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Oh good lord where does one even start?

The article:

"YouTube star Abigail Thorn has opened up about her decision to come out as trans, revealing that she expected to be dead by 30 if she had to keep pretending otherwise.
Thorn, 27, is a veteran YouTuber and creator of the long-running channel Philosophy Tube, which has more than 900,000 subscribers and 50 million views.

She came out publicly as transgender in January, and was immediately catapulted into becoming one of the most high-profile trans women in Britain.

“That’s part of the reason why I decided to keep it to myself for such a long time,” she told the BBC’s LGBT+ correspondent Ben Hunte.
“I deliberately pretended to be a man in quite a few of my videos, I changed my clothes and put on a very deep voice, so I hid, deliberately, for a long time.”

But there came a point where Thorn realised she simply couldn’t keep living much longer if she had to live a lie.

“I remember very clearly waking up one morning years ago and thinking: ‘I can’t do this for much longer. I think maybe I’ll live until I’m 29, maybe not much beyond that. If I have to keep pretending to be a man, I’m gonna die,'” she recalled.

“And now that I’m finally out, all my loved ones, they say to me: ‘You seem so much happier, you’re more relaxed.’ I’m sleeping better, I have nicer dreams now. It’s incredible.

“It’s because I’m a woman,” she added, “and because I don’t have to pretend to be a man anymore.”

When Abigail Thorn came out in both a written and filmed statement she took aim at the climate of transphobia in the UK that’s allowed “pseudoscience and fear-mongering” to stymie trans rights in the nation.

Three months on, the star admitted she was “terrified” that the anti-trans media would spin her coming out into a negative – and this fear impacted her day-to-day life.

Speaking through tears, she recalled an occasion when she felt unable to collect her baby niece from nursery because “I know what the newspapers in this country say about trans people”.

“I was walking to the nursery with my brother to pick her up, and halfway there I suddenly stopped and said to my brother, ‘I can’t go with you, because I know what people think about us,'” she said. “And I had to go, and I couldn’t see my baby niece, and my brother had to tell her: ‘Aunty Abi loves you, but she can’t be here because people might say awful things about her.'”

She’s determined not to hide her trans identity and is leaving all her old videos on the channel so people will always know she’s transgender.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/pagicle/celebs-you-didnt-know-have-an-lgbt-sibling/
But she spoke bluntly about the reality of being trans in the UK, and the rights she’s had to give up in exchange for the freedom to live as her authentic self.

“I don’t have the same rights as everyone else. Literally, the morning that I woke up and started my transition, I lost some of my rights,” Thorn said. “I can’t get married the same way that you can. I can’t get the same healthcare that you can get anymore, because I am trans.

“I would love to stand up and say, ‘It’s wonderful out here, it’s the easiest thing in the world [to be openly trans],'” she continued.
“I do feel a hell of a lot better since I did, not only come out to myself but publicly as well. It’s like gravity has been turned down by ten percent. But I also know how hard it is.”
 
Oh good lord where does one even start?

The article:

"YouTube star Abigail Thorn has opened up about her decision to come out as trans, revealing that she expected to be dead by 30 if she had to keep pretending otherwise.
Thorn, 27, is a veteran YouTuber and creator of the long-running channel Philosophy Tube, which has more than 900,000 subscribers and 50 million views.

She came out publicly as transgender in January, and was immediately catapulted into becoming one of the most high-profile trans women in Britain.

“That’s part of the reason why I decided to keep it to myself for such a long time,” she told the BBC’s LGBT+ correspondent Ben Hunte.
“I deliberately pretended to be a man in quite a few of my videos, I changed my clothes and put on a very deep voice, so I hid, deliberately, for a long time.”

But there came a point where Thorn realised she simply couldn’t keep living much longer if she had to live a lie.

“I remember very clearly waking up one morning years ago and thinking: ‘I can’t do this for much longer. I think maybe I’ll live until I’m 29, maybe not much beyond that. If I have to keep pretending to be a man, I’m gonna die,'” she recalled.

“And now that I’m finally out, all my loved ones, they say to me: ‘You seem so much happier, you’re more relaxed.’ I’m sleeping better, I have nicer dreams now. It’s incredible.

“It’s because I’m a woman,” she added, “and because I don’t have to pretend to be a man anymore.”

When Abigail Thorn came out in both a written and filmed statement she took aim at the climate of transphobia in the UK that’s allowed “pseudoscience and fear-mongering” to stymie trans rights in the nation.

Three months on, the star admitted she was “terrified” that the anti-trans media would spin her coming out into a negative – and this fear impacted her day-to-day life.

