US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[introman]

And today brought the final proof of the Democrat Civil War. The delay on the vote after announcing it was going through shows that the Progs actually have sheered off and are holding up the bill. Not just Manchin. What is worse, these two groups are irreconcilable.

After today, I expect the leaks to get VERY vicious and come from sources higher-up. Allegedly, Joe Biden's speeches in Delaware in the 70's were straight up Klansmen according to the older local blacks in the Delaware area, you know Joe Biden is done when those get out. Hunter leaks will also probably increase in intensity as Hunter seems to be a magnet of reprehensible behavior, and Nancy Pelosi leaks as well.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Today I found out my county sheriff is in the process of changing political parties from Dem to Republican.

Which is probably more symbolic than anything, as this guy probably voted Trump twice and in this region a lot of Dems are just DINOs.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Yes. Their goal is to empower Zionism, the military, and the 0.1%, and they publicly support policies to accomplish this (although they don't admit that's their goal). Tucker also wants to enrich himself and these interests but publicly claims to support populist policies that would not accomplish that. That's why I think he's less honest than the neocons.

That’s an option I suppose. But the other option is he’s just out for popularity by pointing out the obvious that MSM ignores.

 

[ForTheHoard]

TLDR- Some house Democrats are frothing at the mouth over the proposed unrealized gains tax. There's nowhere near enough support on the blue team. They would probably get some RINOs on board without much effort. Tax the rich people on the right like Bannon hate it too.

‘Stop F*cking Talking': House Democrats Oppose Radical Wealth Tax

House Democrats have vocally opposed the proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not been sold.

www.breitbart.com

archive- https://archive.md/6n2un

Spoiler: Article

A few House Democrats on Tuesday vocally opposed the recently proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not yet been sold.

The tax, proposed by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to reduce infighting among the far-left and the “moderate” Democrats, has likely fallen flat. Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI) told reporters the offer was more of a Hail Mary attempt to patch the dissension among the Democrat caucus. “It’s more of a stunt,” Kildee said.

House Budget Chair John Yarmuth (D-KY) said he opposes the measure due to its inability to tax Americans enough. “I don’t think it’s a reliable offset. So I have concerns about that,” Yarmuth said about the amount of tax increases wanted in the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package.

Rep. Jimmy Gomez (D-CA) told Politico Playbook the idea of a wealth tax infuriated him as a waste of time. “The Senate needs to start saying yes or no on issues and stop fucking talking,” Rep. Gomez stated.

The Democrat House members’ opinions were supported on Tuesday by an article in the Wall Street Journal, which indicated the wealth tax “would almost certainly face a legal challenge, given the clear incentive for a taxpayer to spend millions in legal fees to save billions on taxes.”

The Journal continued:

The likely argument: Taxing capital gains that haven’t been realized yet falls outside the income taxes allowed by the 16th Amendment that don’t have to be apportioned based on state population. Under current law, individuals pay capital-gains taxes only when the gain is realized, typically when they sell an asset, such as a stock, closely held business or painting.

Meanwhile, Rep. James Clyburn, the Democrat House Whip, told Fox Business Network on Tuesday he supports taxing assets before they have been sold for a profit or a loss. “I am for a wealth tax,” he said when asked by Neil Cavuto. “I think there is a big difference in the so-called wealth tax and all of this thing about a billionaires tax.”

“You don’t get anywhere near the money we need to raise in order for everybody to participate in the build back better efforts. And so the wealth tax is something that I support,” Clyburn added.

With the House Democrats in the majority with about a five House vote margin, it is unknown if Democrats have the votes to support the wealth tax.

Follow Wendell Husebø on Twitter @WendellHusebø.

 

[Oxous]

TLDR- Some house Democrats are frothing at the mouth over the proposed unrealized gains tax. There's nowhere near enough support on the blue team. They would probably get some RINOs on board without much effort. Tax the rich people on the right like Bannon hate it too.

‘Stop F*cking Talking': House Democrats Oppose Radical Wealth Tax

House Democrats have vocally opposed the proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not been sold.

www.breitbart.com

archive- https://archive.md/6n2un


A few House Democrats on Tuesday vocally opposed the recently proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not yet been sold.

