r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

How will society function without jobs?


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I don't know about the sign but the cardboard garden and the sentiment were real. It was from that Autonomous Zone they made during the dindu protests. Iirc the free food tent was raided by the homeless and someone got raped within the first 12 hours.
Don't forget the several people that were murdered and the rapper that became a warlord.
 
Leftists getting rekt by the poor marginalized people they care for so much is always hilarious. It's all socjus and utopian dreams until the impoverished street people steal all your shit and take advantage of every kindness for their own personal gain.

I see that sub getting way too political and divisive with the influx of reddit troons. They're going to take what little common ground everyone has ie "work sucks and we should improve the standards of living somewhat" and turn it into the typical idolizing of minorities and Current Year rhetoric.
 
Leftists getting rekt by the poor marginalized people they care for so much is always hilarious. It's all socjus and utopian dreams until the impoverished street people steal all your shit and take advantage of every kindness for their own personal gain.

I see that sub getting way too political and divisive with the influx of reddit troons. They're going to take what little common ground everyone has ie "work sucks and we should improve the standards of living somewhat" and turn it into the typical idolizing of minorities and Current Year rhetoric.
Same with OWS. The "progressive stack" and blue hairs were brought in to destroy a populist movement led by white men because it was demanding an end to the rule of (((oligarchs))).
 
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Mfw humanity advanced past anarchic farming societies and created rational governments.
tfw Twitter for Iphone complains abt capitalism again

I wonder if these anarchist retards just sit and think the whole world was some agricultural paradise where everyone got food and treated each other fairly before the darn dirty state came into existence.
 
Am I alone in this community just feeling intensely American? The civilized part of the world lets you work 9 to 5 and afford a decent apartment, as well as time and money to have hobbies. Worst case, god forbid, you can dump 2-4 years into a degree meant for people who made it out of public school and end up earning $5500 a month tending machines that do the work for you.

It's as if the American existence is either investing into a degree that gets you a decent wage, or whine about a lack of desire to endebt yourself because you know your career of choice isn't viable.
 
It's as if the American existence is either investing into a degree that gets you a decent wage, or whine about a lack of desire to endebt yourself because you know your career of choice isn't viable.
Even a degree that will get you a decent wage will still leave you in a lot of debt (unless you're lucky with scholarships/family), and god forbid you don't get the job you wanted in that field right away. And then there's a fuckton of younger people who bought into the "college = success" meme that was promoted in PSAs aimed on children's TV in the 90s who end up pissed because they have a fuckton of debt but no good job in their field of choice because it doesn't exist for anyone who doesn't have a graduate degree (and even then usually exists for a tiny fraction of said people with degree).

It's not really surprising there's a lot of people pissed about their life circumstance when the system practically sets you up to fail, the problem is they never blame the right people (like the college industry, the people inflating requirements for simple jobs, the economic system being rigged for the wealthy) and instead go straight for utopian thinking of various sorts.
 
A parasite that kills its host is a dumb parasite. These people are essentially moochers . if you want free tugboats and free consumer goods you can't possibly be against the only thing making it possible which is other people's labor
They're all about communism and "owning the means of production" until that actually happens and there's no chinese slave making them their iphones and stocking their cabinets.
 
They're all about communism and "owning the means of production" until that actually happens and there's no chinese slave making them their iphones and stocking their cabinets.
thats also something they can do already. They could crowdfund cooperative the same way they crowdfund for hrt and videogames or start a company and make every employee a stock holder or could just partner with other commies and each get equal shares on every project. They won't though, whining on the couch and dreaming of the government taking other people's property away and eliminating scarcity via magic is easier,
 
AI and automation will just do it for us. Trust me it'll be fine
No problems can possibly result from this.
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I wish they would stop calling machine learning algorithms "AI". There's literally no intelligence involved.

Indeed, and the claims in that article are idiotic:

"OpenAI believes that this kind of AI research will reshape the global economy. Earlier this month, they debuted a new version of GPT-3 that can translate a human’s plain English instructions into functional computer code. “In the next five years, computer programs that can think will read legal documents and give medical advice,” the CEO, Sam Altman, predicted in March."

