Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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CRT gained salience because Virginia parents were already mad at schools for lockdowns, mask/vaccine mandates, and a general disinterest in hearing from parents about anything. The fact that Youngkin could add porn, CRT, and rapes to the pile of coverups broke the chance of them going Dem permanently.
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So bad that Posobiec is throwing around that Pelosi is retiring in 2022 to avoid being associated with it.
I'm skeptical, but we shall see.
Glenn Youngkin was elected solely to pardon Chris, so that he may come back 3
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So NJ has stopped counting the votes?
All "Fortify" jokes aside, they know this looks super weird, right? I mean when the race is this close, why on Earth would they stop counting? Shouldn't the urgency be there to continue counting to make sure there is a winner in an unexpectedly tight race?
All "Fortify" jokes aside, they know this looks super weird, right? I mean when the race is this close, why on Earth would they stop counting? Shouldn't the urgency be there to continue counting to make sure there is a winner in an unexpectedly tight race?
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NJ is blue enough they don't care if the fortifying is super blatant, especially after they lost VA I imagine
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Pelosi got burnt HARD in the past when she made Anthony Weiner her heir and he imploded into various sex scandals that killed his career.
And by the time she found someone who she could trust to run things smoothly when she left, the Justice Democrats decided to be complete and total cunts and explicitly destroyed the guy's political career by way of finding/running AOC to run against him and steal his seat. Which was done to basically destroy Nancy's escape hatch and force her to go full progressive (and is why Nancy DESPISES AOC and the squad in general) as she only got the speaker job in 2016 because she promised to step down in 2018.
Right now she's basically in power as speaker solely because she is the only thing keeping the Progressives from fucking EVERYTHING up and creating carnage in the House. Her ability to tolerate AOC is hinged entirely on the fact that Nancy's rivals (most notably Maxine Waters) are already plotting to take the Speakership the second Pelosi retires, and that AOC's fellow antisemite squadmates are 100% team Maxine whereas AOC knows damn well that if Nancy's on the way out the door, she'll make damn sure that AOC dies screaming in flames and her career destroyed as payback for her part in the Justice Democrats fucking Nancy's heir over and has to play nice-nice and try and keep Maxine and her ilk and the other antisemite squadsters under control to Nancy's liking.
If Nancy is indeed leaving, then hell will break out in the House even if the Democrats keep it, because you are going to have full on civil war over the speakership and the House Dems in general.
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I mentioned this earlier, but NY and NJ aren't as hard locks as the establishment likes to pretend. You can bet that after Virginia was this close, they're going to throw every single dirty trick in their arsenal at keeping the strongholds (especially NYC) theirs, but with how bad the local government's fucked up the last few years, the situation is approaching a very similar arc to what happened to unfuck NYC in the 80s and 90s - in that they've actually fucked things up sufficiently that even the hardcore of the base thinks they're doing a shit job. That there's been continual protests in NYC for about 2 months with no signs of slowing down is testament to this.
With the fact that hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers have fled NYC, they've also lost a bit of the numerical power they ultimately rely on, and with the Dems in disarray at a macro level, the Progressives are going to throw behind their own, not establishment candidates, further fragmenting matters.
It is still unlikely that these states will squirm out of this; the establishment will throw absolutely everything at maintaining their powerbase. Losing NY and/or NJ would be absolutely taken as a sign of the apocalypse for them, and would be an unmistakable sign that the end times are nigh (for them).
But for now, this has given people something even bigger: Hope.
With the fact that hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers have fled NYC, they've also lost a bit of the numerical power they ultimately rely on, and with the Dems in disarray at a macro level, the Progressives are going to throw behind their own, not establishment candidates, further fragmenting matters.
It is still unlikely that these states will squirm out of this; the establishment will throw absolutely everything at maintaining their powerbase. Losing NY and/or NJ would be absolutely taken as a sign of the apocalypse for them, and would be an unmistakable sign that the end times are nigh (for them).
But for now, this has given people something even bigger: Hope.
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A red wave of 1994 proportions possibly, when the Republicans took the House for the first time since 1948 and defeated both the sitting Speaker of the House and Majority Leader of the Senate, taking control of both houses.