The tax, proposed by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to reduce infighting among the far-left and the “moderate” Democrats, has likely fallen flat. Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI) told reporters the offer was more of a Hail Mary attempt to patch the dissension among the Democrat caucus. “It’s more of a stunt,” Kildee said.

House Budget Chair John Yarmuth (D-KY) said he opposes the measure due to its inability to tax Americans enough. “I don’t think it’s a reliable offset. So I have concerns about that,” Yarmuth said about the amount of tax increases wanted in the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package.

Rep. Jimmy Gomez (D-CA) told Politico Playbook the idea of a wealth tax infuriated him as a waste of time. “The Senate needs to start saying yes or no on issues and stop fucking talking,” Rep. Gomez stated.

The Democrat House members’ opinions were supported on Tuesday by an article in the Wall Street Journal, which indicated the wealth tax “would almost certainly face a legal challenge, given the clear incentive for a taxpayer to spend millions in legal fees to save billions on taxes.”

The Journal continued:


Meanwhile, Rep. James Clyburn, the Democrat House Whip, told Fox Business Network on Tuesday he supports taxing assets before they have been sold for a profit or a loss. “I am for a wealth tax,” he said when asked by Neil Cavuto. “I think there is a big difference in the so-called wealth tax and all of this thing about a billionaires tax.”

“You don’t get anywhere near the money we need to raise in order for everybody to participate in the build back better efforts. And so the wealth tax is something that I support,” Clyburn added.

With the House Democrats in the majority with about a five House vote margin, it is unknown if Democrats have the votes to support the wealth tax.

Follow Wendell Husebø on Twitter @WendellHusebø.

>The tax, proposed by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to reduce infighting among the far-left and the “moderate” Democrats, has likely fallen flat.
How, exactly? Taxing unrealized gains is like, the exact opposite of a compromise. It's something that only the progressives would ever support. Judging from Rep. Gomez's comments it sounds like there's some real frustration between the House and the Senate.

 

[Gehenna]

TLDR- Some house Democrats are frothing at the mouth over the proposed unrealized gains tax. There's nowhere near enough support on the blue team. They would probably get some RINOs on board without much effort. Tax the rich people on the right like Bannon hate it too.

‘Stop F*cking Talking': House Democrats Oppose Radical Wealth Tax

House Democrats have vocally opposed the proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not been sold.

www.breitbart.com

archive- https://archive.md/6n2un

Spoiler: Article

A few House Democrats on Tuesday vocally opposed the recently proposed radical wealth tax applied to assets that have increased in value but have not yet been sold.

The tax, proposed by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to reduce infighting among the far-left and the “moderate” Democrats, has likely fallen flat. Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI) told reporters the offer was more of a Hail Mary attempt to patch the dissension among the Democrat caucus. “It’s more of a stunt,” Kildee said.

House Budget Chair John Yarmuth (D-KY) said he opposes the measure due to its inability to tax Americans enough. “I don’t think it’s a reliable offset. So I have concerns about that,” Yarmuth said about the amount of tax increases wanted in the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package.

Rep. Jimmy Gomez (D-CA) told Politico Playbook the idea of a wealth tax infuriated him as a waste of time. “The Senate needs to start saying yes or no on issues and stop fucking talking,” Rep. Gomez stated.

The Democrat House members’ opinions were supported on Tuesday by an article in the Wall Street Journal, which indicated the wealth tax “would almost certainly face a legal challenge, given the clear incentive for a taxpayer to spend millions in legal fees to save billions on taxes.”

The Journal continued:


Meanwhile, Rep. James Clyburn, the Democrat House Whip, told Fox Business Network on Tuesday he supports taxing assets before they have been sold for a profit or a loss. “I am for a wealth tax,” he said when asked by Neil Cavuto. “I think there is a big difference in the so-called wealth tax and all of this thing about a billionaires tax.”

“You don’t get anywhere near the money we need to raise in order for everybody to participate in the build back better efforts. And so the wealth tax is something that I support,” Clyburn added.

With the House Democrats in the majority with about a five House vote margin, it is unknown if Democrats have the votes to support the wealth tax.

