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The thing I dread is with poodle mixing becoming popular they'll wind up becoming more frequent in the shelter population and you'll wind up with hyper intelligent pitbulls.
Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel
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Poodlebulls. Running the world. A new age!
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My neighbor rescued one of these ghetto pitbulls and he was an absolute spazz. She gave away her gentle and sweet Belgian Tevuren to keep that inbred imbecile. it was sad because he wasn't vicious and actually very friendly and docile but he was completely retarded. He was incapable of being house trained and literally rolled around in his own shit despite every attempt to make him stop. She finally got rid of it, I guess she finally faced reality.
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IN GENERAL inbreeding isn't an issue in pure-bred cat populations in this one study according to Mucha et. al (2011) as the coefficient rate is at 3% which is not that fucked.
Persians
are the only breed of Brachycephalic cat. I will also say that whoever owns this cat is taking good care of them. The issue with Persians (aside from the breathing issues) are that their fur is too long for their tongues to groom naturally, thus they NEED to go to cat groomers (cat grooming usually starts at $120usd for a cheap groomer because of the extra risks involved.) Most Persian owners' cats' end up in what's called a lion cut (or the newest is the dragon cut) because they can actually self groom at this length (also it looks silly)
Note: taking your cat to a professional groomer, especially for long hair cats or cats with severe matting is a GOOD thing to do and responsible, so go make your matted cat into a dragon. It's the humane thing to do.
I also will say that a lot of grooming techniques look really weird ESPECIALLY for cats (those shampoo sacks for example) but like with all animal husbandry, if you haven't done it before don't shun it until you see why all professionals do it. Especially with grooming animals act weirdly because they're stressed. Cats are either angels or Hitler and there's way to deal with them safely while grooming same as with angel and Hitler dogs. Judging a pet's temperament at the groomer is like judging them at the Vet, it's not really a fair assessment because its stressful. However for Persians and other double coated cats, this stress is necessary.
Anyways back to health issues in Cattos
Persian's also have breed issues related to eating. They often need specially shaped food because they cannot chew properly so many brands make specialty foods for flat faced cats.
Other Cats With Breeding Issues:
Sphynx (general warning, just needs extra care)
Sphynx, loved by XD edgy alt girls and people with pronouns in their bio. Generally very nice cats. But their genetics have some issues. They produce an oil that should otherwise go into their coat but since they don't have this coat, they need to be wiped down regularly. Cats are also near blind in terms of terrible vision at close range (within about 10 inches think mammy looking for glasses) so they often use their other senses and whiskers to orient themselves. Even cats who are 100% blind can often get around fine due to how finely tuned cats are with their other senses. Sphynx cats have no whiskers for this, this seems like a minor nitpick but it's a big issue in your cats being able to navigate their lives. They also are very prone to dental issues like all small dogs and hairless breeds, however I will say I know a cat with like 2 teeth who decimates their food still. Once again if you want a purebred cat be prepared to get them with health screenings from the breeder and be prepared to know how to care for them.
Scottish Folds (DO NOT GET ONE)
osteochondrodysplasia this term is the official science nerd term for "floppy floppy cartilage" disease which is what gives them that cute little fold on their ears. The bad News? This deformity happens ALL OVER their bodies including joints. If you've ever had joint pain or known anyone with it, it's not fun. Because of this dysplasia, Scottish Folds live a lifetime of chronic pain. It's immensely inhumane and any vet will tell you that they're not a healthy breed and should be let to die out.
Munchkin Cats (this is my opinion, giving a tentative pass looking at the current research)
In my previous post I mentioned dachshunds were bred for a specific reason, to get into those tiny low holes with ease, thus making them short made them for a job. Munchkin cats have a limb deformity that is similar to that in Dachshunds except their purpose is "haha cute" which is what basically all cats are bred for aside from "hunt the vermin pestering my farm". While this could be argued as cruel, it's been found that due to the flexibility of cat's spines, there are not the same back issues as you can find in corgis, dachshunds and other little long stumpy things. A cat's purpose in life and the reason they self domesticated was to catch our vermin and get headpats. Can they efficiently perform this service at this stature? Yes. Yes they can, there is actually a naturally occuring evolutionary trait called "mustelification" where animals, even big cats, are beginning to develop shortened limbs closer to that of mustelids (weasles, ferrets , mink etc.) to become better hunters. If you look at snow leopards you can see this where their legs have become quite short for better ambush hunting. For this reason I don't see breeding this deformity as an issue so long as the cat can live a natural healthy life.
TL;DR: Mind your husbandry needs for each breed, some of these genetic abnormalities are harmless, some make A LOT more work for you as an owner, and some are extremely detrimental to your pet's health. Don't be a retard also you should adopt a cat 99.9% of the time.
