I'm not even really interested in a discussion. I've provided receipts which people can interpret as they see fit. The issue is that CWCki has false pretensions to objectivity. I don't. My agenda is obvious from the stuff I'm writing. Yours (I'm assuming you're a CWCki editor and speaking collectively here) is shady, hidden and took significant digging to uncover.
I mean at this point, the man is in jail and aside from prison letters there is probably zero ways of fucking with him, judge will probably permanently lumberjack his internet though there are people willing to enable irl it will be a massive barrier to entry for potential autists.
Aye, he directly inserted himself in the drama, and was one of the few people willing to use their audience to give Bella a voice, publicly doxxed Fiona at the height of this, and spent a chunk of his time muddying the waters in the Bellagate shit due to his own vanity. He may be shitty, but he had his own part to play in that entire saga.
Of course I put that stuff up there. If I were calling the shots the full dox of all these idiots would be up there. I realize that's not gonna happen and that the way things are done on the former CWCki Forum and the way things are done on the CWCki itself diverged a long time ago. But you guys need to make a policy and stick to it. I keep bringing up MKR because the contrast between her and, say, Anaxis, couldn't be more blatant both in her article and behind the scenes. Remember @The American Hedgehog tried to send me dirt on her to divert attention from Sean.
For me, that was again a hindsight thing. While GiBi certainly was a shithead for what he had done, I feel the focus on the CWCki should be more about Chris, and the events that surround him. Initially I gave into the whole "drama outside of Chris" sentiment, as Chris content had seemingly dried up at the time. That was admitedly incompetence on my part.
Absolutely not. Devon is very obviously very unhappy about getting doxed as are all of these idiots. If they got a glowing review or even a casual mention they'd like it. Not so if their fuckery is highlighted. No woman wants to be called ugly and have her picture put up as was Ellen's (now removed), no author wants his book disparaged as was Winfield's (also removed) and Devon definitely doesn't want to have his whole scandal documented.
TBF, I also wasn't around for a lot of the Watchmen happenings, nor did I really follow the MKR stuff, so I can't really answer much for either. MKR was initially put up on the site, and that hasn't been changed in ages. Plus, based on the edit history, a LOT of stuff regarding the Watchmen seems very outdated on the page. Again, I take this more as incompetence than outright malice, especially if HTL was actually in those Discords, and did nothing to add to those pages.
OK, let's fix it. I have loads of receipts on all these people including stuff that would flesh out various spots tagged with citation needed. Obviously I can't do this now because I caught a ban for trying to discuss the problems that are going on behind the scenes and thus several things I was working on remain unfinished.
>everyone who disagrees with me is a cwcki editor
If you're not, that's fine and I apologize, I just assumed from the way you were talking and figured most people in this thread would be.
I'd ask you to actually read my first post this time, and if you think I'm backtracking on the fact that there is major league fuckery going on or apologizing for making it public, you are very much mistaken. At this point I am reasonably sure that the only acceptable "change" at this point is going to come through cutting out the rot by way of a resignation or two. As for being banned, LOL. Best proof that something is going on and people are acting in bad faith that I could've asked for.
Honestly, I feel that a lot of what Spooky and Big Guy are saying here aren't particularly wrong, as they are legitimate concerns. The problem for me is the delivery above all else. There certainly are some inconsistencies going on on the CWCki, mostly in how we handle the contacting of Chris; that it's a big no-no, and it most certainly paints a pretty conflicting message when we have people like Anaxis (a former editor of the site who had ties with the Watchmen, mind you) censored on the site while done by a sock account, all while he contacted Chris himself. That's not a particularly good look for the CWCki. I will also admit that redacting names of lesser known weens like Winfield, GiBi, and Electric probably wasn't exactly a bright move in that regard, since people were already suspicious of the Anaxis stuff. The concern with those three people were specifically that they're lesser known in comparison to say Joshua Wise, and haven't really done much other than trespass on property, which the CWCki really shouldn't have much responsibility to document. And with GiBi the most he's really done was leak Suitress's phone number. Including him was ultimately a hindsight thing.