Follow Wendell Husebø on Twitter @WendellHusebø.

No, no RINO would sign off on this. Keep in mind, RINOs are in it for themselves, for power, money, and status. This would take their money and give them fuck all in return.

 

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After today, I expect the leaks to get VERY vicious and come from sources higher-up. Allegedly, Joe Biden's speeches in Delaware in the 70's were straight up Klansmen according to the older local blacks in the Delaware area, you know Joe Biden is done when those get out. Hunter leaks will also probably increase in intensity as Hunter seems to be a magnet of reprehensible behavior, and Nancy Pelosi leaks as well.

Remember, Nancy Pelosi's kid was also involved in selling influence, same as Hunter, IIRC. Ditto Mitt Romney and John Kerry's kids.

This could get very, very vicious indeed.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

>The tax, proposed by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to reduce infighting among the far-left and the “moderate” Democrats, has likely fallen flat.
How, exactly? Taxing unrealized gains is like, the exact opposite of a compromise. It's something that only the progressives would ever support. Judging from Rep. Gomez's comments it sounds like there's some real frustration between the House and the Senate.

I guess it's a compromise because they want to outright just confiscate it all.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

After today, I expect the leaks to get VERY vicious and come from sources higher-up. Allegedly, Joe Biden's speeches in Delaware in the 70's were straight up Klansmen according to the older local blacks in the Delaware area, you know Joe Biden is done when those get out. Hunter leaks will also probably increase in intensity as Hunter seems to be a magnet of reprehensible behavior, and Nancy Pelosi leaks as well.

Hunter will be a goldmine for any dirt to get thrown at Biden, crackheads are a liability.

 

[Gehenna]

Before you all jerk yourself into stupors over what might leak, do keep in mind every leak has to be carefully timed, placed, and considered. Even with it being more public, nobody wants to light a bomb that makes it impossible to recover later. So temper your expectations.

 

[Kane Lives]

Before you all jerk yourself into stupors over what might leak, due keep in mind every leak has to be carefully timed, placed, and considered. Even with it being more public, nobody wants to light a bomb that makes it impossible to recover later. So temper your expectations.

I honestly dont expect anything, except that whatever's coming gonna get juicy, and inevitably somebody WILL leak something that everyone involved will regret.

And we'll be there to laugh at it.

 

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Before you all jerk yourself into stupors over what might leak, due keep in mind every leak has to be carefully timed, placed, and considered. Even with it being more public, nobody wants to light a bomb that makes it impossible to recover later. So temper your expectations.

Yup. Unless something seriously changes in the dynamic, I don't think they'll go scorched earth on each other.

My hope is some minor leak reveals some bigger deal or causes the wall of silence to fail, which will open them all up to additional funtimes, but who knows?

 

[Scale Smerch]

4: There is no way to reconcile Manchin and the Progs. There was some worthy debate as to if the Progs would actually block the bill, many said that they were doing it for show. Well, they weren't. The bill would not have been 'delayed' if they weren't set to vote against it, Pelosi tried to call their bluff and it turned out to not be a bluff.

It gets better once it's realized Manchin hasn't even signed off on that chopped down bill either. All the talk today was how it was a sure and done thing with all holdouts on board, except only Sinema was explicitly mentioned in talks and Jayapal has largely confirmed the framework is little more than ideas at this point.

The weekend media roundtables are going to be a riot. Blame the Progs? Blame Manchin and Sinema? Whoever you choose leads that side to simply dig in harder.

 

[Gehenna]

Yup. Unless something seriously changes in the dynamic, I don't think they'll go scorched earth on each other.

My hope is some minor leak reveals some bigger deal or causes the wall of silence to fail, which will open them all up to additional funtimes, but who knows?

If Biden offs it is when they'll start going scorched Earth. But only if he actually dies in office.

 

[lolwut]

Before you all jerk yourself into stupors over what might leak, do keep in mind every leak has to be carefully timed, placed, and considered. Even with it being more public, nobody wants to light a bomb that makes it impossible to recover later. So temper your expectations.