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Great OP. A real expose and everything that makes kiwifarms great. Makes me wish strange giant people would pick me up and jack me off though...
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Mother of god, a simultaneously great and horrible OP.
You still see lizards moving in this way but it's almost never seen in mammals because it was selected against and improved on by millions of years of evolution.
Imagine undoing in a few decades what evolution took millions of years to fix. It's horrible to look at.
You are correct. The "sprawling" style of movement as shown to the left below is the most primitive and a better evolutionary offshoot of this was the erect style of movement as shown in the middle. For more info, see Terrestrial Locomotion on Wikipedia.
You still see lizards moving in this way but it's almost never seen in mammals because it was selected against and improved on by millions of years of evolution.
Imagine undoing in a few decades what evolution took millions of years to fix. It's horrible to look at.
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All of this.
An amazing piece of work by the OP.
Pitbulls are ugly and dangerous. It is truly ironic how much niggers worship a breed generally regarded as the niggers of the canine world.
Every White person I've known who owned a Pibble was total trash.
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It's hard for me to "hate" pitbulls personally. At least fully. They themselves are victims of selfish and morally deficient people who betray the natural love and trust dogs have in humans for profit.
That being said, as someone who's family has small dogs, I'm incredibly wary of them. I've seen videos of very young puppies latching onto each other with their teeth and not letting go, read about how someone had a seizure and their pitbull responded by biting into their throat and I've read about how some pitbulls have even learned to "smile" to trick people into coming close so they can catch them off guard when they attack.
They're high risk dogs and while I can sympathize wanting to be a "savior" that tames them and turns them around like in movies, it's a fool's errand and it's better to let the breed die out.
That being said, as someone who's family has small dogs, I'm incredibly wary of them. I've seen videos of very young puppies latching onto each other with their teeth and not letting go, read about how someone had a seizure and their pitbull responded by biting into their throat and I've read about how some pitbulls have even learned to "smile" to trick people into coming close so they can catch them off guard when they attack.
They're high risk dogs and while I can sympathize wanting to be a "savior" that tames them and turns them around like in movies, it's a fool's errand and it's better to let the breed die out.
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Damn these things really look so much like toads I expect them to hop instead of walk.
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Forgive my sperging for a moment but I have to give my two cents about cropping and docking.
Now I believe cropping and docking on pets is dumb, that being said on a working dog there’s actually a reason for the madness.
Personally I work with a breed of hearding dog and we do have a vet come in to dock the tails and remove dew claws when the puppies are around 5 days old. My vet uses a special tool to dock the tails and we’ve never had a problem with the puppies crying or showing signs of distress. I forget what the tool is called but it looks like an empty spool of thread that you place the tail into then twist and the tail is docked cleanly. Then some disinfectant and a dab of surgical glue to close the tail and they’re good to go. Some vets will suture the tail but that’s up to the vet.
The reason why we dock the tails and remove the dew claws is because when these dogs are hearding cattle, sheep, or horses it greatly reduces the risk of injury to the dog. These animals will stomp when mad and if the dog’s tail gets under hoof then at best it’s broken and at worst it gets ‘de-gloved’. (The skin is completely pulled off the tail).
With the dew claws it’s a precaution because nine times out of ten they will get caught on something and ripped off.
Tl;dr: Docking and cropping on pets = stupid and bad.
Docking and cropping on actual working dogs = fine if done by a vet.
Now I believe cropping and docking on pets is dumb, that being said on a working dog there’s actually a reason for the madness.
Personally I work with a breed of hearding dog and we do have a vet come in to dock the tails and remove dew claws when the puppies are around 5 days old. My vet uses a special tool to dock the tails and we’ve never had a problem with the puppies crying or showing signs of distress. I forget what the tool is called but it looks like an empty spool of thread that you place the tail into then twist and the tail is docked cleanly. Then some disinfectant and a dab of surgical glue to close the tail and they’re good to go. Some vets will suture the tail but that’s up to the vet.
The reason why we dock the tails and remove the dew claws is because when these dogs are hearding cattle, sheep, or horses it greatly reduces the risk of injury to the dog. These animals will stomp when mad and if the dog’s tail gets under hoof then at best it’s broken and at worst it gets ‘de-gloved’. (The skin is completely pulled off the tail).
With the dew claws it’s a precaution because nine times out of ten they will get caught on something and ripped off.
Tl;dr: Docking and cropping on pets = stupid and bad.
Docking and cropping on actual working dogs = fine if done by a vet.
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Unfortunately though 90% of crop jobs done on these dogs are DIY, not done by a vet. Tail cropping and dewclaw removals on puppies are also not that expensive a procedure either as I'm sure you know. It should never be done on puppies more than six weeks of age because then bone starts to replace the previous cartilage.
