Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

It's less of a "I need to acquire items/spend money." than "I need to do something useful, but like, in a lazy way." feeling, at least for me anyway.
E.g. For me the "I need to do something" breakdown is like so:
↑ energy, ↓ neuroticism, need to feel productive = Make money
↑ energy, ↑ neuroticism, need to feel productive but not necessarily make money = Cleaning
↓ energy, need to feel useful, but necessarily productive or make money = Shopping


I understand it perfectly, I feel the same. It usually happens when I feel like I’m wasting time but I don’t have work to do or the energy for it, just like you said.
I feel like a weird urge to “fill the pantry” that I wouldn’t be able to describe precisely. The good things is that I’m very good at resisting.
 
I didn't even know there was such a thing.

I've obviously had a desire to buy particular items before, but never a desire to simply buy something.
I sometimes get a similar feel, though it's only something I get at times when I haven't spent any of my monthly hobby budget and I'm trying to figure out which hobby I feel like spending on. Usually I just end up getting nothing after spending a couple days screwing around with sample carts. Can also make it go away by buying a book or something cheap that fits into a hobby and tricking the brain into thinking the budget was 'spent' even if most of the budget wasn't.

It's more of an annoyance since it feels like the brain being a bugger, somewhat hard to describe. For the people in thread it might just be that they're bad at telling their brain "no" or making a compromise when they get a similar feeling, no idea if budget even comes into play for them.
 
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The admitted submission to consooming whatever Marvel puts out is saddening. Whatever happened to consumption based on interest? Quality over quantity? If you replaced the mindless entertainment they guzzled down with food, these people would be Deathfats.
 
And cashless shopping makes it even worse since it's much easier to be impulsive when you aren't forking over physical cash that you can see disappearing.
I always take out what I've budgeted in cash whenever I go shopping for clothes, hobby supplies, or anything else that involves browsing for things in a brick-and-mortar store. I have more inhibition when it comes to online shopping, but irl, this effect is very real.
 
The admitted submission to consooming whatever Marvel puts out is saddening. Whatever happened to consumption based on interest? Quality over quantity? If you replaced the mindless entertainment they guzzled down with food, these people would be Deathfats.

These people formed parasocial relationships with and through Marvel’s stuff, they don’t really care about innovation because continuity is essential for their wellbeing.
 
These people formed parasocial relationships with and through Marvel’s stuff, they don’t really care about innovation because continuity is essential for their wellbeing.
But why would anyone have this emotional connection to Marvel of all things? Their early movies were objectively some of the worst capeshit of all time. I vividly remember when the first Thor film was panned by everyone, I heard back then some friends calling the first Captain America a fucking bomb.

I don't understand this phenomenon at all, the first Avengers looks like a zero-budget TV special.
 
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But why anyone would have this emotional connection to Marvel of all things? Their early movies were objectively some of the worst capeshit of all time. I vividly remember when the first Thor film was panned by everyone, I heard back then some friends calling the first Captain America a fucking bomb.

I don't understand this phenomenon at all, the first Avengers looks like a zero-budget TV special.

I’ve never seen the movies so I can’t tell for sure, I guess it’s just a very powerful combination of good marketing and appealing casting.

Disney is also good a “community building” and they know very well hot to handle fans and fandoms.
 
They've also been around for a decade, and so similar to Harry Potter there are a lot of people that "grew up" or "matured" with those movies and so see those movies as being a large part of a long portion of their lives. Movies and TV shows have made a weird bizzarro world flip flop now that streaming services encourage binge watching of entire seasons of a show at once and the cinematic universe concept has made it so that movies can stretch on for a decade or more.

EDIT: I think that rose tinted glasses also play a huge part since if the good movies are really good you're more likely to remember the high points and gloss over the shit movies. If you have shit taste to begin with this get even easier to do.
 
But why would anyone have this emotional connection to Marvel of all things? Their early movies were objectively some of the worst capeshit of all time. I vividly remember when the first Thor film was panned by everyone, I heard back then some friends calling the first Captain America a fucking bomb.

I don't understand this phenomenon at all, the first Avengers looks like a zero-budget TV special.
This is why.


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They can simply force their way into the mainstream with the mere exposure effect.