Speaking through tears, she recalled an occasion when she felt unable to collect her baby niece from nursery because “I know what the newspapers in this country say about trans people”.

“I was walking to the nursery with my brother to pick her up, and halfway there I suddenly stopped and said to my brother, ‘I can’t go with you, because I know what people think about us,'” she said. “And I had to go, and I couldn’t see my baby niece, and my brother had to tell her: ‘Aunty Abi loves you, but she can’t be here because people might say awful things about her.'”

She’s determined not to hide her trans identity and is leaving all her old videos on the channel so people will always know she’s transgender.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/pagicle/celebs-you-didnt-know-have-an-lgbt-sibling/
But she spoke bluntly about the reality of being trans in the UK, and the rights she’s had to give up in exchange for the freedom to live as her authentic self.

“I don’t have the same rights as everyone else. Literally, the morning that I woke up and started my transition, I lost some of my rights,” Thorn said. “I can’t get married the same way that you can. I can’t get the same healthcare that you can get anymore, because I am trans.

“I would love to stand up and say, ‘It’s wonderful out here, it’s the easiest thing in the world [to be openly trans],'” she continued.
“I do feel a hell of a lot better since I did, not only come out to myself but publicly as well. It’s like gravity has been turned down by ten percent. But I also know how hard it is.”
Isn’t this a blatant rip off of contras repeatedly say she would die young

Like wtf is this about….. dead by 30….. wut

Anyway more fatness ….,

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Also I have a random fan story for u guys brb
 
OFFTOPIC : Just for fun and unrelated to the thread, so....sharing a blast from the past from one interaction with Olly back in Dec, 2015.
My comment was "The root of all evil in current modern societies are collectivism, postmodernism and moral relativism"
Olly's answer :

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Funny enough I have not read Ayn Rand ( yet ) at that time ( I did read both "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" on early 2017 ).
 
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He does this so often. One of his delusional fans pours their heart out, or asks him a sincere, thought-out question, and he responds with some “zinger” (that falls flat) and totally disregards the effort that the questioner went to.
Imagine turning to Redditors to answer your question because the Trans Princess of Terf Island was feeling too sassy to give you a sincere answer for your question on Transphobia:
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Plus bonus Breadtube fans in the comments discussing the awkwardness between Olly and Contrapoints:
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This thread on r/outoftheloop is interesting, bunch of Redditors in the comments talking about the drama between them and people calling Olly a clinical narcissist:
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There's more but I'm not going to screenshot a bunch of comments.
Lastly there was a thread on redscarepod about how Olly gives off weird vibes, we get mentioned for starting the Olly raped Contra theory even though that was /tttt/ and I was here trying to disprove it. 557 upvotes and 426 comments lmao:
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ETA- Forgot to mention but in the redscare thread someone claims Olly cheated on his gf at St. Andrews.
 
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Oh good lord where does one even start?

The article:

"YouTube star Abigail Thorn has opened up about her decision to come out as trans, revealing that she expected to be dead by 30 if she had to keep pretending otherwise.
Thorn, 27, is a veteran YouTuber and creator of the long-running channel Philosophy Tube, which has more than 900,000 subscribers and 50 million views.

She came out publicly as transgender in January, and was immediately catapulted into becoming one of the most high-profile trans women in Britain.

“That’s part of the reason why I decided to keep it to myself for such a long time,” she told the BBC’s LGBT+ correspondent Ben Hunte.
“I deliberately pretended to be a man in quite a few of my videos, I changed my clothes and put on a very deep voice, so I hid, deliberately, for a long time.”

But there came a point where Thorn realised she simply couldn’t keep living much longer if she had to live a lie.

“I remember very clearly waking up one morning years ago and thinking: ‘I can’t do this for much longer. I think maybe I’ll live until I’m 29, maybe not much beyond that. If I have to keep pretending to be a man, I’m gonna die,'” she recalled.

“And now that I’m finally out, all my loved ones, they say to me: ‘You seem so much happier, you’re more relaxed.’ I’m sleeping better, I have nicer dreams now. It’s incredible.

“It’s because I’m a woman,” she added, “and because I don’t have to pretend to be a man anymore.”

When Abigail Thorn came out in both a written and filmed statement she took aim at the climate of transphobia in the UK that’s allowed “pseudoscience and fear-mongering” to stymie trans rights in the nation.

Three months on, the star admitted she was “terrified” that the anti-trans media would spin her coming out into a negative – and this fear impacted her day-to-day life.

