molten mound of cisco which has beached herself on these bricks, a sobering moment in mindfulness.

Then please join us later for your complimentary glass of wine "

Anyway I assume she is "healing" her narc injury from the rejections with a 3 day cake and cocaine bender in a hotel room. The weather has been really very good for the UK and in London. So there's been plenty of Selfie moments.

Her bath set pictures btw have put ranked her other instagram posts significantly. It has 137k likes and 3k comments vs 22.7k and 400 comments for the restaurant posts. 29k and 600 comments for the Wales trip. In direct comparison to more "sexy" posts her bratty bottom top set is still 79k with 1k comments.

Beached whale go "cha ching"

She's definitely not going on a cocaine bender. Cocaine would probably help her loose a bit of weight. Cake on the other hand, she will have plenty (and booz too) :drink:
 
Sorry, history sperging too. I'm a bit hazy on before Victoriana - pretty much all comes under 600 years of religious nutters fighting and general misery in the Clanger brain; only all the beer made it tolerable - but I'm very sure that nowhere, nohow and no time were obscenely fat, lazy, mooching fucks the norm. 99% of women were peasants or servants and it was cows all the way; the 1% were expected to maintain themselves and Set an Example to the plebs.
Peasants and servants have been the 99% throughout history, and they worked hard. Take it all the way back to ancient Egypt, where beer and bread were the staple food. Even horking down all those carbs, being fat was rare! It was seen as a privilege of the educated classes, mostly the scribes: men would have themselves depicted with a few tell-tale lines on their statues, to indicate belly rolls. And their idea of fat would be considered shitlord smallfat at most.

Yet the ideal body for kings and queens was as skinny as the peasant, and that was how they showed themselves on their tomb paintings. Even in cases where we have the mummy and know the actual person was on the chunky side, their perfect body--the one they wanted to have in the afterlife--was slim and strong, so they depicted themselves that way. Their ritual phrase was "ankh, wedja, seneb": "life, health, strength."
Tess is in London still, last we heard she’s sick. She hasn’t posted anything about being in London the last couple days, which is weird because the first couple of days we got so many selfie’s and photos of her binging on food and alcohol. Anyone think she got Covid? Either way she must be bedridden for her not to be posting a copious amount of selfies across England.
It sounds like she went on a pretty intense bender for her, so she may still be recovering. Bar-hopping means a lot of walking, too, which probably didn't help.

Hopefully she doesn't have COVID. It's scary as hell to be sick and alone, thousands of miles from home.
 
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