Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Getting tard comed]

An anonymous, totally credible source you say? Well then, it's got to be true. No-one would ever make that up.

Your names incredibly ironic and you don't know why.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Bit off topic but looking up Larry the Cable Guy and turns out he isn't very political at all, he voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 and the last comment on politics he had was 'Everyone's sick of that stuff'. So right now wondering if an idiot has ever tried to cancel him or boycott him thinking he is some die-hard Trump supporter that always carries around his AK-47.

Late strawman is late; take that shit to the General Guntuber thread.

You are correct. He was using a cross draw and what you posted is the cross draw. Funny note, the Single Action Shooting Society (SASS) bans cross draw from most of their speed competitions because it's considered unsafe.

Good point, I forgot about that.

Lots of places ban cross draw, since you basically muzzle sweep everyone behind you and on your left (or your right, for southpaws) between drawing and getting on target.

Cross draw can be easier when in the saddle at speed, and when seated in general or in some kinds of tight spaces and corners. It is slower than a standard hip or drop leg draw when standing, however, and almost impossible to draw with your off hand regardless of the circumstance.

Probably the majority of commercial ranges I've visited ban it, and quite a few public ranges with rules posted specifically prohibit drawing from a holster as well; requiring all hot firearms be placed on the bench/table/firing line.

I personally use a shoulder rig while driving or at the house, but doing so means I have to consciously keep track of people around me, and modify where I stand/sit on the basis of where the muzzle is pointed (meaning nobody sits behind me). I never liked anyone loitering in my blind spots anyways, so it didn't take long for the habit to become second nature. For me, the draw is a lot faster & easier to make clean, instead of an appendix or console-mounted holster.

But practicing it around others is a serious no-go, for all the reasons described.

 

[Racist Trash]

The algorithm has been bringing this old FW gem up.

I mean I can't believe there is footage of gun Jesus breaking onto the set and replacing the gun with one with live rounds.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I mean I can't believe there is footage of gun Jesus breaking onto the set and replacing the gun with one with live rounds.

I've had a feeling it was an act of God.

 

[RodgerDodger]

For those wondering why the police haven't arrested anybody yet, after only a few days. It seems the Sheriff is taking a very broad, very thorough sift through everything. It's come out today that they found a fannypack with loose and boxed bullets and blanks. And also that it was apparently a regular acticity for bored cast and crew to wonder off set with the guns to go "plinking". And apparently these guns were used in that way earlier in the day of the shooting. The Master Armorer clearly had absolutely no control of the weapons used in the production. Nor did the AD or Producers. The cast members are also starting to turn on Baldwin and the Production. Many starting to describe just how unsafe the gun work was on the set and how scared they had been and how much they had talking about it.

This is a rather interesting one.

‘Rust’ actor says filming felt ‘life-threatening,’ raised fears of Brandon Lee-style death

Ian A. Hudson told TMZ that he was terrified filming a scene where his outlaw character was gunned down by others using 20 pistols and two rifles — all real weapons.

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An actor on Alec Baldwin’s movie “Rust” said filming felt “life-threatening” — with cast members openly discussing fears of another Brandon Lee-style deadly shooting on set.
Ian A. Hudson told TMZ that he was terrified filming a scene where his outlaw character was gunned down by others using 20 pistols and two rifles — all real weapons.
“Everyone on the camera crew was protected by shields — and the camera was protected by a shield,” he said, noting that only the lens could be seen poking through the protection.
Hannah Gutierrez Reed insists her armorer job on the “Rust” set was “a pretty sweet gig.”AP
“So that made me question me being in front of the camera and sort of in between all that fire,” he told the outlet in an interview posted early Tuesday.
“I actually did feel the blanks hitting my face and my body. I could feel the wind from the shotgun being discharged,” he said, calling it a “terrifying” production on a “rushed schedule.”
“It was heavy. It was strong … It was life-threatening. It felt too surreal.”
Ian A. Hudson said that he “held his tongue” over a lot of his concerns because he is a “new actor.”Instagram / Ian A Hudson
Even before Baldwin accidentally shot dead cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, actors on the New Mexico set openly discussed their fears that such a tragedy could happen, Hudson told TMZ.
“I would talk to my fellow cast members afterward, and we all agreed how intense that was and how scary and real it was,” the New Mexico local told the outlet.
“Brandon Lee having died in ’93 — that conversation came up a couple times between my fellow cast members and I,” he said, referring to Bruce Lee’s actor son who was shot dead in an eerily similar accident on the set of “The Crow.”
Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was killed in the accident.VIA REUTERS
“Just, you know — we’re doing this the same way they did it then, 30 years ago,” he said.
Hudson said that he “held his tongue” over a lot of his concerns because he is a “new actor” who didn’t “want to cause trouble.”
“But some of the other actors … were double- and triple-checking our weapons after the armorer gave them to us, whether they were cold or hot,” he said.
A distraught Alec Baldwin lingers in the parking lot outside the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office after the shooting accident.Jim Weber/The New Mexican
The risks that led to Hutchins’ death were particularly pointless because “they were just trying to make a movie,” the actor told TMZ.
Still, Hudson defended rookie armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed, insisting the 24-year-old ex-model had been “doing a fantastic job” while “pressed for time as much as she was.”

