Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[JosephStalin]

Here we go again. Utterly disgusting. Glad I don't go many places.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE CARMEL PINE CONE

November 2, 2021, 2:08 p.m.

STRANGE BUT TRUE — MONTEREY COUNTY MASK MANDATE STARTS FRIDAY

Dear Readers,

What time is it when the CDC says the coronavirus epidemic in Monterey County is twice as bad as state and county officials say?

Time to put on a mask, it turns out, because when the county board of supervisors voted in September to start requiring everyone to wear face masks indoors, they made the mandate dependent on the CDC's reporting of new cases in the county, with a threshold of at least 50 new cases per 100,000 residents per week.

Today, the CDC said that Monterey County had 85.7 new cases per 100,000 residents over the last week, well over the 50-case minimum, which means the county's mask mandate will begin Friday and stay in effect for at least 30 days. (For complete details about the new facemask rules, click here.)

However, there's a problem for anyone trying to understand why the mask mandate is needed, or for any journalist trying to explain it, because not only is the delta variant said to be receding across the country, the California Department of Public Health says Monterey County's rate of new cases is currently 5.1 per 100,000 residents per day, or 35.7 per week — less than half of what the CDC says. And the Monterey County health department says the rate is 4.8 cases per 100,000 residents per day, or 33.6 per week — which is only about 40 percent of the CDC number.

Meanwhile, all other metrics also indicate that, while there's been a slight uptick in cases lately, the county's epidemic is at a low level, with county health reporting only 11 Covid-positive patients among the county's 4 hospitals (there were more than 200 in early January), along with a 7-day test positivity rate in the county of 2.4 percent. Also, most zip codes in the county are reporting very low levels of new infections (see our Cases and Rates by Zip Code chart below).

Why does the CDC say we have much higher levels of new infections than other sources? And why did the county suddenly decide to make imposition of a new mask mandate dependent on CDC data, when it's always relied on local data before? We have tried to get answers to these questions, but no luck so far. (Fuck the CDC and fuck the Monterey County Board of Supervisors. Both utterly useless. - JS)

 

[z0mb0]

It’s about the size of a Canadian dollar or I guess a silver dollar for US folks. When I press it the color stays the same. It’s fucked. cause it’s so itchy but the skin is so hard I can’t even scratch it effectively.

well that does sound like it, but im pretty sure it being itchy is usually a sign its somthing else. that said it fits most other signs of it and the smaller the cluster the smaller the size of the bleed.

 

[Derka Derka]

Oh that's grand. Have saved it below. So - no questions unless you've been granted accreditation. I wonder who controls accreditation and with what criteria.

You need to follow the governments messaging with little dissent.
Most media outfits in Kiwiland are liberal/progressive leaning.

Jacinda used to be regularly interviewed by a conservative talkshow host, but abruptly cancelled as he was starting to ask tough questions about handling of Covid.
A similar thing happened with the deputy PM a short time before.

 

[Lichen Bark]

It’s about the size of a Canadian dollar or I guess a silver dollar for US folks. When I press it the color stays the same. It’s fucked. cause it’s so itchy but the skin is so hard I can’t even scratch it effectively.

Maybe a bedbug got you? Or perhaps a spider? Don't go full doomer. Those types of bites can take a while to heal fully.

 

[clusterfuckk]

Maybe a bedbug got you? Or perhaps a spider? Don't go full doomer. Those types of bites can take a while to heal fully.

Bed bug is highly unlikely but spider I can see for sure. We have tons of them in my neck of the woods. I only relate it to the vaccine cause it started a couple days after the second dose. Of course coincidence is possible.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Meanwhile, all other metrics also indicate that, while there's been a slight uptick in cases lately, the county's epidemic is at a low level, with county health reporting only 11 Covid-positive patients among the county's 4 hospitals (there were more than 200 in early January), along with a 7-day test positivity rate in the county of 2.4 percent. Also, most zip codes in the county are reporting very low levels of new infections (see our Cases and Rates by Zip Code chart below).

