Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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I'm starting to see articles (probably here) about how the future of the Democrat Party lies away from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. I don't know that Joe Biden is going to be capable of pulling it together well enough to mount a campaign in 2024 (I doubt it.... I don't think he could've handled the rigors of a campaign in 2020 if 2020 had been a normal year). But what does that even look like?
If Joe Biden drops out, who's the heir apparent if not Kamala? Beto? Because I can't think of anyone more palatable (and as a Texan, Beto ain't all that palatable).
I've been in situations where things go catastrophically wrong and you can't chart a path forward because there's too much dust in the air... but how do they recover from this (or more accurately, how do they try to recover from this)? It's likely no major legislation will pass between now and 2022 (and it's not by the Republican's hands either... they couldn't get their own party onboard before this and I've got a feeling that those Dems in purple districts that did support him are going to run far away from Biden's agenda now). 2022 is a year away and they have nothing to run on.
Pelosi is likely to duck out because she doesn't want to end her career as the minority leader. Who takes the reigns then? Maxine Waters? Someone from the squad?
Then when 2024 rolls around and neither Joe or Kamala is on the ticket, who steps up? Who would want to? They have to come out as a relative unknown and then run on Biden's record? If things keep going the way they are, that record is radioactive. It's safe to assume you're not getting their A-Team.
Afghanistan, even though it isn't discussed in the news anymore, was the moment Joe's credibility disintegrated and that damaged the whole party. Last night was the first rumbles of the Earthquake that's going to rip the Democrats apart. I don't see how they play this. They just got the reigns back and they're coming apart less than a year into it.
There are people in this thread far more attuned to the way politics work, but I think this is about to be a disaster for them.
If Joe Biden drops out, who's the heir apparent if not Kamala? Beto? Because I can't think of anyone more palatable (and as a Texan, Beto ain't all that palatable).
I've been in situations where things go catastrophically wrong and you can't chart a path forward because there's too much dust in the air... but how do they recover from this (or more accurately, how do they try to recover from this)? It's likely no major legislation will pass between now and 2022 (and it's not by the Republican's hands either... they couldn't get their own party onboard before this and I've got a feeling that those Dems in purple districts that did support him are going to run far away from Biden's agenda now). 2022 is a year away and they have nothing to run on.
Pelosi is likely to duck out because she doesn't want to end her career as the minority leader. Who takes the reigns then? Maxine Waters? Someone from the squad?
Then when 2024 rolls around and neither Joe or Kamala is on the ticket, who steps up? Who would want to? They have to come out as a relative unknown and then run on Biden's record? If things keep going the way they are, that record is radioactive. It's safe to assume you're not getting their A-Team.
Afghanistan, even though it isn't discussed in the news anymore, was the moment Joe's credibility disintegrated and that damaged the whole party. Last night was the first rumbles of the Earthquake that's going to rip the Democrats apart. I don't see how they play this. They just got the reigns back and they're coming apart less than a year into it.
There are people in this thread far more attuned to the way politics work, but I think this is about to be a disaster for them.
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Thanks for the information, I figured something like this was the case.
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No, you catch onto the gist. I have mentioned this before so let me say it again. Ambition is very much not allowed in the Democrat Party. Anyone who had it when this policy was enacted was left mostly safe, but even then many got purged. And any new members were vetted for a lack of ambition. The result is simple, there is a massive gap of leadership. Nobody to replace the current titans in the Democrat party.
The Republican style of leadership lends itself to the older members coming forward, but also makes an orderly line of succession. There are plenty who could rise to the task. But none for the Democrats, nobody is left as the old Guard dies, leaves, or enters irrelevancy.
This is why everything was on such a strict timetable, why Trump getting elected caused so many problems. Bills are due, and an increasingly short amount of time is left to pay them, and nobody will take up the torch once the current guard dies.
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Gabagool Man is not a Trump guy.
He's a neo-con. NJ is not ready (or willing) to vote in a Trump-adjacent candidate.