So you're telling me I won't get to see a catfight between Kamala and Pelosi where one rips the other's human mask off like two black chicks ripping each other's weaves, revealing the reptilian beneath? Just let a man believe, bro...

 

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If Biden offs it is when they'll start going scorched Earth. But only if he actually dies in office.

Or is "politically dead," maybe?

Actual credible allegations / evidence of rape or pedophilia, for example. Not sure if "evidence he literally sold our country to China/Russia" would count, but, yeah.

That's why I think we might see knock on effects, like they try a shot across his bow with a Hunter leak only it snowballs rapidly.

 

[Gehenna]

Or is "politically dead," maybe?

Actual credible allegations / evidence of rape or pedophilia, for example. Not sure if "evidence he literally sold our country to China/Russia" would count, but, yeah.

That's why I think we might see knock on effects, like they try a shot across his bow with a Hunter leak only it snowballs rapidly.

No, has to be actually dead. No longer breathing. Pushing up daisies. Thrown off this mortal coil.

To explain why: It would need to be paired with a loss at the midterms. Biden simply offing it isn't -quite- the trigger. But them losing the midterms and then him dying, or vice versa, would be the trigger. At that point, they'd have lost all political power at the federal level. A VP has -no mandate- save for anything related to the President's death itself. But natural causes is not something that can be done anything about, so that'd be DOA. At that point, looking at the total loss of incumbent advantage one way or another, a Trump presidency is very likely again. And the Democrats know what that means.

They'd simply hit the point where no damage they do to themselves can be worse than what is about to come.

 

[likeacrackado]

After today, I expect the leaks to get VERY vicious and come from sources higher-up. Allegedly, Joe Biden's speeches in Delaware in the 70's were straight up Klansmen according to the older local blacks in the Delaware area, you know Joe Biden is done when those get out. Hunter leaks will also probably increase in intensity as Hunter seems to be a magnet of reprehensible behavior, and Nancy Pelosi leaks as well.

There could be grainy 70s videos of Joe Biden burning a black person on a cross in someones front yard and the media would still drum something up that would keep 25%< of the population on his side.
As said here:

If Biden offs it is when they'll start going scorched Earth. But only if he actually dies in office.

The resulting cat/faggot-fight between all the different groups and individual factions in the administration would be enough to fuel a new genre of overrated TV dramas.

 

[Absolutego]

By the way, while considering the importance of this I have a few things to add.

1: It was -not- AOC that they went to, to confirm the progressive caucus vote. Proof of what I said earlier that the forced vote on the Iron Dome was the death blow to her as controlled opposition.
2: The new leader appears to be an interim one, but that they could agree on one is bad for the Establishment. She reported back to her caucus rather than deciding on the spot, but in the end they did nix it.
3: This was -really bad- for Pelosi. It's more or less the final blow to her being Speaker. Push came to shove, and when she tried to force the votes she failed. What she wants from now on is irrelevant, no matter the lip service paid.
4: There is no way to reconcile Manchin and the Progs. There was some worthy debate as to if the Progs would actually block the bill, many said that they were doing it for show. Well, they weren't. The bill would not have been 'delayed' if they weren't set to vote against it, Pelosi tried to call their bluff and it turned out to not be a bluff.

Yeah, the second I saw Jayapal was now taking stump speeches on behalf of the progressive caucus, I knew AOC was done. She really did let the celebrity go to her head and torpedoed her own reputation trying to play nice with the establishment wing.

(note that this is not an endorsement of Jayapal and the rest of the prog caucus, and more marveling at just how much AOC really was astroturfed opposition)

 

[Snekposter]

Before you all jerk yourself into stupors over what might leak, do keep in mind every leak has to be carefully timed, placed, and considered. Even with it being more public, nobody wants to light a bomb that makes it impossible to recover later. So temper your expectations.

Yes, and the chances of someone accidentally hoisting themselves with their own petard are? I'm not getting my hopes up, but if things escalate (and they likely will due to god knows how many years of ill will), there's going to be what is diplomatically called, "an oopsie".

No, has to be actually dead. No longer breathing. Pushing up daisies. Thrown off this mortal coil.

Odds of them going Monty Python with his corpse like it was an ex-parrot?