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It's too soon to tell.
The political machine, left or right (but mostly left; the right seems so riddled with managerial incompetence that it beggars belief), works in Byzantine ways. It may be that certain power brokers were curious if the water temperature could be turned up a few degrees more, and decided to use M. as a bellwether to determine that. Push the troon agenda. Push the anti-parent, your-kids-are-ours agenda. Push the CRT agenda...ah, didn't work? Lost VA? Okay, we know what not to do...also we know what to do to better rig vote counts now that a small percentage of right-leaning types have sussed us.
So I would assume they'd adjust after this rebuke, and the mid-terms will probably still shift but MUCH less tectonically than, say, 1994. They'll shore up a few key areas. It will be interesting to see the blood on the dancefloor, as Pelosi will be gone. The Republicans will be knives-out for her spot, but the ultra-leftists, the Khmer-Rougeists in the Democrat party (the lightbulb head, the donkey face, the muzzie, and their fuccboi) will all push hard for another Prog to take her spot...but there's still enough Establishment dems who've seen through a glass, darkly what pushing the Little Red Book to middle America gets you, that they'll fight against that.
The real question is, can they lay aside the internecine bloodletting long enough to get a field of electable Dems in place, and make sure another Dem can be anointed to take over the Wicked Witch of the West's seat? The thing that conservatives, right-leaning types, and hard-R republicans have to do is do not take the win in VA and NJ lying down. Don't go "Phew, the Republic is saved because one governor in a state who lets his board of education sacrifice children to violent troons got un-elected! New Jersey is tinged slightly pink!" and be happy about it. They've got to stay focused, and recognize that in their own states, there are equally awful governors and representatives and senators. Go clam-digging and find out which one of these people, from the head of the Sanitation department for your subdivision all the way up to your State Senator, did they support this lunacy. Have they too been preaching CRT. Have they too been pushing troon "equality". That's where the focus should be.
If those answers are "no, the dems can't stop crab-bucketing each other" and "yes, we'll remember to stay focused" then YES...the midterms will mean what you think they mean.
Because otherwise it's just another 2.5 years of a seriously clogged toilet and no plunger.
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Yes they stopped for the night.
Jack and Murphy are on the edge of a knife, but if the rest of the votes are mail-in, which are usually Dem leaning, its unfortunately looking bad here for the Gabagool.
It's also retarded that the GOP didn't have fucking good pollsters to show him within striking distance to actually give him some fucking money to win. It shows incompetence at a huge level.
Still, winning a Biden+20 state is a hell of a task and I thank the son of a bitch for fighting it out like this and giving us a show after Virginia was done.
GG Jack.
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It's been brought up already, but one of the more critical parts of tonight is the Dem's messaging and strategy changes going forward. CNN for example has been surprisingly transparent on what the Dems have done wrong: emulating pre-Tea Party Republicans in telling moderates and their finicky voters to shut up and listen to their betters, ignoring issues central to the average person (e.g. inflation), and laser focusing on things few actually base their lives around - i.e. Trump, social justice.
They recognize change is needed, but it's hilarious how hard they're resisting it. Doubling down is going to be real, they don't want to let go of Orange Man Bad, they have nothing of congressional substance to run on, and their coalition is about to eat itself alive. Biden in particular is screwed because, as one of CNN's pundits mentioned, he's vocally backed a lot of progressive policy points and tonight just stopped them dead in their tracks. Those rumours of resignation or 25th-ing are going to significantly increase from here on out.
Personally I suspect at minimum the pandemic and vaccine mandates are going to be quietly walked back over the next few months and focus will turn onto boosting economic stats. People are now verified fed up and nothing short of a complete economic 180 will help stem the bleeding.
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They recognize change is needed, but it's hilarious how hard they're resisting it. Doubling down is going to be real, they don't want to let go of Orange Man Bad, they have nothing of congressional substance to run on, and their coalition is about to eat itself alive. Biden in particular is screwed because, as one of CNN's pundits mentioned, he's vocally backed a lot of progressive policy points and tonight just stopped them dead in their tracks. Those rumours of resignation or 25th-ing are going to significantly increase from here on out.