The most expensive movie in Japan's history is Spirited Away iirc. At 20 odd million dollars, beating Akira that costed 10 million dollars. So imagine ten times the budget of the most expensive japanese film ever only for advertising.
 
They can simply force their way into the mainstream with the mere exposure effect.

This makes me glad that I turned down the offer to see Endgame in theatres a couple years ago with my friends. There's just something so.. boring about Marvel. I'm not surprised the movies were such a big hit and you still see the Marvel logo plastered on people's stuff, but the continuation of their never ending TV shows and plastic trash is wearing on me.

I think I'm just triggered more because I was gifted a "Nerdy" Trivia Game for my birthday and the Entertainment category questions are mostly Disney/Marvel. Like is this what games has fallen to? That I need to memorize a bunch of advertisements in order to flex my "knowledge" over my friends? I'll take losing the game, thanks.
 
This makes me glad that I turned down the offer to see Endgame in theatres a couple years ago with my friends. There's just something so.. boring about Marvel. I'm not surprised the movies were such a big hit and you still see the Marvel logo plastered on people's stuff, but the continuation of their never ending TV shows and plastic trash is wearing on me.

I think I'm just triggered more because I was gifted a "Nerdy" Trivia Game for my birthday and the Entertainment category questions are mostly Disney/Marvel. Like is this what games has fallen to? That I need to memorize a bunch of advertisements in order to flex my "knowledge" over my friends? I'll take losing the game, thanks.
Well if being a "nerd" is popular, then it has to be redefined so that it means "I like Star Wars, Marvel and Harry Potter" . You can't allow a popular identity to be confined to a niche product.

What's the current term for what "nerd" used to imply. Grognard? Or was "nerd" culture always this shallow, it's just that Tolkien was such a genius that his work & its derivatives temporarily elevated the fantasy genre from childish bullshit to something intellectuals could appreciate, and pseuds could parrot to sound smart.
 
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This makes me glad that I turned down the offer to see Endgame in theatres a couple years ago with my friends. There's just something so.. boring about Marvel. I'm not surprised the movies were such a big hit and you still see the Marvel logo plastered on people's stuff, but the continuation of their never ending TV shows and plastic trash is wearing on me.

I think I'm just triggered more because I was gifted a "Nerdy" Trivia Game for my birthday and the Entertainment category questions are mostly Disney/Marvel. Like is this what games has fallen to? That I need to memorize a bunch of advertisements in order to flex my "knowledge" over my friends? I'll take losing the game, thanks.
200 million usd advertising budget buys a LOT of things. That means you get ads where you wouldn't even thought of would be adds, you get gay ops, , fake communities. Fake trends, fake news. etc. That amount of exposure and above and below the line bombardment unavoidably seeps into the culture and fucks shit up pretty bad. Is like it steamrolls everything there is in life with BRAND™. At that level is not just a matter of "just don't watch it" because the marketing is design to annoy you and be intrusive even if you don't.

And a holiday apppropiate consoom trivia. Disney actually tried to trademark "Day of the dead/Dia de los muertos" just to promote Coco.
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200 million usd advertising budget buys a LOT of things. That means you get ads where you wouldn't even thought of would be adds, you get gay ops, , fake communities. Fake trends, fake news. etc. That amount of exposure and above and below the line bombardment unavoidably seeps into the culture and fucks shit up pretty bad. Is like it steamrolls everything there is in life with BRAND™. At that level is not just a matter of "just don't watch it" because the marketing is design to annoy you and be intrusive even if you don't.
Avengers Endgame has to be up there with the first Disney Star Wars movie in terms of most over-advertised thing ever, although I'd put that Disney Star Wars movie as number one because I never saw anything like that up to that point in my life in terms of something being over-advertised. I really shudder to think how many shills that pays.
And a holiday apppropiate consoom trivia. Disney actually tried to trademark "Day of the dead/Dia de los muertos" just to promote Coco.
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This is a great advertisement at a low cost. All they have to do is get their in-house copyright trolls to file a trademark and then call a "journalist", and the media prints this story as fake outrage. Getting your product in the news is an old advertising tactic that goes straight back to propagandist and PR master Edward Bernays. Either Disney gets a free news story that gets shared on social media, or Disney gets to copyright a Mexican holiday, win-win
 
They've also been around for a decade, and so similar to Harry Potter there are a lot of people that "grew up" or "matured" with those movies and so see those movies as being a large part of a long portion of their lives. Movies and TV shows have made a weird bizzarro world flip flop now that streaming services encourage binge watching of entire seasons of a show at once and the cinematic universe concept has made it so that movies can stretch on for a decade or more.

