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Tell them you've joined my religion and you need an exemption.
I don't know if I should bother with religious exemption. Maybe I will? idk I feel kinda indifferent at this point. I guess it's a battle fatigue. (battle that was going mostly in my mind for past several months when I was considering different whatifs)
I think I am mostly disappointed that I work for morons.
 
I don't know if I should bother with religious exemption. Maybe I will? idk I feel kinda indifferent at this point. I guess it's a battle fatigue. (battle that was going mostly in my mind for past several months when I was considering different whatifs)
I think I am mostly disappointed that I work for morons.
You should write a letter to Chris Chan asking for her help as your religious leader for an exemption. Tell her you're afraid that the vax will make you unclean and make the merge fail.
 
I don't know if I should bother with religious exemption. Maybe I will? idk I feel kinda indifferent at this point. I guess it's a battle fatigue. (battle that was going mostly in my mind for past several months when I was considering different whatifs)
I think I am mostly disappointed that I work for morons.
Ultimately it depends how strict they are. I know that in the US outside of the Feds, they can be more lenient due to the religious protections offered by the constitution; but in a country like Canada, religion is hardly protected by a document like the Charter, so personal belief is off the table and larger companies can demand ridiculous amounts of information, including signatures & letters from religious leaders.

As for the last sentence, I do feel like a considerable number of people are feeling the same way. Maybe it's a feeling of betrayal? One thing's for sure, I think that a lot of respect has been lost.
 
What baffles me is that many intelligent people know very well how corrupt and incestous FDA, CDC and Big Pharma are, because, well it's common knowledge. You can read about it on the fucking Wikipedia. But somehow they are trustworthy and the rushed vaccine is "safe and effective", just because they said so. This is mind-boggling. And if you bring up the past, well-documented cases of class-action lawsuits and the astronomical money they had to pay in settlements, you get only vacant stares.

The same person who recommend me Ben Goldacre's Bad Pharma, is obsessed with the Theranos story, daily reads skeptic blogs how shitty most published medical research is, loves talking about the replication crisis -- is like this. I never say anything because there's no point but I keep thinking "connect the dots already!"
 
An excellent and tragic article reminiscing on prior failed medical theories/panics, and how the Covid pandemic fits into this mold as well.

We blamed ourselves for our son’s problems and most of the new theories did, too. His autism was because we’d had him vaccinated. Because we fed him wheat or dairy or corn. Because we hadn’t employed a team of workers to have constant “floor time” with him (the so-called Son Rise cure) or apply behavioral techniques according to the Lovaas method, beloved not only by late ’90s autism parents but also by conversion therapy folks.

Each new wave was certain: The approaches to autism that had come before were barbaric and uninformed, but this most recent breakthrough was the one clear truth. Science had spoken. Over and over for a dozen years.

We were heartbroken each time a treatment failed—and guilty because without fail, someone would insist we hadn’t tried hard enough. Sure, we’d gone gluten-free, but had we cleansed with hyperbaric oxygen? Behavioral training worked, but only if you did it 18 hours a day. Why hadn’t we taken a second mortgage and flown to the Catskills for a workshop at the Son-Rise Institute?
This was the moment Bettelheim’s work was entirely spurned by a new group of experts who neatly whipsawed the other direction. They changed positions but held onto the religiosity. Nature was in, nurture was out. Brain chemistry became the only thing that mattered. Everything we’d done during Andrew’s childhood—talk therapy, sensory integration, cross-patterning, behavior training, biofeedback—they rejected as quackery.
Suddenly there emerged a cadre of pandemic experts who recommended—then quickly required—extreme and unprecedented things. People shouldn’t see their parents, visit friends, hold funerals or hug. We could never shake hands again. Wearing masks was useless! We MUST mask, both indoors and out. There were hotlines set up in many cities—including mine—for citizens to report their neighbors who did not comply. Police were sent to break up a Jewish funeral in New York City.

Day after day, media rained down information about who was to blame. Millennials, spring breakers, Southerners, motorcyclists. Scientists who proposed different theories were muffled, derided, sidelined. They were deemed dangerous, their ideas “misinformation.” To question was sacrilege.

I had lived through all of this before.
Finally, the vaccines came and they seemed, at first, to be a miracle. But still there were certain things you weren’t allowed to discuss, like side effects, transmissibility, and natural immunity. The shots were immaculate and all-powerful! Then suddenly … they were not. Vaccinations were undone by the unvaccinated; they couldn’t save the faithful because of the sinful. And the drug alone wasn’t enough. True believers wore a mask as well and those who did not were causing the cure to fail.

