Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[sanguis draconis]

Question: any of you have some favorite scientific articles or just news articles on the effectiveness (and basically mostly ineffectiveness) of SRS/GRS? I'm not sure if there's some kind of terf megapost or not already, I just want them to ween to my friends IRL

I was making a post with that but realized there was more information and fonts to compile to make it as unbiased as possible, so right now it's a googledoc were I can keep track of books and scientific articles by topic.

The cover-up is pretty intense in hugboxes so I'd say it's even expected to a certain degree. I was investigating citations in my area's most prominent "evidence-based" resource, specifically what it had about surgical results, and found some garbage-fire articles being cited.

Oh yeah, it's important to keep in mind that the people doing the papers are mostly the unethical butchers in the first place.

Every single neovagina, both the intersex and mtf ones dating back to like the 1900 paper ends with "results were satisfactory", then when one of them is showing his new technique it's "we all are aware the old technique sucked major ass and half the patients were complaining"... Where were those people for the original papers when everything was awesome tho

In other news, I have a different article on neovaginal microbiomes!

Conclusions:

Penile skin-lined neovaginas have diverse, polymicrobial communities that show similarities in composition to uncircumcised penises and host responses to cis vaginas with bacterial vaginosis (BV) including increased immune activation pathways and decreased epithelial barrier function.

idk why but "similarities to uncircumcised penis" makes me think it's smegma. Also of course it's acting like there's an infection lmao

Microbial profiles determined by mass spectrometry reveal distinct microbial community structures in the neovaginal, rectal, and vaginal compartments from transgender and cisgender women, respectively. a Unsupervised, hierarchical clustering performed on the averaged proportional abundance of the bacterial taxa detected suggests the polymicrobial, neovaginal profile on average is more similar to the rectal profile compared to the cis vaginal profile which is dominated by Lactobacillus and Gardnerella. b Hierarchical clustering of the individual profiles reveals that neovaginal profiles specifically cluster together as well as with other diverse, species-rich cis vaginal and rectal profiles (branch 3b). All of which are significantly more diverse (Shannon H Index, p = 5.0E−4, Kruskal-Wallis) than cis vaginal and rectal profiles found in branches 1, 2, and 3a



There's also this horrifiyng tidbit:

Bacteria identified in the neovagina may represent bacteria that were seeded by unique routes of transmission. For instance, Eikenella corrodens is a commensal bacteria found in the mouth. Oralgenital contact has been suggested as a possible route of transmission of these bacteria to the genital tract. Anaeroglobus geminatusa, Pseudoramibacter alactolyticus, Campylobacter ureolyticus, Fusobacterium nucleatum, and Actinomyces have been described as putative pathogens also found in the oral cavity associated with periodontitis and endodontic infections. The presence of oral bacteria in the neovaginal compartment could suggest oral-genital bacterial transmission

Someone was sucking these amholes with their dirty mouths

They also included this video:

 

[Kiislova]

that picture

My God, imagine the smell.

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

There's also this horrifiyng tidbit:


Someone was sucking these amholes with their dirty mouths

My interpretation is that these lovely ladies were trying to slap their neoclams, porno-style, and wouldn’t you know it? Just not quite enough lubrication. “But the doctor said….Oh well. ::Spits into fist:: Girls just wanna have fun!”

 

[SCSI]

Update from Stumpdick for everyone waiting on the next episode of "The Phallus of Dr. K" (Archive). Including detailed descriptions of her daily wound care and as a bonus, photos of the arm and leg graft donor sites. For those with strong stomachs, there's a high resolution photo staring directly into the abyss, which is definitely staring back.

First, some pure copium, and u/Gaebriel29 pops back up again to confide that not only did she suffer from a surprise clot before, but that she's a sister stumpdicker as well (a quick poke through her profile reveals her phallo was from Gottlieb in Chicago, for those keeping score of what butchers are active). Also, it turns out that Stumpy is another example of the strange tendency of FTMs to be absolute (wo)manlets -- 5'1", with a formerly 7.5" megaphallus. Keep in mind that's before glansplasty. I think we're starting to see more clearly why the King Kong Ding Dong is falling off.

Photo Galleries:

Spoiler: Partially-Healed (Not Arm Too, Only) Leg

Spoiler: Pallid Headless Sausage (NSFW)

Spoiler: HD Look Directly Into The Separation (NSFW!)

Edit -- Corrected skin graft gallery title, thank you @let there be plight for confirming all pics are the mangled leg, the weird-ass camera distortion on one shot confused the hell out of me.

 

[Pil Chollins]

Funny how the coke can cocks almost always have self-harm scars on them

 

[lamp shade]

The edges look like they’re trying to heal, but that internal tissue looks black. Bad combo.

Those pics are all the leg. Doesn’t look like any tissue came from the arm (the deeper leg wound to create the phallus and the dark red was the skin graft donor to cover the deeper wound).