Why does the CDC say we have much higher levels of new infections than other sources? And why did the county suddenly decide to make imposition of a new mask mandate dependent on CDC data, when it's always relied on local data before? We have tried to get answers to these questions, but no luck so far. (Fuck the CDC and fuck the Monterey County Board of Supervisors. Both utterly useless. - JS)

I wonder if some folks at the CDC might have falsified some datas?

 

[The Nothingness]

Well this is in Seattle so it is no surprise how much of a beta cuck he is.

After battling COVID-19 for almost a month and being released from Harborview Medical Center in Seattle, Richard Soliz returned to the hospital in late October. But it was not for medical treatment — it was to apologize.

Soliz, a graphic artist who had not received a COVID-19 vaccine, spent 28 days on a ventilator and heart monitor at the hospital in late August and much of September.

"I am certain that there is truth to this virus, and not being vaccinated leaves you vulnerable to the extent of possibly really taking a person's life," Soliz said. "I personally know that, because I was not vaccinated. I did not act, I wasn't certain, and I nearly lost my life."

Soliz told CNN that he struggled to breathe and felt as though he could have died at any moment. But he wanted to say sorry to those who cared for him, thanking everyone he saw at the facility who played a role in saving his life.

"I was literally on my deathbed and hanging from a string, and [doctors and nurses] tended to me as perfect strangers," Soliz said. He added, when "you're in a position that I was in, it resonates differently, and I just had to say something."

He said that he was embarrassed to say that he was unvaccinated when asked by hospital staff. Few patients in the ICU, though, say that they are, hospital officials said.

According to Dr. James Town, a pulmonologist and director of the medical ICU at Harborview, about 99 out of 100 patients admitted to Harborview for COVID-19 had not been vaccinated when Soliz was admitted.

Soliz said that he did not know anybody who had gotten sick from COVID-19 until he got a fever and struggled to breathe. He noted that he was hesitant to get the vaccine in part because of misinformation on social media, where he read about claims of microchipping, harmful side effects and questions concerning government approval of vaccines.
"It was just not knowing, and what I did know was confusing and contradictory, so when a person is not totally convinced of something and doesn't have the proper information to determine a yay or nay, perhaps they'll do what I did and do nothing," Soliz said.

But doctors and nurses were not quick to judge or blame him.

According to the pulmonologist, very few COVID-19 patients have returned to thank the medical personnel who helped them. He noticed that if they did, it was much more common for those who spent time in the trauma and brain injury units.

Soliz recently spoke with CNN affiliate KOMO about his experience. The station showed him making the rounds to speak with staff.

"Oh, wow, you look great," nurse Kimmy Siebens told him. "To see you alive is just amazing. You look so great."

"We do put so much of our own heart into the care and worry," Siebens said. "We never really get to see people get that much better. And so it's amazing. It makes it feel like it's definitely all worth it, you know?"

Town, who cared for Soliz during his four-week stay at the hospital, told CNN that Soliz was "so openly warm, grateful and appreciative" for the care he received.

"I knew that the spirits in our hospital and our unit had been down because of how hard things have been lately and difficulty with staffing shortages and things like that," Town said. "I just felt like that was the kind of message that our staff needed to hear that people really did appreciate them."

On one hand, Town acknowledged that it's easy to lose compassion for people who chose not to be vaccinated, since "despite your hard work, the most vocal people are still telling you that you're trying to harm them and their families." On the other hand, Town found hope in people like Soliz, who not only showed appreciation for medical staff, but also used his voice to convince others to get vaccinated.
"I think we often feel like we're here to take care of whomever whenever, and everyone can make bad decisions and everyone still deserves a chance," Town said.

Soliz is now fully vaccinated, but his lungs are scarred, and he gets winded easily after any little bit of activity, he said. He still has some cloudiness in his thoughts and memory, but doctors told him that in six months he could start seeing significant healing in his lungs.