Whatever the experts said on television became reality, became “science.” Meanwhile people died and died and died and just as the ongoing tragedy of autism of a child was somehow the mother’s fault, over and over again, doctors and officials blamed their audience of 3 billion for the disease. The more the cures failed, the greater the fault of the public. The flaw was never in the remedy, but in those who failed to “behave” and thereby brought the plague upon themselves.
In the end, what I believe doesn’t really matter. History will out. Ten or 15 or 25 years from now there will a reckoning, deep research, a spate of biographies and memoirs from the people who spent 2020-21 under the sway of gurus. News media that trumpeted their wisdom and methods will issue brisk, researched, documentary-style reports. People will swarm out of the shadows to claim they didn’t really believe the experts embodied science and were secretly resisting all along; even those who preached their gospel and strong-armed the public’s obedience will insist they actually did not.
 
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More bitching and whining by some asshole at MSNBC about people exercising their First Amendment rights. Fuck this asshole, fully. 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕


MSNBC: People attending a government meeting and providing their speech is mob rule!
Also MSNBC: Antifa literally trying to murder people in the street is just the language of the unheard!

Just remember, when the pendulum swings back, these people are the first against the wall. In minecraft.
 
Week 43 UK's Covid vaccination surveillance report has been released


They've changed the reporting format (can't think why) but the numbers are all there.

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Infection rates overall are up in adults, in particular vaccinated adults between the ages of 40-59. On average vaccinated adults are 2.5 times more likely to catch Covid than the non vaccinated.

Focusing on mortality rates in older demographics, the only people at any statistical risk of dying, we see that the vaccines seem to offer protection. However when we factor in the higher infection rates this protection all but disappears. The 60-69 demographic are 4 times less likely to die but 2.5 times more likely to catch the virus. In the 70-79 age group they are three times less likely to die but twice as likely to catch it. At the time of the report we can now say that the vaccines are increasing infectivity in the vaccinated, conferring some protection against severe disease on an individual basis but not on a population wide basis.

Why is this happening?

The report attempts to hand waive the efficacy data away by blaming changes to behaviour in the vaccinated. I assume on the basis that the vaxxed will be more likely to mix and engage in higher risk activities than the non vaxxed. This seems to me to be a cope. What's the real reason?

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Despite increasing infection rates in all adults N-antibody prevalence continues to flatline.

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The only demographics showing any increases in N-antibody prevalence are younger people with lower vaccination rates.


In the 3 oldest age groups, the impact of first vaccine dose, then second vaccine dose, can be seen from December through June, as the profile of population antibody levels increases. Then from June through September the profile of antibody levels in these cohorts gradually decreases, consistent with waning. During October there is a small increase in percentage of donors with high antibody levels of 1000+ AU/ml for the 70 to 84 age group only, following the initiation of the booster programme.

In the 3 oldest age groups spike antibody titres show a waning to seronegative, no surprise there. However despite waning/disappearing s-protein titres these age groups, with close to 100% vaccination rates, are not producing n-antibodies in response to infection.

recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination.

They are outright admitting that OAS is occurring in the vaccinated.

To summarise the vaccinated are far more likely to become infected than the non vaccinated. The claim that the vaccines are reducing mortality overall is no longer sustainable. It's now confirmed that the vaccinated, at least in older age groups (and likely in all) are not able to mount a broad immune response when exposed to the virus. OAS is occurring and even worse the effects on innate immunity persist even when the vaccine derived antibodies wear off.

So now we know why they're so desperate to inject old people with third doses and boosters. Best hope they work.
 
A certain 501(c)3 company I am familiar with abruptly decided today (10/28) that it is a federal contractor and that all employees must be fULLy VacCiNAteD by January 1 or else be fired, in order to "be in compliance" with Brandon's edict. This includes remote workers. There will be no testing option. Remote volunteers, on the other hand, don't have to get anything. So to break down:

In person volunteers: must get shot
In person employees: must get shot
Remote employees: must get shot
Remote volunteers: no requirements

This further makes no sense because isn't the deadline for the fed contractors December 8?

And how is it that they just remembered today, all these weeks later, oh yeah, we are federal contractors, so we don't need to wait for OSHA, we HAVE to comply RIGHT NOW and you're already almost out of time?

All very suspicious.
 
Being the only unjabbed person in my family sometimes makes me wonder if I'm actually the only stubborn ass among responsibe people. I still don't want to get it, but I'm just really tired. It's like there's no one you can trust, heaps of conflicting information are piled on each other constantly and you have to pluck out nuggets of actual truth (which is supposed to be the job of mass media) while everyone is mad at each other, economy is being buggered, and you're called a regressive, stubborn dumbass for doubting. I really don't want to harm my familial relations, but it's getting harder every day with some older relatives and acquaintances passing from the 'rona and everyone becoming more alarmist and paranoid. I don't know what else to say other than: "I'm tired and everything sucks".
 
