Trainwreck Jill C Noyes Rodrigues / David Rodrigues / Rodrigues Family Ministries / Rodrigues Family Serving Jesus / All Things Truth Printing Ministry - Batshit MLM-shill narc mom of 13 starving children and her jobless "headship". Grifting and drifting across the US in an RV. Wanted by WV CPS.

multiverse said:
Lol, their two week old baby? He was on the trip too, naturally. With Grandma Mimi. Probably dangling him over the edge of the boat. Definitely letting the sun shine in his eyes so he wakes up for her video.
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Omfg nothing like a 2 week old in a cold breezy boat during a pandemic and flu season around unmasked strangers.
 
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Fareal said:
I actually don't know. The periods for ritual purification and confinement postpartum are in Leviticus, but that might be one of the bits of Leviticus that fundies think doesn't apply to them and don't bother with it.

Do fundies observe Candlemas? The Feast of Purification? If so, he would know that this holy day commemorates the presentation of Our Lady in the temple after she had observed the rites relating to postpartum purification. Even in comparatively recent times, women were still "churched". I was called for special blessing each time I reappeared postpartum, so the tradition still continues in some form.

The thing is, if Nathan as a fundie knows about any of that stuff, he knows the reason behind it is that the Lord commanded special treatment for women for a period after birth. The special treatment involved them staying in the fucking house, i.e. resting. And also not to get any dick. (I don't trust Nathan to have had the good sense to understand why he must leave Nurie alone for some weeks, although I am reluctant to think he would actually hurt her. But still, I'm not sure he will understand why the full six weeks is important.)

Like most early religious commandments - especially those in the Old Testament - this is a public health issue. If women were ritually unclean, they stayed home, husbands did not interfere with them, they were generally only with women and those close to them, they weren't out in the streets or working. This was to let them rest and get better. (It's not a sin issue because no sin attaches in the OT or the texts derived from it to the act of childbirth itself. It's just made clear that until after a passage of about four to eight weeks, the woman's activities are to be restricted, and the strongest prohibition that could be imposed was ritual uncleanliness.)

I know this is an autistic tangent, but well, fundies are religiously autistic.
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Fundies of their stripe follow the post-birth period of absence from the old testament. However Candlemas and the Feast of Purification are both considered pagan rites of the evil Catholics.
 
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latter day taint said:
Fundies of their stripe follow the post-birth period of absence from the old testament. However Candlemas and the Feast of Purification are both considered pagan rites of the evil Catholics.
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They have a point tbh, we are pretty into our pagan rites. Accretion of local beliefs and customs under a convenient veil of Catholicism is pretty much a feature of the Church everywhere. Most priests I know will let the parishoners have a Hallowe'en party for the kids in the church hall, even. And we always get our Hogmanay in the hall for the folk who've no family to go to.
 
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Barely walk but is out fking around.
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Vi0l3t said:
Barely walk but is out fking around.
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So Nurie ripped from pussy to asshole with no painkillers or even an IV, and the backwoods birth factory midwives just sent her home a few hours later with no follow up. Nurie’s pain got worse and worse until she can't walk, and still Jill is demanding she perform in church and entertain mama by going out and about. STILL no one has taken Nurie to a doctor - that red "wheelchair" is your bog standard fatty scooter / walker from Walmart, which is why it's so wide - and she's obviously getting worse, not better.

If Nurie dies of poor nursing post birth, I hope local authorities charge Nathan with medical neglect of his wife. What the actual fuck.

Someone please get her antibiotics, pain control, and rest.
 
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TheCakeIsALie said:
So a perineal laceration. Depending on how severe it is, it may require stitches. This is a common issue and a proper doctor would have fixed it. And the tear can reopen or get worse, or cause infection. Yeesh.
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I was in the hospital with mine, but I thought the standard of care everywhere was that tears were repaired immediately, even minor ones. You get stitched before they even let you off the bed you gave birth in. They start in as soon as they are confident the placenta is all out. Or that bed is wheeled to theatre if you need a big ticket repair. If she has significant perineal tearing, surely even midwives wouldn't have just shrugged, decided "she'll be right" and let her toddle off? I know in the US not all midwives are required to be specialist nurses, but I'm still struggling to think how they just let someone with significant tearing leave?

For one thing, how would they stop the bleeding without a decent attempt at repair? I suppose I'm trying to figure out whether the tearing is really bad, or the tearing is so-so but is now infected. The latter is probably more dangerous. I see episiotomy was mentioned in Jill's snarky comment: there's no way you can't walk for pain a week after an episiotomy, if it was normally performed and healing without infection. It's not a nice idea, but it heals about as fast as a minor tear with stitches. If it was an epi, you'd expect the stitches to come out by themselves in about seven to ten days. Nurie should actually have fairly minimal discomfort in the tear site by now. Definitely not wheelchair level, but I'll give her a pass on the donut cushion.

If Nurie is legitimately in this much pain a week postpartum after a medically uncomplicated vaginal delivery, that is not anywhere on the spectrum of "normal" recovery and she needs to see a doctor. In fact she probably needs to go to hospital, because something is far wrong there.
 
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Fareal said:
I was in the hospital with mine, but I thought the standard of care everywhere was that tears were repaired immediately, even minor ones. You get stitched before they even let you off the bed you gave birth in. They start in as soon as they are confident the placenta is all out. Or that bed is wheeled to theatre if you need a big ticket repair. If she has significant perineal tearing, surely even midwives wouldn't have just shrugged, decided "she'll be right" and let her toddle off? I know in the US not all midwives are required to be specialist nurses, but I'm still struggling to think how they just let someone with significant tearing leave?

For one thing, how would they stop the bleeding without a decent attempt at repair? I suppose I'm trying to figure out whether the tearing is really bad, or the tearing is so-so but is now infected. The latter is probably more dangerous. I see episiotomy was mentioned in Jill's snarky comment: there's no way you can't walk for pain a week after an episiotomy, if it was normally performed and healing without infection. It's not a nice idea, but it heals about as fast as a minor tear with stitches. If it was an epi, you'd expect the stitches to come out by themselves in about seven to ten days. Nurie should actually have fairly minimal discomfort in the tear site by now. Definitely not wheelchair level, but I'll give her a pass on the donut cushion.

If Nurie is legitimately in this much pain a week postpartum after a medically uncomplicated vaginal delivery, that is not anywhere on the spectrum of "normal" recovery and she needs to see a doctor. In fact she probably needs to go to hospital, because something is far wrong there.
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The "birth center" she went to may not even have trained midwives, just doulas or birth coaches. It certainly had no medical staff. Fundies in general strongly advocate for home birth only, unless it's life or death; the fact that Nurie was taken anywhere at all leads me to believe that the birth was nowhere near as "fast! Painless! Natural" as Jill was implying - and that for all Jill crowed about how Nurie didn't need a single painkiller and how the birth center sent her home after mere minutes because she's such a TROOPER... it's really just that no one there sufficiently gives a shit what Nurie feels, or whether she's ok.

Nurie has been taught her entire life to endure and keep sweet at all costs, and to never, ever complain or protest anything anyone might do to her. She could well die of puerperal fever before anyone would even consider that she might need help.
 
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