General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Beeg Snake]

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Looking forward to the next 5 pages about this when the rest of the thread wakes up.

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from Kiara's Pumpkin Carving stream

"It looks like shit" - Kiara 2021

 

[Jep21]

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Nice saving, Mousey. I wonder why he keeps trying to bruteforce himself into Hololive when he doesn't seem to care about it all that much.
Kinda makes me glad that my oshi's favorite youtuber didn't give a shit when collab got denied by management and later on told collabbeggars to fuck off.

 

[Crabouse-united]

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FYI this is one of the guys Cali was hanging around with a few months ago. Not implying anything by the way but fuck Connor and anitube in general except almightyloli.

On a more positive note, Kiara's carving a tako on her pumpkin stream right now.

*Edit: got Ninja'd by @Beeg Snake

 

[Kill Your Idols]

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I don't know who this guy is, but damn is he out to burn some bridges. Like, even if you think this, why would you ever verbalize this in front of an audience? It's clear his leading questions are making Ironmouse uncomfortable and he still won't shut the fuck up. How do you get this brain dead?

 

[Cubanodun]

FYI this is one of the guys Cali was hanging around with a few months ago. Not implying anything by the way but fuck Connor and anitube in general except almightyloli.

On a more positive note, Kiara's carving a tako on her pumpkin stream right now.
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It got butchered to hell and end looking like the Discord logo

 

[What the shit]

Looking forward to the next 5 pages about this when the rest of the thread wakes up.
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You got to love how people start shit out of nowhere, especially Connor of all people.

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

I don't know who this guy is, but damn is he out to burn some bridges. Like, even if you think this, why would you ever verbalize this in front of an audience? It's clear his leading questions are making Ironmouse uncomfortable and he still won't shut the fuck up. How do you get this brain dead?

You got to love how people start shit out of nowhere, especially Connor of all people.

He is british; a normie at best and considering that he is the supposedly sane one, absolutely brings the shit out of trash taste itself.

 

[What the shit]

He is british; a normie at best and considering that he is the supposedly sane one, absolutely brings the shit out of trash taste itself.

It's kind of upsetting Ironmouse has to be in this too even though she has nothing to do with it. People who see this will automatically start shit with her because of Connor.

 

[kuuu]

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No it isn't recent.

What he said is actually true.
The most untalented pos would absolutely swim in glory that hololive brings with it.

But so far hololive had shown impeccable headhunting skills. So what cunnur says doesn't actually happen.

Still, dude should have been more discreet about it and went with 'a big successful agency'.

 

[Cdfhju]

To cheer up, here are a whole bunch of female hentai artists singing an anime OP that none of the corporations are likely to touch, which is a shame because it's a great OP

Why do I clearly hear "In the navy" and in the same time "YMCA" by Village People?

 

[Rezza]

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My only question is, why the clip is shared around only now? Also nice save there, even you can hear she sound uncomfortable with the question. Anyone who believe "Oh, anyone can stream and get instant-success" are either kids, or people so detached with reality

 

[Scuttle]

I hate Connor and think he's a faggot but he isn't really wrong. Hololive IS instant success and arguing the contrary is ludicrous. Kronii earned $50,000 within two weeks and regularly earns more in one stream than an average person gets in a week of 9-5. Kiara is on the verge of being a millionaire despite having been in and out the idol industry for a decade+. Calli is topping charts despite her style being exactly the same as it's always been.

I have no context for why he brought it up, but here he isn't saying it's a bad thing, and he isn't saying that people in Hololive ARE mediocre streamers — just that the brand power is so strong that even hiring someone who is no good at what they do would still rake it in. He's not (necessarily) saying that's what's happening in reality.

 

[Bug Eater]

Mel's roommate (Rika) released a preview video for her new album, was a bit surprised to see this in the credits:



First time I've seen Holo roommates working together like this. Not sure whether she was actually involved with the production, or just helped to get FAKE TYPE involved with the song? Either way I thought it was pretty interesting. I really like some of the music too, seems like she has been working hard on this. (also noteworthy: Kagura Nana contributed an illustration for the album, and LAM drew the cover art)

 

[Azchan]

Imagine having time to play between 5 to 10 hours for 4 days straight.

That's concerning.

Is it? I waste so much time playing shit like WoW. Probably overall I have wasted more than 1 years worth of my life on that stupid fucking game.

I had seen a lot of "Best x seconds of your life" videos popping up in the past weeks. Didn't click them, so does anyone know what they are?

Not sure but they pop up often for me and I ignore them.

Alternative title: Kiara wants more Holos in EU so that she can travel all over Europe.

I did think that EN2 would atleast have 1 Brit in it. Guess not.

To cheer up, here are a whole bunch of female hentai artists singing an anime OP that none of the corporations are likely to touch, which is a shame because it's a great OP

I'm starting to believe that these "health" issues have more to do with the sedentary lifestyle, poor diet, and possible episodes of depression that come and go with it.

FYI this is one of the guys Cali was hanging around with a few months ago. Not implying anything by the way but fuck Connor and anitube in general except almightyloli.

On a more positive note, Kiara's carving a tako on her pumpkin stream right now.
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I don't get what's the problem with what he said. Maybe im retarded but what drama is there to take from what he said? That some of the girls are getting carried by the company and not by their talent?

What he said is actually true.
The most untalented pos would absolutely swim in glory that hololive brings with it.

But so far hololive had shown impeccable headhunting skills. So what cunnur says doesn't actually happen.