But there's always the idiot who wants their new dog to look "tough" and get pissy when told the dog is outside the age range.
Ear cropping vets are hard to come by too, in my area. Mine would do the tails and dewclaws but apparently ear cropping is a more delicate procedure to have it come out looking right. So these toad people don't want the hassle or to pay so they just lop it off in the most unsanitary way possible.
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Reading through this as a foreign is interesting to me — a lot of you talk about the mass amounts of bully breeds in shelters, they’re technically banned where I live (although some slip through the cracks and get labelled as boxer mixes or something stupid), I actually mostly see hounds here from hunters who get them from backyard breeders who don’t know what theyre doing/the hunters fail to train the dog themselves, so all the local shelters are overrun with beagle mixes instead. Less aggressive but also not exactly great adoption material in a lot of cases, they’re cute but poorly behaved and ruined as pups in a sad amount of cases in my experience.
Slightly unrelated, but my favourite dog subculture full of lolcow behaviour has long been psychiatric service dogs. Lot of younger folks who think they need one for anxiety. I’ve seen a lot of really...interesting picks for breeds for these animals, like shepherds who are often high anxiety on their own and who wind up biting people or other dogs while “working”. Wondering how long it’ll be before I see people trying to claim frog bullies as SDs.
Slightly unrelated, but my favourite dog subculture full of lolcow behaviour has long been psychiatric service dogs. Lot of younger folks who think they need one for anxiety. I’ve seen a lot of really...interesting picks for breeds for these animals, like shepherds who are often high anxiety on their own and who wind up biting people or other dogs while “working”. Wondering how long it’ll be before I see people trying to claim frog bullies as SDs.
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I completely agree. These idiots who take kitchen shears to their dog’s ears and tail deserve the same treatment done to them and a special place in hell.
I also don’t believe in declawing cats unless it’s needed for medical reasons, if you can’t train your cat to use a scratching post then don’t have a cat. And keep your damn cats inside. Don’t get me wrong cats are great and I love them, but they have no business being indoor and outdoor animals. They’re destructive and it always ends in tears with outdoor cats.
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I know pits with knowledgeable owners and who had the right start to life as puppies that are fine dogs, its just infuriating when pibble stans paint the breed as angelic saints and completely disregard their breed's history that end up getting more people bitten by calling them fucking nanny dogs and setting up pibble kissing booths.
Also worth remembering pitbull is an umbrella term for various breeds, American pit bull terriers are illegal in the UK but staffies are allowed. A showline staffie needs to be tolerant of judges feeling them down and groping their testicles in the show ring where any negative reaction from the dog is a disqualification. Rate me optimistic or whatever but good dogs do exist out there, they just get ruined by the ocean of bad owners or get left to rot in backyards.
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It definitely happens. My sister has some kind of pit cross that was left in a box with his siblings at a park when he was around four weeks old. So he had super early intervention and as a result is perfectly fine with cats, other dogs and children. The trade off though is he's a terrible guard dog. He will bring strangers toys.
And that kind of extreme intervention may be necessary to get that family dog the pit defenders talk about. He was not raised by a bitch, he was raised by humans. He had extensive training in a ranch environment. This may have been all to him losing any ability to guard. As he's a dumb dog and there's no way for him to tell apart a "bad" human from a good one. The same thing with dogs. He can't differentiate a "bad" dog from a good so they're all "good". The Pyrenees could tell one of their "pack" members from coyotes or feral dogs. He doesn't seem to have this ability.
Tl;dr: Pits are dumb as rocks but if you get one early enough to teach it all things are good you'll get a family pet, but never a guard dog.
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Depends on the snake. Ball Pythons burrow so they're perfect for rack systems but boas, carpet pythons and even some colubrids are semi-arboreal and will definitely utilize climbing spots in their enclosures if offeredIt depends on the reptile. Snakes only need to feed once or twice a week, and as long as they're small you could actually keep them in a bin like that. But when they grow larger you need to move them to a bigger tank. Snake breeders and zoos actually use this exact method to keep their hundreds of snakes in order:
This might look cruel to someone who isn't familiar with herpetology but for a hatchling this is good. The adults have bigger shelves like this:
Snakes don't care about verticality, so height is irrelevant, they just need room to move on the ground.
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Backyard breeders are a huge problem. Most of them inbreed their animals to cut costs. Good portion of shelter dogs come from backyard breeders.
You need to find a reputable breeder who tests their animals for any potential health issues and breeds for genetic excellence.
Shelters are filled with animals from puppy mills. Either dumped by the mills or bought at auction from mills.
Dogs bred for optimal health, temperament and appearance are superior to mongrels often abused or abandoned who will have a number of anxiety and aggression issues because of their circumstances.
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further proof that dogfags and cat ladies are mentally ill lunatics and should be executed, no exception