🐱 What Even Is Dune?

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Dune. Dune! Dune? Everybody is talking about Dune — and has been for years, partially because the coronavirus pandemic pushed back the movie’s release date by a whole 12 months. But now, the big day, D-Day (Dune Day), is finally upon us, meaning the time has come to answer the single largest question regarding this movie’s debut: What even is Dune anyway?

In short, Dune is a sci-fi reboot with a gratuitously complex plot, based on a 1965 novel by Frank Herbert that was published in two parts. It is famously very hard to understand — Rolling Stonecalls the source material “notoriously impenetrable”; Insider calls it both “sprawling” and “dense” — therefore, people who have managed to digest it often settle into a palpable smugness over that achievement. Dune is very important, they will tell you; a pillar of the science-fiction genre, even if the original attempt at making it into a movie (by David Lynch in 1984) failed to reflect that greatness. Some people seem to view Duneas comparable to The Lord of the Rings, thoughas a person who loves and has a memory for TheLord of the Rings, I find the parallel grating: (1) because LOTR came first (and, in his own words, J.R.R. Tolkien “dislike[d] Dune with some intensity”), (2) because LOTR is fantasy, and (3) because its story line is actually pretty straightforward. Whenever I attempt to get a grip on the details of Dune, however, they pop out of my hands like little wet soaps, which is to say it’s like they’re doing it on purpose and to spite me.

But then our colleagues at Vulture posit that whether or not you like the movie actually isn’t the point — the point is atmosphere and, in the case of this specific remake, that so many big names (Timothée Chalamet! Zendaya! Oscar Isaac!) signed on as actors. Why would they do this? What is so special about Dune? What even is Dune? All reasonable questions, some of which I will attempt to answer. Let’s go.

A hero’s journey in which a Chosen Son (Chalamet in the 2021 iteration) overcomes adversity in the form of looming enemies, leaning into and thereby conquering his adolescent fears so that he can embrace his destiny and, eventually, rule. (Dune Wiki provides a more intricate overview if you have a taste for word salad.) It is set in space but also in the desert. In its original format, Dune is a two-part book, though it has previously been adapted as a movie: First by David Lynch in a widely panned imagining Vulture describes as “a beautiful sci-fi disaster” and now by Denis Villeneuve. Heads up: The coming Dune will only cover the first half of the book; if it does well, a sequel will follow.

Some other key points, as outlined by Vulture’s Nate Jones, who got to see this shit early:

• CliffsNotes on the plot: “SPACESHIP GO WHIRRRR, CANNON GO BOOOOM, ORCHESTRA GO BRRRRAAWWRRRRRR.”

• “Everything in this movie is either incredibly big or incredibly small.”

• “Much of the story is devoted to sci-fi bureaucracy. Which elites have import/export rights in which provinces? What are the specific bylaws governing a leadership transition? If someone wants to lodge a complaint, which regulatory body must they contact?”

• “Every few minutes, the movie’s plot stops for a series of perfume commercials featuring Zendaya wandering around the desert.”

Is a picture forming?

Though I have seen neither film, I do not think Dune is Star Wars. I know it is not Mad Max: Fury Road because I have seen Mad Max: Fury Road, and le petit Monsieur Chalamet never showed his finely chiseled face. But suffice to say, Dunecombines the dustiness of the latter with the spaciness of the former. Apparently, Dune had some influence on Star Wars, so you will be forgiven for believing the two franchises are one and the same; if it helps you to think of them this way, that is fine with me.

Let us consult the footage. Consider trailer one:

What I am getting from this reel is Timothée Chalamet is in flux and is maybe also a witch; certainly, he is vexed by the sandstorm inside his brain. “There’s a crusade coming,” and in order to win it, he must be able to withstand all the pain in the box; he must also get better at sword-fighting. Li’l Timmy Tim feels extreme pressure because people keep handing his father planets, better and better planets, only Daddy keeps ruining them. Unfortunately, because of the hereditary nature of power in stories like these, the sins of the father will fall upon our boy’s cherubic head. Some bald villain intends to pick off Timmy’s family members like rats in a trap and then! Then there is the butthole worm.

