Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[CWCissey]

I didn't know Judy Greer was in it?

She was a guest star in one of the earlier episodes, she seduces Leonard by reading her book in the nud then tries to wrangle a threesome with Raj and Howard.

'It's good they're holding the Olympics in the East End of London. Means the athletes will have to use extra skill to work out which gunshot is the starting pistol.'

 

[Billy Beer]

She was a guest star in one of the earlier episodes, she seduces Leonard by reading her book in the nud then tries to wrangle a threesome with Raj and Howard.

I googled it. She a filthy bitch, i love her to bits.

'It's good they're holding the Olympics in the East End of London. Means the athletes will have to use extra skill to work out which gunshot is the starting pistol.'

"Last night I watched Nigella Lawson bake some bread, and just about ripped my cock off"

Fun fact; Frankie Boyle was a joke writer for Jimmy Carr, but could never build up the courage to go on stage, especially as Jimmy can deliver the jokes beautifully. Carr convinced Frankie to give it a shot and the rest is history. Frankie hit a really bad depression which is why he ends up fat with a beard. He's an open leftist but couldn't understand the hate he got from his own political side, from making jokes. He dislikes the right wing, but couldn't understand how they were more supportive of his jokes than the left.

Will there ever be another frankie?

 

[CWCissey]

Will there ever be another frankie?

Probably not now. His jokes were a whole other level of offensiveness and that's not allowed now, hence why he's a grovelling unfunny piece of shit now.

 

[topsikrets]

So how did Berserk get ruined by politics???

lol miura was a pedo-advocate, though to be fair it wasn't ruined by "politics" so much as it was ruined by his love of lolicon.

 

[Corndog]

Tim Heidecker. Jack Black. Chelsea Peretti. Dan Harmon. Shit, the list of comedic celebrities I go out of my way to not pay attention to now that I've heard their political rantings is too long to list at this point. I will avoid watching any project they are or were involved in.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Tim Heidecker. Jack Black. Chelsea Peretti. Dan Harmon. Shit, the list of comedic celebrities I go out of my way to not pay attention to now that I've heard their political rantings is too long to list at this point. I will avoid watching any project they are or were involved in.

It was really interesting watching them just throw their sense of humor away and replace it with "orange man bad" shit. Colbert is the worst of that crowd though as he's like just fully been consumed by that brainrot to the point nobody really finds him funny anymore save for the canned laughter crowd on his show. Like holy shit we get it, you DO NOT LIKE THE ORANGE MAN and LOVE FAUCI.

 

[SandyCat]

Pretty much the entire american comic book industry

I gave up comics entirely because of it. Had to move onto manga and haven't looked back since

 

[The Lawgiver]

Pretty much the entire american comic book industry

I gave up comics entirely because of it. Had to move onto manga and haven't looked back since

getting bought out by too big to fail megacorps with shared political axes to grind will do that to an industry.

 

[SandyCat]

I got some more stuff I gave up on, just off the top of my head:

Star Wars
- Mary Sue lead, blatant token characters with zero character development, shit writing

Marvel's entire Cinematic Universe
- "We're going to focus on diversity going forward". Instantly gave up the entire MCU as I've seen how that pans out before. Looking back I feel like I made the right decision.

American Horror Story
- Started out fine, took a turn into political town quick. An entire season is called "Cult", its about a racist 4channer Trump supporter cult leader (no really).

Black Mirror
- Some episodes are perfectly fine, some episodes have clear political messages

Warhammer 40k
- Close to giving this one up. Warhammer put out some spiel about diversity and inclusion and how they're diversifying their cast and how you should leave if you don't like it. Fanbase reacts with soy infused stunning and brave clapping because nazis bad, LGBTQIA+ space marines good.

There's more I'm sure but this is just the off the top of my head.

 

[Permuto]

I never got into Warhammer 40K, but last I heard they were pretty against anything woke, at least the fanbase was. Is there really nothing left but to make your own niche hobbies and gatekeep the ever loving fuck out of it?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

gatekeep the ever loving fuck out of it

Gatekeeping doesn't work if a company wants to earn more and more money. They have to attract new costumers and change.

When you create your own niche hobby, you have to make sure that it stays that way. That includes stopping yourself from becoming greedy and not reacting to woke nagging.

