Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

The OPV (oral polio vaccine) can spread the poliovirus by (albeit rarely) mutating into a circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus (cVDPV) and spreading amongst a population that is servery unvaccinated. So it's still ideal for EVERYONE to get the polio vaccine, rather than letting only a tiny minority rely on receiving the OPV:

Hence why developed countries (the ones I imagine most Kiwis reside in) prefer the IPV, which three doses of it provides the same life-long immunity you correctly noted OPV also provides, though IPV does not prevent transmission:


In conclusion, the polio vaccine is only truly 100% effective when as many people (preferable the entire population) is vaccinated. The OPV's "gut immunity" is great but if everyone else isn't properly vaccinated, then it's all for naught if cVDPV develops and spreads like it did in eastern Syria in 2017 (or indeed the wild Polio virus still spreads among the unvaccinated, as it does in Pakistan and Afghanistan currently).

One can apply the same logic to COVID-19; if virtually everyone gets immunised against it, then its circulation among the population is less severe and it will have less of a chance to mutate (such as that 'Alpha' variant which developed in Kent, England, perhaps in a severely immunocompromised person).

No you can literally not apply the same logic to COVID-19 because in fully vaccinated countries like Gibraltar you had the highest rate of new COVID-19 infections among fully vaccinated people, same goes for Israel.
 
Point was to find out where an exceptional individual such as yourself would draw the line when it comes to booster shots, and now I know.

You've just admitted you're so scared of losing your job that you're willing to take a monthly injection of experimental drugs if they require it. This is quite possibly the most pathetic example of wagie slave mentality I've seen in a while.

NOW BRING ME MY TENDIES, WAGIE.
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You're the one who is so terrified of getting a little jab that you gotta come up with retarded hypotheticals to try and justify your anti-vax stance. Besides, I thought you said I was a janitor? Or was it a nurse? Or was it an orderly? I wish you'd get my job correct so I can tell my manager what some gullible spaz on Kiwi Farms says my job is

So why are you so afraid? It's okay to be afraid, son, The Hulkster is here for you. Tell me what you're scared of
 
You're the one who is so terrified of getting a little jab that you gotta come up with exceptional hypotheticals to try and justify your anti-vax stance. Besides, I thought you said I was a janitor? Or was it a nurse? Or was it an orderly? I wish you'd get my job correct so I can tell my manager what some gullible spaz on Kiwi Farms says my job is

So why are you so afraid? It's okay to be afraid, son, The Hulkster is here for you. Tell me what you're scared of
"I'm not scared, you're scared"

Seriously now, why are you so afraid of losing your job? A real professional can just find another job in weeks. Or did you get your current job due to nepotism and you're unemployable anywhere else due to your crippling autism and social incompetence?

Send me your resume, I'll find you a good placement.
 
You're the one who is so terrified of getting a little jab that you gotta come up with exceptional hypotheticals to try and justify your anti-vax stance. Besides, I thought you said I was a janitor? Or was it a nurse? Or was it an orderly? I wish you'd get my job correct so I can tell my manager what some gullible spaz on Kiwi Farms says my job is

So why are you so afraid? It's okay to be afraid, son, The Hulkster is here for you. Tell me what you're scared of
You need Jesus Christ, you are so full of hate. You are headed down the path of eternal damnation. What part of NO do you not understand? You are a fucking bully, if your vaccine is so amazing why does everyone need to take it?
 
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The OPV (oral polio vaccine) can spread the poliovirus by (albeit rarely) mutating into a circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus (cVDPV) and spreading amongst a population that is servery unvaccinated. So it's still ideal for EVERYONE to get the polio vaccine, rather than letting only a tiny minority rely on receiving the OPV:

Hence why developed countries (the ones I imagine most Kiwis reside in) prefer the IPV, which three doses of it provides the same life-long immunity you correctly noted OPV also provides, though IPV does not prevent transmission:


In conclusion, the polio vaccine is only truly 100% effective when as many people (preferable the entire population) is vaccinated. The OPV's "gut immunity" is great but if everyone else isn't properly vaccinated, then it's all for naught if cVDPV develops and spreads like it did in eastern Syria in 2017 (or indeed the wild Polio virus still spreads among the unvaccinated, as it does in Pakistan and Afghanistan currently).