But Soliz encourages people to get the vaccine, not just because of what he went through. He admitted that he was a "tremendous burden" on medical staff, many of whom work 12-hour shifts and have received little time off.

"That's the most scariest and vulnerable feeling that I've ever had in my whole life...." Soliz told CNN. "I don't want that to happen to anybody."

 

[Art Kassul]

I wonder if some folks at the CDC might have falsified some datas?

As if the CDC would sink to such politcal shenanigans.

A Review and Autopsy of Two COVID Immunity Studies ⋆ Brownstone Institute

I have never before seen such a large discrepancy between immunity studies that are supposed to answer the same question.

brownstone.org

A Review and Autopsy of Two COVID Immunity Studies​

How effective is immunity after Covid recovery relative to vaccination? An Israeli study by Gazit et al. found that the vaccinated have a 27 times higher risk of symptomatic infection than the Covid recovered. At the same time, the vaccinated were nine times more likely to be hospitalized for Covid. In contrast, a CDC study by Bozio et al. claims that the Covid recovered are five times more likely to be hospitalized for Covid than the vaccinated. Both studies cannot be right.

I have worked on vaccine epidemiology since I joined the Harvard faculty almost two decades ago as a biostatistician. I have never before seen such a large discrepancy between studies that are supposed to answer the same question. In this article, I carefully dissect both studies, describe how the analyses differ, and explain why the Israeli study is more reliable.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

We’re halfway there.

Whoa, livin' on a prayer!

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Whoa, livin' on a prayer!

Take my hand and we’ll make it, I swear.

 

[talk sh1t]

This is so insane. Even their own publicly published models show that they need to fully vaccinate 1,000,000 children (2,000,000 jabs) to theoretically prevent a single death in the 5 - 11 age group all while causing over 100 Myocarditis cases at a minimum. Assuming a push for universal vaccination of children in this group, they would talking about administering up to 56 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine to prevent up to 28 COVID deaths and instead cause a minimum of 2,800 cases of Myocarditis. It's just madness.

https://www.fda.gov/media/153447/download (pages 32 ~ 34)

I cannot comprehend how this information is out there, from the FDA themselves, and yet so much of the country is still gung ho about injecting kids with this shit.

Even a mainstream outlet like CNBC reported on it as such:

Covid vaccines for kids are coming soon — some families are counting the minutes

The FDA authorized the doses for kids 5 to 11 on Friday, and a CDC panel is expected to issue a recommendation on the doses Tuesday.

www.cnbc.com

Most would recover?! Most! So they're saying that at least one will not recover, kind of cancelling out that COVID death they may have prevented.

From the methods of the model (page 33):

The proportions of vaccine-attributable myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations and ICU admissions are obtained from Vaccine Safety Datalink (12-17 year-old group49). Some of these hospitalizations and ICU admissions may be precautionary and therefore not clinically equivalent to COVID-19 hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

"Some", not clear how many. Reminds me of how it turned out that about 45% of hospitalizations for COVID in the U.S. in 2020 weren't actually caused by COVID, they were just hospitalized people who tested positive at admission.

It would be good to know what co-morbidities may cause children to be hospitalized when they get COVID, and what co-morbidities may cause children to develop myocarditis from the vaccine. Are they the same?

Also, the way they compare non-hospitalized COVID cases with non-hospitalized myocarditis is a bit disingenuous. In this way, you immediately think "40'000 less flu cases* at the cost of a mere hundred 'mild' myocarditis cases". Is "mild" myocarditis to be taken that lightly for a kid?

*which means 40'000 less COVID spreaders, so 40'000 less kids that may spread it to an at-risk person who should already be vaccinated but is still at risk because the vaccines don't fully work, or actually they do so it's not a big deal if they get it from a kid, so those 40'000 mild COVID spreaders aren't really a danger to anyone? I'm not sure anymore.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Sorry if someone else already posted it but the Gateway Pundit posted a clip from Wion Gravitas who exposed Pzifer for bullying and blackmail.