In five years we'll take medical and legal advice from a inscrutable ML dataset? Right... About as much chance of that as JK Rowling changing her gender in five years time. And is that the same wonderful "AI" that will "reliably cast one of their Middle Eastern actors in stereotypical roles: as a terrorist, as a rapist — or as a man with a backpack full of explosives"?
 
Indeed, and the claims in that article are idiotic:

"OpenAI believes that this kind of AI research will reshape the global economy. Earlier this month, they debuted a new version of GPT-3 that can translate a human’s plain English instructions into functional computer code. “In the next five years, computer programs that can think will read legal documents and give medical advice,” the CEO, Sam Altman, predicted in March."

In five years we'll take medical and legal advice from a inscrutable ML dataset? Right... About as much chance of that as JK Rowling changing her gender in five years time. And is that the same wonderful "AI" that will "reliably cast one of their Middle Eastern actors in stereotypical roles: as a terrorist, as a rapist — or as a man with a backpack full of explosives"?
I posted it specifically because it's an article written by and for retards. It's not only hilarious, it's also the kind of thing redditors would take seriously.

It's ironic that leftoid struggle sessions over how racist ML is (especially in genetics/healthcare) are saving us from being forced to use a system that will cost billions and only further cement the uselessness of the modern healthcare system. Watching futurists cope and seethe over people they can't criticize destroy the misguided dystopian vision they have is great entertainment.
 
In five years we'll take medical and legal advice from a inscrutable ML dataset? Right... About as much chance of that as JK Rowling changing her gender in five years time.
Yeah, this is basically never going to happen. It's a medical liability nightmare. Let's assume my "radiologist" is a computer and it does the findings and impression of an MRI scan on a patient. This is probably going to be the first area they go in since computer vision is getting pretty good and has been used to increase the quality of diagnostic imaging anyway.

Now, if the MRI report is wrong and something goes wrong with treatment who gets sued? Me? For believing it? The developers? For being wrong? Who knows. There have been a few medmal cases where the radiologist fucked up and those cases are always a clusterfuck in general. Adding a computer to the mix would make it even worse.
 
Yeah, this is basically never going to happen. It's a medical liability nightmare. Let's assume my "radiologist" is a computer and it does the findings and impression of an MRI scan on a patient. This is probably going to be the first area they go in since computer vision is getting pretty good and has been used to increase the quality of diagnostic imaging anyway.

Now, if the MRI report is wrong and something goes wrong with treatment who gets sued? Me? For believing it? The developers? For being wrong? Who knows. There have been a few medmal cases where the radiologist fucked up and those cases are always a clusterfuck in general. Adding a computer to the mix would make it even worse.
It'd be even worse in other areas of the field. The amount of absolute nonsense related to experimental drugs and therapies printed in medical journals makes any ML algorithm trained on "the literature" completely worthless, and good luck getting a holistic diagnosis from a machine that doesn't have the capacity to examine things in anything more than a series of binary judgments.

Suffice to say, actually skilled white collar professions will never be automated, because the people doing the automation have no idea how to do those jobs whatsoever.
 
The people in that subreddit need to understand that "antiwork" is the inverse of work, where work is an active pursuit. Just being unemployed or not working is not antiwork, that is "no-work" which is a neutral and passive state. One would need to be on something akin to vacation where they are actively pursuing activities that are the pure enjoyment which cost money, without any appreciable work being done. That would be "antiwork" since it is the active, inverse state of work. Morons don't even understand the word they are using to describe their ideal state. Most of them probably think that antiwork is the "opposite" of work, which it isn't, it's the inverse. The opposite of work, with work defined as the active pursuit of results that reduces the quantum of what needs to be accomplished, would be the active pursuit of generating work by increasing the amount of effort required for the quantum of what needs to be accomplished.

I thought college required people to take bullshit courses in general education that taught this kind of shit?
 
It'd be even worse in other areas of the field. The amount of absolute nonsense related to experimental drugs and therapies printed in medical journals makes any ML algorithm trained on "the literature" completely worthless, and good luck getting a holistic diagnosis from a machine that doesn't have the capacity to examine things in anything more than a series of binary judgments.
Yeah there was a whole bit of drama a while back because the peer review process for medical journals is basically bullshit. I think the chief editor of the BMJ quit over it. So your algorithm would have to read medical studies and also judge their quality to make sure they're actually done well. This is not...easy.
 
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