One can apply the same logic to COVID-19; if virtually everyone gets immunised against it, then its circulation among the population is less severe and it will have less of a chance to mutate (such as that 'Alpha' variant which developed in Kent, England, perhaps in a severely immunocompromised person).

Hang on, a couple of points.

The MRNA vaccines don't protect from anything though, forcing everyone to take them endlessly isn't going to stop COVID-19 due to differences in the way corona viruses and polio operate. If that was the case Europe and Asia wouldn't be see surging cases.

The other big elephant in the room and one that I'd love to be corrected on is that as far as I can tell the Polio vaccine wasn't forced on the global population within a year and then used a pretext to curtail civil liberties and give people who would have made perfectly good guards at auchwitz free reign in public.

Plus the other elephant which is all of the covid injuries that people refuse to talk about.
 
You need Jesus Christ, you are so full of hate. You are headed down the path of eternal damnation. What part of NO do you not understand? You are a fucking bully, if your vaccine is so amazing why does everyone need to take it?
You're an anti-vaxer so you obviously know nothing about science, but look up herd immunity.

"I'm not scared, you're scared"

Seriously now, why are you so afraid of losing your job? A real professional can just find another job in weeks. Or did you get your current job due to nepotism and you're unemployable anywhere else due to your crippling autism and social incompetence?

Send me your resume, I'll find you a good placement.
That doesn't even make any sense. I am vaccinated as my job requires. Just because some rando on 4chan posted that we will require weekly boosters doesn't mean it's gonna happen. We've been over this before, son. Stop believing everything you read on 4chan. And for the record, even if my job didn't require it, I'd still get it. I actually care about others and want to help stop the spread. Just because your diseased brain can't understand empathy doesn't mean that others can't.

You didn't answer my question. Why are you so terrified of a little jab? You claim to be this tough alpha male on here, but that hardly seems like something an alpha male would be scared of. Why are you so terrified?
 
You tards that keep making hypotheticals like "THEYLL MAKE YOU GET THE VACCINE EVERY WEEK!" are fucking exceptional. You might as well say that it's got nanobots in it and a 5G tower.
They actually should do that though, just jab them with nothing, pure tap water, for no reason other than to piss them off. Just hold a gun to their head and jab them with nothing but tap water.
 
They actually should do that though, just jab them with nothing, pure tap water, for no reason other than to piss them off. Just hold a gun to their head and jab them with nothing but tap water.
That'd be pretty awesome. They could also then tell them the nanobots and 5g tower was injected into them on top of it.
 
The other big elephant in the room and one that I'd love to be corrected on is that as far as I can tell the Polio vaccine wasn't forced on the global population within a year and then used a pretext to curtail civil liberties and give people who would have made perfectly good guards at auchwitz free reign in public.
The reason you likely don't give the likes of the polio and Tdap jabs any thought was because you would have been vaccinated with them at early childhood, at either a hospital or a school, like the first polio jab was when it was first rolled out in the 1950s:
No you can literally not apply the same logic to COVID-19 because in fully vaccinated countries like Gibraltar you had the highest rate of new COVID-19 infections among fully vaccinated people, same goes for Israel.
Unfortunately OurWorldInData doesn't give the statistics for either "Deaths" or "Hospitalizations" for Gibraltar (or even "Cases", for that matter), but its vaccination rate is indeed more than 100%:
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Question is, how many Gibraltarians are either hospitalised, currently in ICUs or dead right now due to Covid-19 infection?

I can't find much news coverage of Gibraltar's current situation regarding the virus, besides it's applauded full vaccination coverage and this local newspaper story from there about a non-vaccinated visitor who died as a result of infection, but he "was in his early 50s and had underlying health conditions.":
 
You're an anti-vaxer so you obviously know nothing about science, but look up herd immunity.