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“I even overheard Joel Souza, the director, praise her a couple of times for being as safe as she was and as consistent — and speedy, too, keeping up with the rushed schedule,” he said of the director, who was also injured in the shooting.
Gutierrez Reed was on only her second job as chief armorer responsible for weapons on the set.
Meanwhile, it emerged Monday that detectives recovered two boxes of “ammo” from the set after the deadly accident, listed as “loose ammo and boxes” as well as “a fanny pack w/ammo.”
The inventory of seized items did not specify if they included live or dummy bullets or blank cartridges.

Most interesting in that they have a named actor on the record as feeling really unsafe with all the questionable gunplay. "I could feel the blanks hitting my face and the blast of the shotgun" Ouch! That's not a good look for this set or production.

Oh and not unexpectedly, Conservative actor and frequent media punching bag Adam Baldwin has chimed in. (as I said way back on page 1 or 2 imagine the press coverage if this had been Adam Baldwim involved).
And yes I know it's Townhall. I'm too damn lazy at the moment to fuck with archives deal with it.

Action Star Adam Baldwin Has Some Thoughts On Alec Baldwin's 'Negligence' and 'Recklessness'

Actor Adam Baldwin, who has used more than his fair share of prop guns, gave his thoughts on Alec Baldwin, no relation, accidentally shooting a prop gun that was loaded

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Action Star Adam Baldwin Has Some Thoughts On Alec Baldwin's 'Negligence' and 'Recklessness'​

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Actor Adam Baldwin, who has used more than his fair share of prop guns, gave his thoughts on Alec Baldwin, no relation, accidentally shooting a prop gun that was loaded killing one and injuring another.

Adam Baldwin said Alec Baldwin should "man up, confess and throw himself on the mercy of the court (both legal & public opinion) and $ pay $ for his negligence/recklessness."

When it came to how the media has sometimes framed the shooting as the gun going off, Adam rightly noted guns fire when the trigger is pulled.

"In 40+ years no one’s ever handed me a firearm on set that wasn’t open and easily eyeballed by me personally as to its status, loaded or unloaded. Alec has experienced this same himself as a 40yr film veteran and producer. He was negligent, at best," Adam continued.


From what we know now, it appears Alec Baldwin took the word of the assistant director saying the prop gun was not loaded with anything, which if you know anything about firearm safety, never take the word of someone and always check if a gun is loaded.

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[The Repeated Meme]

Your names incredibly ironic and you don't know why.

I do, actually; but good catch. I changed it for Halloween.

 

[Racist Trash]

BBC news has stated that the AD that shouted "Cold gun" had been removed from a previous film due to gun safety issues.

Rust: Assistant director had been sacked before over gun safety - BBC…

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59055138

The assistant director of Rust, Dave Halls, had been sacked from a previous production over gun safety violations.
Actor Alec Baldwin accidentally shot dead Halyna Hutchins on the set of the Western last week.

The producers of Freedom's Path confirmed to press agency AFP on Monday that Halls had been dismissed in 2019.

It came after a crew member "incurred a minor and temporary injury when a gun was unexpectedly discharged", the statement said
Rocket Soul Studios said Halls could not be reached for a comment. There is no suggestion that Halls was at fault for the Rust incident.

The studio's producers said in a statement sent to the BBC: "First of all, our condolences go out to everyone affected by the recent tragic event in New Mexico.
"Halls was removed from set immediately after the prop gun discharged. Production did not resume filming until Dave was off-site. An incident report was taken and filed at that time."
An affidavit filed over the Rust incident said Halls had handed the gun to Baldwin during a rehearsal and called out "cold gun" as he did so, meaning the weapon had no live ammunition.