How do you even say that with a straight face
obviously because vaccinated have a smaller chance of transmission, so the more vaccinated you have the less likely you are to catch it.

and yes, the person who said it to me had a straight face while saying it.

I made a post in the other thread about sunscreen, just to see if they could see the irony in that situation, and how it related to covid vaccines, but they didn't pick up on what I was really trying to say. I spent a bit of time browsing through the thread, but it's mostly laughing at Facebook posts. In the pages I looked at, I didn't really see any data to counter what is being posted over here. It's not a very informative thread, there weren't any interesting studies being posted, and there are a suspicious number of posts where the sentences, aren't complete/miss words, and it made my brain hurt a bit trying to understand what they were trying to say. Somehow though those posts were still well received. Really makes me thunk.
>community watch
half the threads in there are just sad, especially when it's some poor attempt of "'let's laugh at the people laughing about lolcows and happenings".

What baffles me is that many intelligent people know very well how corrupt and incestous FDA, CDC and Big Pharma are, because, well it's common knowledge. You can read about it on the fucking Wikipedia. But somehow they are trustworthy and the rushed vaccine is "safe and effective", just because they said so. This is mind-boggling. And if you bring up the past, well-documented cases of class-action lawsuits and the astronomical money they had to pay in settlements, you get only vacant stares.
it's gell-mann amnesia on a national or even global scale. but for me it was politicians when I noticed it. like what's the average competence of a politician when you ask anyone? suddenly they were all experts and all their decisions were good and logical and if you questioned any of it you were a covid-denier and big dumbdumb.
 
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Being the only unjabbed person in my family sometimes makes me wonder if I'm actually the only stubborn ass among responsibe people. I still don't want to get it, but I'm just really tired. It's like there's no one you can trust, heaps of conflicting information are piled on each other constantly and you have to pluck out nuggets of actual truth (which is supposed to be the job of mass media) while everyone is mad at each other, economy is being buggered, and you're called a regressive, stubborn dumbass for doubting. I really don't want to harm my familial relations, but it's getting harder every day with some older relatives and acquaintances passing from the 'rona and everyone becoming more alarmist and paranoid. I don't know what else to say other than: "I'm tired and everything sucks".
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Got a company email with an external survey as to whether you're vaxxed and what you would do if mandated. I am WFH and answered I am not vaxxed and would be terminated before getting one. Hope others do the same.

Eta: they also asked about med/religious exemption and I answered none. My refusal is simply NO. Don't have to explain myself and won't. Reminder this is a company that had a data breach right before I started; I don't trust them with my medical info (should they press).
 
Reading everyone's anecdotes on family and vaccines makes me extremely thankful that my family hasn't reacted in the same way (they all think this is stupid). Only family member that thinks I'm endangering myself and everyone around me is the MIL who lives in Bongland and can be strongarmed into just about anything and she mentally shuts down when we bring up data and such on the jab being essentially worthless (but she's always been rather weak willed). My boss likes to tell me about the old people who died "of covid" because he thinks I'm a dirty, dirty unvaxxed and that his daughter (black, obese, with kidney and liver problems -- also recently had to have surgery) had to be hospitalized with covid and she's young.

I hope it gets better for everyone dealing with social pressure from families.
 
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My neighbours told me that they are going in for a 3rd jab next week. Not a booster, a 3rd jab.

Keep an eye on reports and statistics over the next few weeks/month as 'unvaccinated' becomes those with only 2 jabs. If we see a huge spike in 'unvaccinated' cases, we will know why.
Well more join the unvaxx group every six months
 
Purebloods were supposed to be dying in the streets by now. The fact we aren't triggers cognitive dissonance their programming can't handle.
you laugh but on the flip side the 4chan larpers said the same thing about the vaxxed, even battle beagle predicted it! because why else would joe biden have a due date of october for getting the vax if it wasn't going to cause people to?

now the due date is december 9th for gov contractor, or january. so the zombie Apocalypse has been moved to next year.

Also can anyone give me an update on the israelis, i'm sure if they started dying in huge numbers our muslim friends would be taking advantage of that or posting videos mocking them.
 
you laugh but on the flip side the 4chan larpers said the same thing about the vaxxed, even battle beagle predicted it! because why else would joe biden have a due date of october for getting the vax if it wasn't going to cause people to?

now the due date is december 9th for gov contractor, or january. so the zombie Apocalypse has been moved to next year.

Also can anyone give me an update on the israelis, i'm sure if they started dying in huge numbers our muslim friends would be taking advantage of that or posting videos mocking them.
I was basically promised bodies in the streets by September this is complete bull shit
 
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