Nope, that’s not doing it for me. Let’s try again. Roll the tape, please:

Okay, things feel clearer this time thanks to Zendaya generously walking us through the scene. Location: the planet Arrakis (“beautiful when the sun is low,” ravaged by cruel outsiders thirsty for sparkly resources) but also the interior of Timmy’s brain. Tim-Tam dreamed up Arrakis, and Zendaya, in what we can safely assume is a vision of the world to come. Timmy belongs to House Atreides, a seemingly noble family whom some emperor has charged with bringing peace to Arrakis. Here, Timmy meets Zendaya and his glorious fate. There will be war, specifically with the inhumane–slash–possibly inhuman Harkonnens (the balds), who want to eliminate the Atreides. However, it seems Timmy has been marked for greatness — predestined for power, even — and if he can accept that about himself, then he can win this fight. (He seemingly has a bunch of fiery planes at his disposal, which should help.) But, yes, there will always be the butthole worm to contend with.

Now, I think, we are getting somewhere.

Oh my God. I know. I hate the worm; I hate it so much; I absolutely loathe how uncannily it evokes both a butthole and a lamprey at the same time. Get it away from me!!! Who decided to make it such a central component of Dune’s advertising? Or, agh, is it better to have this advance warning on the worm — because can you imagine sitting in the theater, trying to sift through the barrage of inexplicable imagery and eat your popcorn quietly, then wham, BUTTHOLE WORM?!? Horrible, simply horrible.

Anyway, according to my research, what we have here is one of the giant sandworms that inhabit the eponymous dunes of Arrakis, whence the native population and the colonizers derive a tremendous psychedelic called “spice.” (Alternatively known as “melange,” it smells and tastes like cinnamon, allows humans to bend space and time with their minds when consumed in high doses, and is valuable enough to function as currency despite being produced from — please brace yourself — poop from the butthole worms’ larvae. “Imagine a substance with the combined worldwide value of cocaine and petroleum and you will have some idea of the power of melange,” The New Yorkeradvises.) The butthole worms are revered, but they are also dangerous, enormous beasts with enormous teeth. Though some people ride them around, the butthole worms retain an incredible capacity for destruction, which means they will never be tamed. Rhythmic vibrations summon the butthole worms to the sand’s surface, which makes me especially nervous about the sheer volume of explosives contained in the trailers above.

Based on my reading: Yeah, seems so. The families who lord over Arrakis are all transplants dispatched by an emperor, and at least in one case, they view the Indigenous Fremen as “backwards savages,” per Polygon. These families also snap up the planet’s most valuable resources; that’s the whole reason the emperor is interested in Arrakis. Chalamet’s character appears to be a more benevolent ruler, which is to say something of a white savior. And it has come to my attention that Herbert pilfered a bunch of Arabic and Persian words, embedding them in the architecture of his sprawling Dune world, a practice known today as appropriation.

Please note that the tube is NOT for snorting spice straight from the air, as I initially assumed; it is for consuming the body’s secreted water, filtered by a “stillsuit” and rerouted back through the nose, allowing the wearer to survive in a punishingly dry climate. Just FYI!

Wow, how much time do you have? I’m pretty sure all the famous people are in Dune, at least for a little bit, but here are the names that jumped out at me:

• Timothée Chalamet as Paul Atreides, a.k.a. protagonist No. 1/the chosen one?

• Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto Atreides, a.k.a. Paul’s daddy and yours ;)

• Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica, Isaac’s witchy concubine and Paul’s mom

• Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho, what a name

• Stellan Skarsgård as the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, obviously a villain

• Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck (?)

• Javier Bardem as Stilgar (¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

• Charlotte Rampling as Reverend Mother Mohiam, an elder stateswoman of the powerful witchy sisterhood to which Lady Jessica also belongs

• … and, drumroll, please: Zendaya (duh) as Chani, Paul’s love interest and the person invading his dreams

In short: whole buncha hotties!

Though Paul and Chani do eventually get together and have at least one kid, it’s unclear to me how much of that relationship will come up in the course of this first movie. The trailers above have these two on the brink of kissing, but … I don’t know how much we’ll get to see. Apparently, Zendaya doesn’t feature heavily in this movie despite carrying a lot of the promotional material.

Plus, the butthole worm is extremely unsexy, to the degree that it could easily suck the horniness out of everything in at least a two-hour radius.