EXPLOSIVE REVELATION: Indian Television Exposes How Pfizer Bullies and Blackmails Countries for COVID Shots - "Desperate Countries force to Make Humiliating Concessions" (VIDEO)

WION Gravitas, a popular prime-time show in India that brings viewers news and discussions on concurrent issues and across the globe, exposed in a recent episode how Pfizer bullies and blackmails countries for shots and took a hard line in the push for profit. A non-profit organization called...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

EXPLOSIVE REVELATION: Indian Television Exposes How Pfizer Bullies and Blackmails Countries for COVID Shots – “Desperate Countries force to Make Humiliating Concessions” (VIDEO)​

By Jim Hoft
Published November 1, 2021 at 2:36pm


WION Gravitas, a popular prime-time show in India that brings viewers news and discussions on concurrent issues and across the globe, exposed in a recent episode how Pfizer bullies and blackmails countries for shots and took a hard line in the push for profit.

A non-profit organization called Public Citizen obtained a confidential unredacted Pfizer contract of some of its negotiations. The contracts show how Pfizer can stop countries from speaking about its contracts, block vaccine donations, unilaterally change delivery schedules and demand public assets as collateral.

“The contracts offer a rare glimpse into the power one pharmaceutical corporation has gained to silence governments, throttle supply, shift risk and maximize profits in the worst public health crisis in a century,” Public Citizen reported.

The table below is an example of the countries where Pfizer has contracts.

Gravitas’ anchor, Palki Sharma Upadhyay said that desperate countries are being forced to make humiliating concessions to Pfizer. They found out some serious revelations. Below are the 6 key points on the Pfizer contracts that were revealed.

1. Pfizer Reserves the Right to Silence Governments – Pfizer is silencing the governments through its contracts. It has forced countries not to talk about the deals they strike for shots.
2. Pfizer Controls Distribution of Shots – Pfizer controls the donations of the shots, not the country that buys them. Pfizer will decide where the shots go.
3. Pfizer Secured an “IP Waiver” for Itself – If Pfizer is accused of intellectual property theft, governments will pay not the company.
4. Private Arbitrators, not Public Courts, Decide Disputes in Secret – If there are disputes, private arbitrators and not public courts will decide on them
5. Pfizer Can Go After State Assets – Pfizer can go after state assets to secure its compensation.
6. Pfizer Calls the Shots on Key Decisions – Pfizer decides delivery timeline and more.

You can read the in-depth analysis on each bullet on the Public Citizen website or download the full report here.

The staff of Gateway Pundit mirrored Wion Gravitas' video on their Rumble account.

Primetime Show in India Exposes How Pfizer Bullies and Blackmails Countries for Shots

Primetime Show in India Exposes How Pfizer Bullies and Blackmails Countries for Shots

rumble.com

 

[Art Kassul]

CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"

CDC: Problematic Vaccine? No, Problematic Definition of Vaccine.

technofog.substack.com

CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"​

CDC emails we obtained via the Freedom of Information Act reveal CDC concerns with how the COVID-19 vaccines didn’t match the CDC’s own definition of “vaccine”/“vaccination”. It was the CDC’s Ministry of Truth hard at work in the face of legitimate public questions.

In one August 2021 e-mail, a CDC employee cited to complaints that “Right-wing covid-19 deniers are using your ‘vaccine’ definition to argue that mRNA vaccines are not vaccines…”

When is a vaccine not a vaccine?

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"

CDC: Problematic Vaccine? No, Problematic Definition of Vaccine.

technofog.substack.com

CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"​

When is a vaccine not a vaccine?

It's not a vaccine, at best it's a very short acting prophylactic treatment.

 

[jje100010001]

It's not a vaccine, at best it's a very short acting prophylactic treatment.

Not even that anymore, it's now purely therapeutic since it only reduces visible symptoms.