 

[WonderWino]

It all makes perfect sense now

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

@RodgerDodger
Most interesting in that they have a named actor on the record as feeling really unsafe with all the questionable gunplay. "I could feel the blanks hitting my face and the blast of the shotgun" Ouch! That's not a good look for this set or production.

So breathtakingly stupid; and it's like these people are still afraid of being cancelled, even though they're speaking up now.

My questions are who actually owned the pistols, and who was left in charge of overall set safety, and if they were one of those who walked off.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Colin Noir gave his thoughts on this topic.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Some Karens and/or SJWs are triggered because Donald Trump Jr. sells some Alec Baldwin t-shirts saying "Guns don't kill people! Alec Baldwin kills people!"

https://twitter.com/Martina/status/1452736894115135488

Donald Trump Jr. Sells Horrifying Shirt About Alec Baldwin Prop Gun Shooting

The former president's son is attempting to capitalize on the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins by outspoken GOP critic Alec Baldwin.

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I noticed with these type of cunts, it's pure tribalism when the average Joe knows Alec Baldwin dun goofed hard. Question is how much did he dun goof hard from a legal standpoint.

These people are to be ignored to be honest as they won't even defend Baldwin lol to some extent.

 

[Reporterward]

Per the aforementioned NY Post story quoted above.

‘Rust’ actor says filming felt ‘life-threatening,’ raised fears of Brandon Lee-style death

Ian A. Hudson told TMZ that he was terrified filming a scene where his outlaw character was gunned down by others using 20 pistols and two rifles — all real weapons.

nypost.com

“Hudson said that he “held his tongue” over a lot of his concerns because he is a “new actor” who didn’t “want to cause trouble.”
“But some of the other actors … were double- and triple-checking our weapons after the armorer gave them to us, whether they were cold or hot,” he said.”

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So according to this guy, a bunch of the other actors were so concerned they were checking the weapons given to them multiple times.

Unbelievable.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

FINALLY

 

[MrJokerRager]

He knows his audience. He's owning the libs. That's what republicans do, that's all republicans will ever do.

I don't know if you meant that in a positive jovial way or a sarcastic manner lol.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Damn. I thought Cannibal Holocaust was hardcore with all the turtle beheading. It ain't got nothing on Rust.

Cannibal Holocaust's director was prosecuted for murder unironically in Italy and they had to bring in the actress of the character getting a pike shoved up her ass in the film, to prove it was all fake.

 

[Cuckoman]

I like westerns. Will this affect the release date of the movie?

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

List of things alec baldwin could have done to avoid killing his camerawoman while rehersing:

As an actor:

• not point the gun at her
• not pull the trigger while he was pointing the gun at her
• not cocking the gun, or decocking the gun before drawing it (he would be using a single action revolver)
• checking the cylinder to make sure it was empty

As a producer:

• Not hiring a fucktard "armorer" just because of who her dad was
• implementing protocols to ensure live ammunition was not brought on set
• Addressing the multiple negligent discharges that occurred over the previous weekend

If he had done any one of those things, he wouldn't be a killer right now. That's the thing about gun safety, you have a big list of rules and as long as you follow one of them the worst you'll do is put a hole in your roof. It would be fucking retarded not to criminally charge him.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I like westerns. Will this affect the release date of the movie?

I wonder what is Clint Eastwood's thoughts since the last good kino cowboy movie from Hollywood was Unforgiven made in the 1990s.

Seems like Alec Baldwin was aiming for some gritty cowboy flick and went a little too hard into his method acting.

 

[Roast Chicken]

I like westerns. Will this affect the release date of the movie?

Baldwin has cancelled all of his other projects so that he can "centre himself" so I don't think this film is going to come out for a long while.

 

[RodgerDodger]

So breathtakingly stupid; and it's like these people are still afraid of being cancelled, even though they're speaking up now.

My questions are who actually owned the pistols, and who was left in charge of overall set safety, and if they were one of those who walked off.

The pistols are identified as Antique Period Pistols. Normally something like that would be a rental from a historic weapon supplier. Most guns for film and tv are rentals. But the old stuff. 19th Century guns those are either rentals from a specialty provider or they are loaners/rentals from a private collection.