The reviews are predictably mixed! Variety says, “Spectacular and engrossing … until it isn’t.” IndieWire calls Villeneuve’s Dune “a massive disappointment.” By contrast, the Guardian raves, “Blockbuster cinema at its dizzying, dazzling best,” while The New Republic says “the new Dune is the adaptation Frank Herbert’s novel deserves.” In a diplomatically even review, RogerEbert.comdescribes it as “a more-than-satisfactory movie” version of a labyrinthine book. (3.5 stars!)

To me, it sounds like the central problem of making a Dune movie comes down to the confounding nature of Herbert’s fictional universe, which simply doesn’t lend itself well to clear, concise storytelling. But anyway, a number of critics agree that real Dune fans will really like Villeneuve’s effort, meaning there’s no hope for me.
 
I hate this article. Why is this lady so horny? Bitch its a movie theater not a porno theater nobody cares that youre getting wet and want to see that guy fuck the love interest, but the sandworm looking "like a butthole" is such a boner killer.

Also is this an article where she just read a bunch of other articles and took a bunch of quotes and memes from them, making an article like, "Hey you know cliffnotes? Journalism is so fucked now, were making an amalgamation article thats a cliff notes of other articles."

I had a lot of thoughts trying to figure out, "What Dune is" while reading it, the only thing I liked was the one dudes quote mentioning scale, which is kinda cool in movies. I dont watch movies but that concept of scale is something Ive always found cool visually, but it made me think this movie kinda sounds like it wants to be Avatar, but in Star Wars.

What is wrong with this publication: https://www.thecut.com/2020/09/dune-trailer-zendaya-timothe-chalamet-and-jason-momoa.html "Wow the Dune trailer is so HOT!"
Jesus christ I guess I knew it was an ad but what are you selling? Dont ever write about objectification again, I know celebrities are 'sex sells' icons but come on keep that shit in the jerk off subreddits or whatever.
 
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Critical thinking skills? What's that?

This is why the term and associated cultural baggage of "pop culture" needs to fucking die, like back in the late 2000s. Geekshit isn't supposed to be "popular", because thinking gives you wrinkles and kills the joy of other lowlife carousers and indulgent wanton ignoramuses.
 
Critical thinking skills? What's that?

This is why the term and associated cultural baggage of "pop culture" needs to fucking die, like back in the late 2000s. Geekshit isn't supposed to be "popular", because thinking gives you wrinkles and kills the joy of other lowlife carousers and indulgent wanton ignoramuses.
I think the intent of this article is to iron those wrinkles back out.
 
Interestingly I now want to see the movie just to laugh at the butthole worm, even though I consider Dune to be Warhammer's inferior and arab-tasting predecessor. And yes I saw most of the old movie, though I fell asleep at times. Propably my fault and not the movies though.
As long as you saw Sting getting killed with a knife, it's all good. If she wants to watch people getting it on, there's always the Fifth and sixth books.

Also Tolkien was notoriously hard to please when it came to writing. He hated Narnia because it was allegory. I'm sure whatever his reasoning was, it was probably sound.
 
Came for the sand & salt, stayed for the butthole worms.
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Came for the sand & salt, stayed for the butthole worms.
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The fact that this woman thinks a human arsehole should look like that, explains a lot about her. More than I wanted to know really.

Dune is not a hard book to understand, Dune is not a hard film to understand. It's science fiction with about a dozen themes, most of those themes are almost innately understood by most people. 'Think for yourself', 'Coming of age', 'man and the relationship with nature', 'The role of tradition and custom'. 'Free will Vs destiny'. These aren't hidden, they are pretty plainly spelled out, and they are pretty bluntly put to the forefront.

If you don't 'get' everything about Dune, sure, fine. But if you plainly fail to grasp - or even try to grasp - some of the most basic and innately human concerns that Herbert puts into his work then you're developmentally challenged, and I - without irony, or with any scrap of humour - think you should be chemically sterilised. Because you don't actually have thoughts, you have quick flashes of light and noise that you expel.
 
The fact that this woman thinks a human arsehole should look like that, explains a lot about her. More than I wanted to know really.

Dune is not a hard book to understand, Dune is not a hard film to understand. It's science fiction with about a dozen themes, most of those themes are almost innately understood by most people. 'Think for yourself', 'Coming of age', 'man and the relationship with nature', 'The role of tradition and custom'. 'Free will Vs destiny'. These aren't hidden, they are pretty plainly spelled out, and they are pretty bluntly put to the forefront.