 

[sanguis draconis]

She is getting close to having no skin left, how far is she willing to sacrifice for the phallus god?

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

She is getting close to having no skin left, how far is she willing to sacrifice for the phallus god?

Apparently suicide is so fucking abhorrent to society-at-large that spending hundreds of thousands of medical dollars, hours of medical manpower, and half of this woman’s healthy skin is more crucial than letting a terminally ill person let go. Like, just let the bitch K.O. Some people are beyond fixing. I really believe that.

It’s like Terry Schiavo with more body horror and somehow more politics.

 

[neverendingmidi]

Apparently suicide is so fucking abhorrent to society-at-large that spending hundreds of thousands of medical dollars, hours of medical manpower, and half of this woman’s healthy skin is more crucial than letting a terminally ill person let go. Like, just let the bitch K.O. Some people are beyond fixing. I really believe that.

It’s like Terry Schiavo with more body horror and somehow more politics.

There's something darkly hilarious about your username commenting on a person who literally has an "extra" lonely hole in their abdomen now.

 

[SCSI]

A change of pace after all the body horror and gore to some lighter content. So it turns out that Dr. Crane and his friends at the Crane Center have their own Instagram, where they post Q&A videos responding to questions prospective patients have sent in. I don't have IG so can't mine it for hidden gold, but here's one I could reach where Dr. Michael Safir assures everyone that "your penis *won't* just fall off." In his opinion, this silly, unwarranted fear is because patients minds are so blown by how awesome having their penis come true is, that they think it's can't be real and one day it will just go *poof*.

Bonus Content:

Reddit user u/gbradley1347 gushes over her gender euphoria gained from standing to pee, and answers the question no one asked -- what's it like using a Stage 1 sausage in the bathroom? (Archive)

Spoiler: Lol (NSFW)

ETA -- Bonus content.

 

[PresidentTerf]

The edges look like they’re trying to heal, but that internal tissue looks black. Bad combo.

Those pics are all the leg. Doesn’t look like any tissue came from the arm (the deeper leg wound to create the phallus and the dark red was the skin graft donor to cover the deeper wound).

Yeah I think it's generally looking better but that hole is looking a bit angry closer to the centre.

And yeah the tip looks nasty, it's quite clear her body doesn't want this thing attached and is rejecting it.

 

[behindyourightnow]

I was making a post with that but realized there was more information and fonts to compile to make it as unbiased as possible, so right now it's a googledoc were I can keep track of books and scientific articles by topic.


Oh yeah, it's important to keep in mind that the people doing the papers are mostly the unethical butchers in the first place.

Every single neovagina, both the intersex and mtf ones dating back to like the 1900 paper ends with "results were satisfactory", then when one of them is showing his new technique it's "we all are aware the old technique sucked major ass and half the patients were complaining"... Where were those people for the original papers when everything was awesome tho

In other news, I have a different article on neovaginal microbiomes!

Conclusions:

idk why but "similarities to uncircumcised penis" makes me think it's smegma. Also of course it's acting like there's an infection lmao

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Microbial profiles determined by mass spectrometry reveal distinct microbial community structures in the neovaginal, rectal, and vaginal compartments from transgender and cisgender women, respectively. a Unsupervised, hierarchical clustering performed on the averaged proportional abundance of the bacterial taxa detected suggests the polymicrobial, neovaginal profile on average is more similar to the rectal profile compared to the cis vaginal profile which is dominated by Lactobacillus and Gardnerella. b Hierarchical clustering of the individual profiles reveals that neovaginal profiles specifically cluster together as well as with other diverse, species-rich cis vaginal and rectal profiles (branch 3b). All of which are significantly more diverse (Shannon H Index, p = 5.0E−4, Kruskal-Wallis) than cis vaginal and rectal profiles found in branches 1, 2, and 3a



There's also this horrifiyng tidbit:


Someone was sucking these amholes with their dirty mouths

They also included this video:
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Lol imagine going through all of that pain and expense and effort and just ending up with two buttholes

 

[SCSI]

Yeah I think it's generally looking better but that hole is looking a bit angry closer to the centre.

And yeah the tip looks nasty, it's quite clear her body doesn't want this thing attached and is rejecting it.

Your observation about the middle of The Abyss looking sketchy reminds me of a question I've wondered before -- where exactly do they route the artery/vein from the body into the alien parasite phallus? Is it typically off to the side or closer to the center? Assuming there even is a standard practice, which is , I know. She doesn't seem to have the artificial tap from her leg inserted into it to give it blood any more, so it's getting bloodflow somehow, however little, judging by the mortuary-perfect pallor. If that grafted artery is running through the questionable area of tissue, seems like it would raise the risk of a serious infection getting into her bloodstream, just going off off basic health knowledge.