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It wouldn’t be Beto. He’d have lost too many times, (remember that he’s already lost his Senate bid plus he’s going to lose his bid for TX Gov next year. It would be Bootyjudge, maybe Castro, who knows? The problem is that there’s no one candidate that can satisfy all the warring factions of the Dems. Beto is a cishet privileged white male with a culturally appropriated nickname. Castro is Establishment all the way. Bootyjudge has the faggot angle going for him, but he’s also Establishment now. Who isn’t? AOC? How’s that Presidential campaign going to work.
They’re fucked. They won’t admit it, won’t back down an inch to try to and ward off what’s coming or at least lessen the blow. They’re Hitler in the Bunker, praying for a miracle that’s never going to come while the Russians inch closer and closer to the door.
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I wonder what based donut guy is thinking right now. (For that matter, his opponent). I cannot imagine being so hated that people would literally spite vote some truck driver who spent almost nothing on his campaign and half on it on donuts.
He should celebrate with more donuts. It worked out for him.
He should celebrate with more donuts. It worked out for him.
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I can tell you exactly what he’s thinking.
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If he’d been Black I’d have chosen The Jeffersons theme song but he’s a Cracker so Beverly Hillbillies fits
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He should make a caramel donut with cream filling and the face of Trump on it,made with icing. Call it The Winner.
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The one thing I do think the democrats did was make a back up plan. All they have to do is make a secondary party of sorts play the "pseudo centrist" game of blaming both parties and propose the new party (mainly those who are leftwing faithful) and try again. It sounds silly, but I could see it pulling the wool over most normies eyes who are getting tired of politics in general and blame both the left (justifiably) ad the right (ignorantly) for the whole countries ills over time. Now the only question I have is if they were this smart to use the back up options they have, and I hope not because I could see such an attempt actually bearing fruit and fooling quite a few people. "They're not the democrats, they're the X's and both right wing and left wing are responsible for this!" being shouted by the masses as it comes to a head. --- > It's also no coincidence this became a common "centrist" talking point for a few years now...
The only other possibility I see for the left is them pushing harder to conceal some brainwashing of the youth to set up a down the line plan that they hope provides an opportunity to stand back up from this failure and a second chance/grace possibly. They might push harder even if it exposes them hoping to set up a child-chain to win 20-30 years down the road if they're successful enough. This isn't very likely though and can easily fail if a few things go wrong.
All in all it should be a disaster for them, but if the republicans get too complacent it still provides means of opportunity for the left, and that's where I think many fear. It's not a guarantee but a potential outcome if the right wing doesn't shape its ass up and quash any potential silver linings for them. They themselves have quite a few issues to attempt such a thing and for the most part they should be foiled, but I won't count my chickens before they hatch.
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Let me run this by you. We agree on everything you've said... however, they have another problem. Those Democrats that are in contested districts are unlikely to survive 2022 and 2024. Biden's administration is a sinking ship and it's going to suck down anybody who's not in a pure blue district. That's going to cause a lot of Democrats that might be palatable to the independents to lose their seats.
Nancy Pelosi has been a mainstay in her party's leadership since I was old enough to legally buy a beer (and that's been a couple decades). However, she's in a safe district and while she can manage the Democrats in the House reasonably well, she could never run for National Office because she's disliked even by moderate Democrats. If I'm not mistaken, what's coming is going to take a bench that is already not very deep and make it even shallower. If this is the bloodbath that I think it's going to be, all that's going to be left are the crazies.
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They can’t control the Party they have now, what makes you think they’d be able to control the new one?
Another question would be, which Dems get to run the new Party? The Establishmentarians? The Progressives? The “Business Dems”? It can’t be some combination of these because they all hate each other and their split is the whole reason the Dems are imploding right now, and I can’t imagine that any of them would want to be left behind in the dying Dem Party as one of the other factions sailed off into the sunset at the helm of the new Party
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The last few pages of this thread make me think that you may be right, I may be crazy. But I just might be the lunatic you’re looking for. Turn out the lights, don’t try to save me. You maybe wrong for all I know, but you may be right.
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Oh yes, everything you said here is likely correct. But they brought that one on themselves. It's not that moderates don't exist in the congressional Dems, but they have been whipped into line so thoroughly that they will get slaughtered come 2022, as the Virginia race shows.
Alright Billy.
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