If you don't 'get' everything about Dune, sure, fine. But if you plainly fail to grasp - or even try to grasp - some of the most basic and innately human concerns that Herbert puts into his work then you're developmentally challenged, and I - without irony, or with any scrap of humour - think you should be chemically sterilised. Because you don't actually have thoughts, you have quick flashes of light and noise that you expel.
There’s no quips. Mcu ruined cinema especially sci-fi that would refer to stay serious
 
The fact that this woman thinks a human arsehole should look like that, explains a lot about her. More than I wanted to know really.

Dune is not a hard book to understand, Dune is not a hard film to understand. It's science fiction with about a dozen themes, most of those themes are almost innately understood by most people. 'Think for yourself', 'Coming of age', 'man and the relationship with nature', 'The role of tradition and custom'. 'Free will Vs destiny'. These aren't hidden, they are pretty plainly spelled out, and they are pretty bluntly put to the forefront.

If you don't 'get' everything about Dune, sure, fine. But if you plainly fail to grasp - or even try to grasp - some of the most basic and innately human concerns that Herbert puts into his work then you're developmentally challenged, and I - without irony, or with any scrap of humour - think you should be chemically sterilised. Because you don't actually have thoughts, you have quick flashes of light and noise that you expel.
Yeah, I thought this article might break down some of the specifics of the plot and keeping track of different characters, because there are a lot of groups with very different motivations and it can be hard to keep track of all the plots and pieces the first time - ESPECIALLY in a 2 hour movie that will have to cut subplots. That would have actually been a useful article.

There’s also the subtler themes about why the Fremen have such Arabian culture, and why that culture opens them up to this in ways that other cultures might not.

But yeah, anyone can understand “fear is the mind killer.” That’s why it was in so many nerd yearbook quotes.
 
Only if you're a fucking idiot with no appreciation for any kind of political intrigue. Its actually a pretty basic power-struggle story.
The reverend mother literally spouts off her groups driving philosophy the moment she arrives. The deeper 'themes' of Dune, you do need to read background material for, but the basic stuff is bluntly told to you. I can understand someone not getting the ideas of men with machine minds, or the concept of 'what is human', but to not 'get' some of the most blunt and simple themes of the book/film/TV mini is mind boggling to me.
 
Dune is not a hard book to understand, Dune is not a hard film to understand. It's science fiction with about a dozen themes, most of those themes are almost innately understood by most people. 'Think for yourself', 'Coming of age', 'man and the relationship with nature', 'The role of tradition and custom'. 'Free will Vs destiny'. These aren't hidden, they are pretty plainly spelled out, and they are pretty bluntly put to the forefront.
That's why it's so stale; groundbreaking & fresh then, an overwrought remake now. Everything I've seen so far that's been added or changed hasn't benefitted the understanding of the original work, instead largely dumbing it down & making it more palatable for marketing to current-year viewers.

If they had wanted to make a true space opera trilogy, the Revelation Space series by Alistair Reynolds would've been an excellent bet.

It covers all of the concepts found in Dune; man v. nature, coming of age, religion vs scientific fanaticism vs. fascism vs. capitalism, transhumanism, drug use, body horror, romance, aliens, crime, stellar warfare, all bound together with hefty doses of literal, actual hard science & quantum physics. And modern special effects would also help improve the understanding the core concepts & conflicts, instead of just reimagining/rewriting scenes done decades previously.
 
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That's why it's so stale; groundbreaking & fresh then, an overwrought remake now. Everything I've seen so far that's been added or changed hasn't benefitted the understanding of the original work, instead largely dumbing it down & making it more palatable for marketing to current-year viewers.

If they had wanted to make a true space opera trilogy, the Revelation Space series by Alistair Reynolds would've been an excellent bet. It covers all of the concepts found in Dune; man v. nature, coming of age, religion vs scientific fanaticism, transhumanism, body horror, romance, aliens, crime, stellar warfare, and all bound together with hefty doses of literal, actual hard science & quantum physics. And modern special effects would also help improve the understanding the core concepts & conflicts, instead of just reimagining scenes done decades previously.
I largely agree. I love Dune, it's a great book series. But it's also an old book series, and I've re-read it to death. Modern sci-fi is by and large trash though.
 
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