That doesn't even make any sense. I am vaccinated as my job requires. Just because some rando on 4chan posted that we will require weekly boosters doesn't mean it's gonna happen. We've been over this before, son. Stop believing everything you read on 4chan. And for the record, even if my job didn't require it, I'd still get it. I actually care about others and want to help stop the spread. Just because your diseased brain can't understand empathy doesn't mean that others can't.

You didn't answer my question. Why are you so terrified of a little jab? You claim to be this tough alpha male on here, but that hardly seems like something an alpha male would be scared of. Why are you so terrified?
Muh science, you are in a cult.
 
Muh science, you are in a cult.
Lol you are denying the existence of herd immunity? I think you're the one in the cult, son.

Just because you have autism and have the world view of a boomer doesn't mean you need to believe everything schizophrenic tards share on Facebook.

EDIT: Oh, you are one of those "THE GOVERNMENT IS NEVER GOING TO GIVE BACK POWER" spazes. You should've just told me you are a frothing retard and I could've ignored your posts. After mask mandates ended when cases went down, this should've showed you that you are wrong, but nope, you are too hardheaded to change your worldview. Is it because of autism or are you just another A&H right-wing conspiracy nutjob?
 
Why wouldn't we put nanobots and shit in for the pure fun?
That'd be pretty awesome. They could also then tell them the nanobots and 5g tower was injected into them on top of it.
I bet if they actually mandated you fatties to get a shot once a week, you would be way too terrified of losing your job to speak out. Shakespeare said it best, “A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once."

Must be terrifying living paycheck to paycheck, just two weeks away from homelessness. Can't imagine that having a Sword of Damocles like that hanging over your head is doing any favors to your mental health.
 
I’m antivaxxmaxing

First, I DIDN'T get the Pfizer,
then I DIDN'T get the AstraZeneca,
then I DIDN'T get the J&J,
then I DIDN'T get the Moderna,
then I DIDN'T get the Covaxin,
then I DIDN'T get the SinoVac,
then I DIDN'T get the SinoPharm,
then I DIDN'T get the Sputnik,
then I DIDN'T get the Soberana 02,
then I DIDN'T get the Novavax.


I woke up with NO HEART PAIN, NO CHEST CONGESTION, and NO BLOOD CLOTS.

I also DIDN'T have a headache, nor did I have impaired memory or impaired mental clarity.

So tell me, why haven't you NOT gotten the vax?
 
I bet if they actually mandated you fatties to get a shot once a week, you would be way too terrified of losing your job to speak out. Shakespeare said it best, “A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once."

Must be terrifying living paycheck to paycheck, just two weeks away from homelessness. Can't imagine that having a Sword of Damocles like that hanging over your head is doing any favors to your mental health.
You still didn't answer my question. Why are you so terrified of a little jab? You claim to be alpha, but it's obvious you're a beta cuck. I answer your questions all of the time, answer mine for once.

Unlike you, I am not a beta cuck who is afraid of a jab so I was happy to get the vaccine. It has nothing to do with what my employer wants. So what's it like being more beta than a cucked redditer?
 
Must be terrifying living paycheck to paycheck,
It must be terrifying being afraid of literally nothing, every day. What's it like being so pathetic? Afraid of literally a vaccine that literally makes you immune from a disease. How fucking pathetic and cowardly is it possible to be? Lmao loser.
 
You still didn't answer my question. Why are you so terrified of a little jab? You claim to be alpha, but it's obvious you're a beta cuck. I answer your questions all of the time, answer mine for once.

Unlike you, I am not a beta cuck who is afraid of a jab so I was happy to get the vaccine. It has nothing to do with what my employer wants. So what's it like being more beta than a cucked redditer?
It must be terrifying being afraid of literally nothing, every day. What's it like being so pathetic? Afraid of literally a vaccine that literally makes you immune from a disease. How fucking pathetic and cowardly is it possible to be? Lmao loser.
Projecting much?
 
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