Personally I suspect at minimum the pandemic and vaccine mandates are going to be quietly walked back over the next few months and focus will turn onto boosting economic stats. People are now verified fed up and nothing short of a complete economic 180 will help stem the bleeding.
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Gutfield's show basically uses the format from the old Politically Incorrect/Tough Crowd With Collin Quinn which is to say it's your standard panel show with an extra thirty minutes to create the appearance of a friends simulator type deal.
If you remember Tough Crowd (which had a stable cast of characters, whereas Maher's PI had a different cast every night with his few regulars like Anne Coulter showing up randomly), that is the audience Gutfield is going for. Collin Quinn's show was a big hit when it ran on CC after the Daily Show and nothing ever came along to fill the void it left when CC killed Tough Crowd and replaced it with Colbert's ego-centric jerk-off session of a show. Which is the audience Gutfield is going for and why it has been a hit in terms of hitting that nostalgia bullseye of when you had late night friend simulator stuff with people who weren't bought and paid for DNC whores.
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But how willing are Establishment Dems are willing to fight the Progs? Since they have no real mandate, they're the third party that has to choose who to lose to. Much like the Whigs before them, being this kind of moderate only results in mixed messaging.
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On top of that: this is not a loss the Dems can blame on MUH VOTER SUPRESHUN, since they have had run of the state government. Though I'm sure they'll try. Maybe they'll blame the filibuster for not passing HR1?
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I think that's a fair question, and the answer depends on how far the Overton Window has moved to the left, what the Dems consider establishment, and what they consider Progs. There's people in Congress, mainly Democrats, who were in congress when I was still in college - let that sink in! I'm no spring chicken, lemme tell you. But that field is thinning, rapidly. What's come in to replace that, has waxed and waned on how far or near left they are. But to get to the crux of your question, if the Establishment Dems are more like the Progs, the answer is "not very". The thing is, the SKWAD and other Prog dems are so...utterly alien, I mean, this is not a "Hey, $.02 sales tax to make sure kids have hot lunches at school" crowd this is a "Yes I'm a communist, lol that's not a threat to anyone!" crowd. Which scares the living shit out of me. I mean, goddamn, the philosophy these people push is something that even the older folks in Congress they work next to fought to stop from ever happening in the US! So I think if there's enough Establishment Dems (more like Manchin, less like Butt-edge-edge) to fight like hell to stave off the Long March through the House, then yeah.
If there's not, then our government will soon be at war with itself and at war for the survival of our country: Communists and Socialists vs. people who want freedom.
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They don't have the time to go full in on it, but they could try and recreate some form/variation of the Howard Dean 50 state strategy, with the DNC recruiting blue dogs and focusing hard on shoring up the House by going after Red strongholds with blue dog DINOs and basically leave the progressives to their own devices to get reelected.
The Senate is a loss at this point but keeping the House in DNC control is critical because of the investigation powers and the impeachment powers absolutely HAVE TO stay in DNC control to protect Biden. And a wave of blue dogs would give the DNC some breathing room and mitigate the bloodletting waiting for them in 2022
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Also can't call it voter suppression when it was record turnout for both sides.
They are going with the narrative that the GOP "fearmongered" their way in, which is equivalent to suppression. Never mind that Ds were running around telling people the GOP were gonna take their uteri and Toni Morrisons if they got elected.
The GOP got handed some Dem scandals that deserved to be aired publicly, but Youngkin still framed it with a positive message: "We need parental involvement, and we need the average Virginian's involvement in government. We promise to listen." Boom. The tone was a complete contrast to the Dems panicking.
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Maybe accelerationism in small measure isn't a huge meme after all. The Dems might've 'won' 2020 but they're absolutely ripping themselves apart in the wake of that victory.
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Its almost like all they planned for was beating Trump and then pulled a "I didn't think we'd get this far" and cocked up every step of the way after 2020.
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As been said multiple times, 2020 is one hell of a poisoned chalice that I sometimes wonder if it's just Trump getting extremely lucky, or the 78D chess thing is actually true.
Regardless, Orange Man gets to take credit. Again. (Slow Joe gets to hold the bag for the vaccines, despite Cheeto Hitler being the one who first pushed for it.)
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