 

[CWCissey]

I never got into Warhammer 40K, but last I heard they were pretty against anything woke, at least the fanbase was.

<Insert images of the Warhammer 40k kids books here>

 

[Permuto]

<Insert images of the Warhammer 40k kids books here>

Oh god why did I look that up.

Gatekeeping doesn't work if a company wants to earn more and more money. They have to attract new costumers and change.

When you create your own niche hobby, you have to make sure that it stays that way. That includes stopping yourself from becoming greedy and wanting to become mainstream.

I guess that's the problem with large IPs, I don't think every creative hobby has to be owned by a corporations, like getting into yarning or something like that. I'm trying to figure out how to make an IP that's tamper proof as long as the person in charge is alive. It can't last forever ( the upcoming bastardization of Tolkien's work proves that), but I think as long as the person in charge has an active no-nonsense approach to dealing with woke stuff then it can be done.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Gatekeeping doesn't work if a company wants to earn more and more money. They have to attract new costumers and change.

When you create your own niche hobby, you have to make sure that it stays that way. That includes stopping yourself from becoming greedy and not reacting to woke nagging.

Even if you are perfectly happy being niche, not compromising on your vision is the most important part. Entryism is a plague these people unleash upon communities they want to take over. The moment a woketard gets elevated to any position of power in a community, or when an existing moderator gets subverted into their cult, it's all over unless you immediately kick them out and ignore any and all backlash. Because once they feel they have a toehold, they'll scream like a thousand banshees at any perceived offense.

 

[CWCissey]

I'm trying to figure out how to make an IP that's tamper proof as long as the person in charge is alive. It can't last forever ( the upcoming bastardization of Tolkien's work proves that), but I think as long as the person in charge has an active no-nonsense approach to dealing with woke stuff then it can be done.

Only way I can think of to stop wokeism taking hold in your IP is to actively fight against it in life, then pull an MCA in death by declaring in your will that your characters can't be altered in anyway lest the lawyers come in and kick your arse.

 

[SandyCat]

I never got into Warhammer 40K, but last I heard they were pretty against anything woke, at least the fanbase was. Is there really nothing left but to make your own niche hobbies and gatekeep the ever loving fuck out of it?

From what I've witnessed the fan base at first was pretty anti-woke then like most other niche things they it became more popular and in turn it brought a whole new crowd with them. Games Workshop also wants their shekels so you bet they're gonna "go with the times" to maximize profits even if it means alienating their original core audience

We have transhuman astartes, they're just going to be trans in a different way now

 

[Alexander Thaut]

i don't necessarily hate marvel or dc because I can always just go and read the old stuff I enjoyed.

i hate the soy fans. the asshats. the ones that shit it up and then whine about everything.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I'm not worried about 40k as of yet because there's a good chance that GW understands that it's the same Grognards that have been buying their product for the last 3 decades, and anyone that's pouting about diversity isn't buying the books or the models. You can go to the god awful Sigmarxist reddit to find out that they're either 3D printing shit or just have never played tabletop in their lives.

 

[Pygmy Giraffe]

I think Games Workshop is sensing an opportunity to transition from selling physical products--like the tabletop game--to a far more lucrative business model selling a license to produce their IP to production studios. Look at Marvel and DC comics: they keep the lights on by selling their rights to movie and TV productions, not selling actual comic books. GW knows this and is maneuvering into position. The "You Will Not Be Missed" letter was a signal to all potential corporate partners that they don't share the right-wing politics of many of their fans, that GW is one of the Good Ones. The hyper-focus on space marines to the exclusion of all others is because their marketing dept said that space marines have the most buzz in the normiesphere. The seemingly inexplicably crackdown on fan-led content creators is because selling their IP will tolerate no competition. None of these things are by accident.

They've sensed, correctly, that their product has spilled over into wider cultural consciousness, even be non-players. The will of the long-time players, just as it was with old comics fans, will be of no consequence. Now they're going to attempt to cash in. Since the Church of Woke is the language of corporate culture, you can expect nu-Warhammer to be written like that.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Shows on The CW

It went from being obvious young adult shows that you can sit back and laugh at, until they rammed up random gay/lesbian relationships, superheroes fighting along with anarchists, strong women GOOD/strong men BAD episodes, etc.

And I haven’t begin to talk about what they did to Riverdale and The Flash.