 

[Derka Derka]

"Some", not clear how many. Reminds me of how it turned out that about 45% of hospitalizations for COVID in the U.S. in 2020 weren't actually caused by COVID, they were just hospitalized people who tested positive at admission.

I'm not surprised bout this, but missed this nugget a couple months ago ...

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[GAY Ted Wheeler]

I'm just refusing to even go into those places,

Spoiler: but here goes

but based on what I USED to spend on restaurants and travel and frippery, I'd say French businesses not named Amazon France have lost about 10K euros from my family since the passports were rolled out and I simultaneously decided I was DONE with the fucking masks, and that's gonna continue even after these rules end because I have no desire to do business with collabos after this is over

my new thing is to go into places demanding masks and seeing how long it takes for them to kick me out. Since I also usually open carry a 357 Desert Eagle it doesn’t take long for them to notice me. Sometimes they don’t bother me and swallow their pride and other times they’ve ditched the mask theatre in solidarity. Doctors offices are a lost cause for the mask theatre like the airports but they’re, unfortunately, non-negotiable for me.

Couple of weeks ago went to Charlottesville and spent about $3K at the Mens Wear store on the Mall there when the owner ditched his mask when I started trying on jackets. Will probably head back after the new year and drop another $3K there on spring wear. Owner gives no fucks. Think they have a town wide indoor mask mandate but I didn’t bother with it and he didn’t bother me or my wife about it. Couple of places asked me to leave (record store I would have easily dropped $500 at) and a few the employees gave me dirty looks but took my money. Wife didn’t even bother with the highly regarded yarn store even though she routine drops $1K when she finds material she likes.

 

[helloAhole$]

I recently "enjoyed" a meeting was hoping this may be a better update (informative). Figured I would just say hi to you all.

Spoiler: First off he ABC agency.

Okay when as an umbrella agency, please do not state the only underling agency getting to partake is leading the way. If we lead the way why not try and present safe and effective when others are failing greater than us. Also, if you want to present a Q&A please turn those on at least some of us would enjoy ourselves reading questions from those in the process of being fired or facing a counselling. You need to avoid use position of authority that is what brings up the most questions, sources are best and preferable peer reviewed. I could go on, but I am sure you will eventually give me a survey that never will get read as before. Thanks.

Spoiler: Hello Kiwis

Yeah, I was hoping for an informative meeting. It was just a random going over covid numbers citing CDC no other studies. Saying safe and effective a lot talking to people as tards with BS degrees. I am sure there was a point where a miss spoken part consisted of confirming moving forwards boosters will be part if we continue along this dumb path. Also for addressing the skeptical they brought up some under 65 desperate to get a booster scared, among other half of the Q/A being people scared of your (as in you) lack of jab.

If I get fired at least let me enjoy the 2 weeks of brain washing, I want some fun in my life. Thanks ABC man.

 

[Grannys Cookiez]

In one August 2021 e-mail, a CDC employee cited to complaints that “Right-wing covid-19 deniers are using your ‘vaccine’ definition to argue that mRNA vaccines are not vaccines…”

Just the fact that this kind of political stereotyping at FEDERAL AGENCY is extremely inappropriate and unprofessional. It's disingenuous to say that anyone who is skeptical of the vaccines are right-wing and COVID deniers.

I consider this a good confirmation of how political all of this really is...it's no longer a conspiracy.

 

[Kona_A9]

Just the fact that this kind of political stereotyping at FEDERAL AGENCY is extremely inappropriate and unprofessional. It's disingenuous to say that anyone who is skeptical of the vaccines are right-wing and COVID deniers.

I consider this a good confirmation of how political all of this really is...it's no longer a conspiracy.

It's sad and crazy how normalized it is for employees of these agencies to use "right-wing" as if it is a synonym for "white supremacist" or "Nazi" and to imply that their positions deserve to be dismissed outright. Really shows just how far Leftist infiltration has in the institutions has progressed.