 

[PresidentTerf]

Your observation about the middle of The Abyss looking sketchy reminds me of a question I've wondered before -- where exactly do they route the artery/vein from the body into the alien parasite phallus? Is it typically off to the side or closer to the center? Assuming there even is a standard practice, which is , I know. She doesn't seem to have the artificial tap from her leg inserted into it to give it blood any more, so it's getting bloodflow somehow, however little, judging by the mortuary-perfect pallor. If that grafted artery is running through the questionable area of tissue, seems like it would raise the risk of a serious infection getting into her bloodstream, just going off off basic health knowledge.

So I think they just have them in the middle of the rolled up flesh tube.

Then they seem to hook up to femoral (groin) or epigastric (abdomen) nerve, I was surprised with femoral, that's quite close for a potential infection.

Ironically the layout seems quite similar to the forearm anatomy, it's quite literally an arm attached to their pelvis.

I have a crackpot theory that the tilt of stumpy dicks pelvis is contributing to her issues somehow.

 

[sanguis draconis]

Your observation about the middle of The Abyss looking sketchy reminds me of a question I've wondered before -- where exactly do they route the artery/vein from the body into the alien parasite phallus?

There seems to be 2 primary options:

The femoral or the deep epigastric system can be used for flap inflow and outflow. The authors prefer the femoral system, creating an arteriovenous loop using 20 cm or more of the great saphenous vein, and anastomosing to the superficial femoral artery in end to side fashion. Large saphenous vein tributaries are usually available for secondary drainage via the basilic vein.

And boooy have I found the perfect videos just for you:

Spoiler: surgery

radial forearm phalloplasty flap end-to-side arterial anastomosis to the superficial femoral artery

radial forearm phalloplasty venous anastomoses to the saphenous vein and a tributary

Illustrations and the pic I could find of the epigastric artery:

Illustration and in vivo view of recipient site exposed with visible myofasciotomy and recipient pedicle, with an Acland clamp on the deep inferior epigastric pedicle. *Great saphenous vein.

A bonus pic of how many team of surgeons they need per flesh tube:

Stage 2 gender affirmation RFFF phalloplasty with three surgical teams working concurrently. One team is performing left radial forearm free flap harvest, a second team is performing a vaginectomy and scrotoplasty, and a third team is harvesting recipient vessels (an inferior epigastric artery and vein).

 

[KiwiFarmerSimulator2021]

I cant bring myself to look at the pictures but if the phallus (god why does she refer to it like that. Perhaps because she knows it can never be penis) is as long as it is wide, is it basically a cube?

 

[Peaches Demure]

I cant bring myself to look at the pictures but if the phallus (god why does she refer to it like that. Perhaps because she knows it can never be penis) is as long as it is wide, is it basically a cube?

She isn't saying that it's as long as it's wide, she's saying that the circumference is equal to the length. If you take the circumference divided by Pi (~3,14) you will get the diameter. So in this case, 7,5/3,14 would equal 2.39 inches in diameter/"width". Still a coke can, though.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

There seems to be 2 primary options:


And boooy have I found the perfect videos just for you:

Spoiler: surgery

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radial forearm phalloplasty flap end-to-side arterial anastomosis to the superficial femoral artery

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radial forearm phalloplasty venous anastomoses to the saphenous vein and a tributary

Illustrations and the pic I could find of the epigastric artery:
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Illustration and in vivo view of recipient site exposed with visible myofasciotomy and recipient pedicle, with an Acland clamp on the deep inferior epigastric pedicle. *Great saphenous vein.

A bonus pic of how many team of surgeons they need per flesh tube:

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Stage 2 gender affirmation RFFF phalloplasty with three surgical teams working concurrently. One team is performing left radial forearm free flap harvest, a second team is performing a vaginectomy and scrotoplasty, and a third team is harvesting recipient vessels (an inferior epigastric artery and vein).

And then the flesh tube gets holes, rots off and/or the troon 41% itself.

 

[KiwiFarmerSimulator2021]

She isn't saying that it's as long as it's wide, she's saying that the circumference is equal to the length. If you take the circumference divided by Pi (~3,14) you will get the diameter. So in this case, 7,5/3,14 would equal 2.39 inches in diameter/"width". Still a coke can, though.

Ah gotcha, makes sense. Sounds like a unit.

 

[behindyourightnow]

A bonus pic of how many team of surgeons they need per flesh tube:

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Stage 2 gender affirmation RFFF phalloplasty with three surgical teams working concurrently. One team is performing left radial forearm free flap harvest, a second team is performing a vaginectomy and scrotoplasty, and a third team is harvesting recipient vessels (an inferior epigastric artery and vein).

That last image and description almost makes me nauseous. Not the surgery itself but the idea of voluntarily doing that to yourself. So much scar tissue and injury, so many places things can go wrong, all the potential damage from the anesthesia itself. And for what? A weird stump on your crotch that doesn’t look like a penis even if it doesn’t rot off?