Going by what some people have commented about some of the girls, Im impressed that more people are not on board with what he said. At this point I think people just hate Connor more because he is a normie who constantly interacts with the talents than anything.



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So how long until Kiara either stabs herself in stream or hits the cam and shows her face?

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

I have no context for why he brought it up, but here he isn't saying it's a bad thing, and he isn't saying that people in Hololive ARE mediocre streamers — just that the brand power is so strong that even hiring someone who is no good at what they do would still rake it in. He's not (necessarily) saying that's what's happening in reality.

I think his wording just made it sound as if HL wasnt hiring talented streamers and just coasting it on their name

Which to an extent, its somewhat true that the brand power is high, but at the same time, streaming groups are pretty much reliant on the talents being talented, theres no such a thing as a brand provided free lunch and it shows with creators within HL and Niji (some exceptions apply ofc), they get the brand boost, but almost all content has to be provided and made by them

 

[INeedHelp]

I don't get what's the problem with what he said. Maybe im exceptional but what drama is there to take from what he said? That some of the girls are getting carried by the company and not by their talent?

He isn't wrong, as others have stated, but the way he presented the question can be heavily misrepresented. For both him, presenting the question, and the answer from Mousey, if she had answered, good call on Mousey overall.

 

[ChefKiss]

I hate Connor and think he's a faggot but he isn't really wrong. Hololive IS instant success and arguing the contrary is ludicrous. Kronii earned $50,000 within two weeks and regularly earns more in one stream than an average person gets in a week of 9-5. Kiara is on the verge of being a millionaire despite having been in and out the idol industry for a decade+. Calli is topping charts despite her style being exactly the same as it's always been.

I have no context for why he brought it up, but here he isn't saying it's a bad thing, and he isn't saying that people in Hololive ARE mediocre streamers — just that the brand power is so strong that even hiring someone who is no good at what they do would still rake it in. He's not (necessarily) saying that's what's happening in reality.

Risu and Iofi havent even made 50k lifetime. Choco-sensei only recently broke 150k in 3 years, and Mel just over 110k they both make more in their day jobs and it's not because they're bad streamers but the brand name alone doesnt bring you instant success. Spare me any argument you want to make about them being less popular or well known or anything because it's all true of AkiRose too and she is near $450k.
So no, what he said wasnt true, it's a retard anituber with a retarded anituber take with no bearing on reality

First time I've seen Holo roommates working together like this. Not sure whether she was actually involved with the production, or just helped to get FAKE TYPE involved with the song? Either way I thought it was pretty interesting.

Yeah I think this is the first time I've seen two roommate accounts collabing. Previously I did see Akirose and Nayuta(AZKi) collabing which was weird too

I'm starting to believe that these "health" issues have more to do with the sedentary lifestyle, poor diet, and possible episodes of depression that come and go with it.

I wish man, she has severe health issues, she isnt in bad health because she's a hikki mangaka, she's a hikki mangaka because it's one of the few things she could do with her bad health

 

[Rezza]

Because what Connor said is simply not true. You think Hololive has this level of success simply because they're lucky? No, it's because the talents are willing to learn and improve themselves, with some savvy strategy taken by the company/management (some, not all, mind you). Opening up a new branch for what is basically an uncharted market is a very risky move, and HoloEN only managed to pulled it off because the HoloMyths members are talented, and the company is willing to give them their full support. If all that it took is just some luck, then why can't Nijisanji with their first iteration of NijiEN, the Niji India failed? There's a reason why the other Holomems admired the HoloMyth, even calling them the "Genius Generation".

And if you think anyone can be successful as long as they're part of Hololive, just look at Kiara's numbers now, and also Anya. Their growth suffered a lot because of the mistake both of their own faults and also of the company's. Kiara for being the numberfagging menhera she is, and Anya because she didn't give a fuck at what she's doing.

Putting Holo's success purely on "luck" or "the Lightning in the Bottle Moment" is a massive disservice to the efforts the talents did to improve themselves. Would Subaru became as big as she is now if not for her hardwork? Would Pekora can keep her growth were if not for her almost daily long streams? Same thing is also attributing their success solely because they're "Hololive". Literally almost no one have ever heard of their name before last year, even more people know of Nijisanji than Holo back then.

(Also contributing to Holo's success is the fans, fanworks, and also the clippers, but that's a story for another time)

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Also what @ChefKiss said is true, brand name power alone is not a guarantee for success or financial gains. Also a quick reminder, Coco and Kanata said they used to have poor SC results and such. And now what happened now, Coco is one the first SC earner in VTubers history, and that only happened because she put a lot of hard work on her channel

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

FYI this is one of the guys Cali was hanging around with a few months ago. Not implying anything by the way but fuck Connor and anitube in general except almightyloli.

On a more positive note, Kiara's carving a tako on her pumpkin stream right now.
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I don't know how she hasn't stabbed herself with the vegetable peeler.

Moona won't be streaming from November 1 to 13th-ish as she has to travel to Jakarta as her college is having offline exams. Her classes are moving offline as well so she is looking for a two bedroom condo. One bedroom would be used for recording/streaming. She said they cost about 130k USD but they all have bad internet. She'll be around for the being of the sports festival but has to leave halfway through, so even though she was made "captain" , IRyS is the one who will be streaming it for the team. That is assuming her hotel has good enough internet to stream.

 

[Autisticus]

It doesn't help that he and the rest of the trash taste crew were very obviously circling around Hololive and trying to use it for cross promotion only to suddenly start dropping negative takes when collabs didn't materialize beyond the podcast episode.

Coincidence or not, it makes them seem salty about being shut out.