EDIT: I think that rose tinted glasses also play a huge part since if the good movies are really good you're more likely to remember the high points and gloss over the shit movies. If you have shit taste to begin with this get even easier to do.
I rewatched the original Iron Man a while ago and lackluster villain aside, it's a solid movie in its own right. So they really started off on a strong note. One would have to wonder if it would've gotten as much initial momentum if it had been Thor or Cap whose movie was released first.

Edit: Thinking back on it, Stane really isn't even that bad of a villain. He actually has a personal motivation against Tony, and we see him acting as sort of a mentor figure to him so even the betrayal aspect works. It's mostly the ending with him donning the Iron Monger suit that's kinda dumb and contrived. But as far as MCU villains go, I think he ends up being on the high end of middle-of-the-road.

Marvel also revolutionized the "cinematic universe" by actually maintaining a remarkable sense of consistency and sticking to an overarching plot. Compare this to the X-men movies, which are only nominally set in the same continuity, with how many characters get completely thrown out and recast between movies and now utterly nonsensical the timeline is. And of course compare it to every contemporary attempt to kick off a cinematic universe that inevitably fails after the first movie.

I contend that the main reason the MCU succeeded is the promise of constantly leading to something bigger. That's why everyone makes such a big deal about the post-credits scenes - it's always about what's coming next, how this movie ties into the greater universe. So when Nick Fury showed up at the end of Iron Man talking about the "Avengers initiative", audiences were willing to sit through the mediocre but ultimately inoffensive Cap and Thor 1 to get to the real star of the show, Avengers (which for the record I think is a god-awful movie, but normies have shit taste so of course they eat it up).
 
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I rewatched the original Iron Man a while ago and lackluster villain aside, it's a solid movie in its own right. So they really started off on a strong note. One would have to wonder if it would've gotten as much initial momentum if it had been Thor or Cap whose movie was released first.
We almost had the answer to that.


If Iron Man had been delayed a couple of months, this would have been the kickstart to the MCU, and seeing how the whole Hulk thing turned out, it would have probably been a disaster.
 
I didn't even know there was such a thing.

I've obviously had a desire to buy particular items before, but never a desire to simply buy something.
I sometimes get a similar feel, though it's only something I get at times when I haven't spent any of my monthly hobby budget and I'm trying to figure out which hobby I feel like spending on. Usually I just end up getting nothing after spending a couple days screwing around with sample carts. Can also make it go away by buying a book or something cheap that fits into a hobby and tricking the brain into thinking the budget was 'spent' even if most of the budget wasn't.

It's more of an annoyance since it feels like the brain being a bugger, somewhat hard to describe. For the people in thread it might just be that they're bad at telling their brain "no" or making a compromise when they get a similar feeling, no idea if budget even comes into play for them.
Everytime I look at this thread, I have to be glad I have only like 1 or 2 things I want but would be on my "to-do on the future" list instead of buying it immediately. Seeing people just buying something for the sake of it is very alien to me, like why die for a nonliving thing when you can wait a year or 2 to reconsider if its still worth it.
 
They've also been around for a decade, and so similar to Harry Potter there are a lot of people that "grew up" or "matured" with those movies and so see those movies as being a large part of a long portion of their lives. Movies and TV shows have made a weird bizzarro world flip flop now that streaming services encourage binge watching of entire seasons of a show at once and the cinematic universe concept has made it so that movies can stretch on for a decade or more.

EDIT: I think that rose tinted glasses also play a huge part since if the good movies are really good you're more likely to remember the high points and gloss over the shit movies. If you have shit taste to begin with this get even easier to do.
Nostalgia is a very powerful thing because it goes right past logic and adds a sense of sentimentality to whatever you're getting nostalgic about due to all the attached memories. Personal example, but the film series that I grew up with and still love dearly even with its flaws is the Raimi Spider-man trilogy. Even if I 'grew up' along with Harry Potter I never felt the same level of attachment towards it even if I liked the films. Child me was peak consoomer because everything had to Spider-man related and I rewatched that trilogy constantly to the annoyance of my parents (along with all the various Spider-man cartoons).

The thing though is that even with all my attachment to Spider-man as a character I have zero interest in lining up for any of the newer Spider-man films they've been pumping out, only exception was for Spiderverse because it was something different. Even the new movie where they are clearly marketing towards nostalgia does nothing for me because I know they'll probably fuck it up somehow and not understand what made the original trilogy so good (plus Tom Holland just doesn't work as Spider-man for me). Unless they bring Raimi back to direct I can't see it working, but I just know the Marvel simps will still rave about how great the cameos are because they like anything Marvel puts out.
I rewatched the original Iron Man a while ago and lackluster villain aside, it's a solid movie in its own right. So they really started off on a strong note. One would have to wonder if it would've gotten as much initial momentum if it had been Thor or Cap whose movie was released first.

Marvel also revolutionized the "cinematic universe" by actually maintaining a remarkable sense of consistency and sticking to an overarching plot. Compare this to the X-men movies, which are only nominally set in the same continuity, with how many characters get completely thrown out and recast between movies and now utterly nonsensical the timeline is. And of course compare it to every contemporary attempt to kick off a cinematic universe that inevitably fails after the first movie.
When I still actually watched Marvel films I always found the worst films were the big assemble cast films they kept hyping up, one of the reasons I still have yet to see Endgame even if it's the 'end point' for the characters I did like. The self contained stories had more attempts at telling an interesting story.
I contend that the main reason the MCU succeeded is the promise of constantly leading to something bigger. That's why everyone makes such a big deal about the post-credits scenes - it's always about what's coming next, how this movie ties into the greater universe. So when Nick Fury showed up at the end of Iron Man talking about the "Avengers initiative", audiences were willing to sit through the mediocre but ultimately inoffensive Cap and Thor 1 to get to the real star of the show, Avengers (which for the record I think is a god-awful movie, but normies have shit taste so of course they eat it up).
As much as I agree that the original Iron Man is the better film, the first Cap film is what made me like Cap so much as a character and ultimately led to him being basically the only character who's story I cared about watching. While the last part of the film (excluding that final plane scene) was mediocre at best, the beginning half is just a solid film in my books that makes up for the lacking second half.
Everytime I look at this thread, I have to be glad I have only like 1 or 2 things I want but would be on my "to-do on the future" list instead of buying it immediately. Seeing people just buying something for the sake of it is very alien to me, like why die for a nonliving thing when you can wait a year or 2 to reconsider if its still worth it.
For most of my hobbies there isn't really a pressing need to get anything immediately as most things can always be picked up later. Where there is a lot a consoomer problems is in the realm of boutique bluray which thrive on FOMO and shiny limited packaging to get people to not think and just click buy. Most labels release standard editions after the fact, but they're usually physically bare bones or might be missing a couple extra features, which makes them a lot cheaper to collect. It's not a problem for say, Criterion films since they never really do limited editions, but it's pretty common with the other big names. Probably the biggest abuser of limited editions is Arrow films, especially recently with the 4k releases (which 4k in general just seems like consoomer realm scam full of annoying whining) of films they've already released. Take for example this redditor that has bought 3 copies of the exact same films with not much difference it the actual contents just to get the limited edition packaging and 4k release:
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or you had people rushing to buy the 4k Dune release even while admitting they don't even like the film, but they needed to get it for the "beautiful packaging" that contains the film. Same thing was happening with the Shout Factory 4k Halloween releases that people where rushing to buy all of even if they only liked 1 or 2 of them. This isn't even getting into the shitshow that is slipcovers where some people get actually anger when someone mentions that they just toss all their slipcovers, get anger over corners dings that 'ruin' the cardboard cover, and buy films simply because the slipcover looks nice even if the actual film sucks or they already have it.
 
i miss it when the most you'd expect from fans of something was a poster or something small like that.

nowadays I get gatekept from marvel shit by MCU consoomers who insult me for caring about the source material and for not wanting to buy every piece of consoomable plastic
 
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