Speaking through tears, she recalled an occasion when she felt unable to collect her baby niece from nursery because “I know what the newspapers in this country say about trans people”.

“I was walking to the nursery with my brother to pick her up, and halfway there I suddenly stopped and said to my brother, ‘I can’t go with you, because I know what people think about us,'” she said. “And I had to go, and I couldn’t see my baby niece, and my brother had to tell her: ‘Aunty Abi loves you, but she can’t be here because people might say awful things about her.'”

She’s determined not to hide her trans identity and is leaving all her old videos on the channel so people will always know she’s transgender.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/pagicle/celebs-you-didnt-know-have-an-lgbt-sibling/
But she spoke bluntly about the reality of being trans in the UK, and the rights she’s had to give up in exchange for the freedom to live as her authentic self.

“I don’t have the same rights as everyone else. Literally, the morning that I woke up and started my transition, I lost some of my rights,” Thorn said. “I can’t get married the same way that you can. I can’t get the same healthcare that you can get anymore, because I am trans.

“I would love to stand up and say, ‘It’s wonderful out here, it’s the easiest thing in the world [to be openly trans],'” she continued.
“I do feel a hell of a lot better since I did, not only come out to myself but publicly as well. It’s like gravity has been turned down by ten percent. But I also know how hard it is.”
pass the sick bucket. Plus he really does have a very high opinion of himself. Like no one cares about you olly, most the world doesnt even know who you are and rest just see you as a contra point skinwalker.
 
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How misguided was this? Derp face. Chest hair that appears to be approaching his shoulder. Comically pale, pasty skin. Zero leg hair. Stupid hairstyle. Gross feet. Vaguely feminine pose (go figure). Seriously what was that haircut? How much better he would have looked with a buzz cut or traditional men’s high and tight haircut instead of this faggy borderline mullet. And the facial hair is a mess too.

I don’t mean to bully him for non-troon reasons but it shows how narcissistic and tryhard he’s always been. I’m no beauty, but I wouldn’t present myself visually in such an over the top manner like an asshole. And it’s not like he’s being tongue in cheek or silly. He’s deliberately playing in to his deluded fans’ notion that he’s some kind of sex symbol. Only a narcissist like Oliver could believe that while looking as he does here. Instead of saying, “that’s flattering, but NO WAY!” Leave it to Olly to play right in to it and have zero self awareness.

omg i just noticed this - look at the fat fuck's edematous calf - he's mid twenties why is he so fat and bloated that he has a visible sock line in videos. and WHY does he not see that as a problem? the baseless confidence. mid twenties males should be healthy as shit not water retaining fat fucks. especially if your father is a physician..... his dad is probably so ashamed LOL

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pitting edemaaaaaa lol lol lol lol
unless he wore socks all day and took them off right before filming this what the actual fuck. like he's filming this scantily clad, and therefore hasn't been wearing socks for a bit???? i'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but it's really kinda strange. no excuse

I just realized that Olly making a "comedic" video where he jokes about wanting to fuck the Queen is just him ripping off that Contra video where he joked about wanting to fuck Jordan Peterson because he's such a "daddy" or whatever.
like.... that's so gross.

a 6 foot 2 burly fatty rugby bodied man talking about wanting to fuck a tiny old lady monarch

is very different than a spindly trans lady talking about wanting to fuck a very online, openly trans hating, misogynistic, narcissist, middle aged canadian professor to get under his skin and make him uncomfy to challenge his views without being a harpy, which JP loves to dismiss and fuels him. like this is a role reversal, turning the tables, clever jab.

the queen fucking is just reminiscent of like elder abuse and woman hating. it's not funny to make sex (rape) jokes about elders especially coming from a scary rapey fat fuck. (like maybe another 90 year old at a pub fancying the queen would be endearing and interesting) like it's just aggressive. falls flat. like everything olly does.



okay so anyway

my story lol.

for context - a friend was stuck in another city through covid and recently returned. we were catching up and i told her that in her absence i fell into a rabbithole of fucked up trans youtubers and joined a hate forum to discuss them because the censorship everywhere else was so intense.

she asked me which youtubers because she had a job while she was away and had a dumb young coworker who would coincidentally tell her about youtubers he was obsessed with and his favourites were these progressive lgbtq types. i told her the main one i like to discuss was a moron called philosophy tube and crazily enough she had heard the name and asked if they had transitioned. (yes) recently?!?! (yes, earlier this year).... her coworker came to work shortly after olly's public transition announcement and he told her all about it and said he was really taken aback by the whole thing because there was no prior indication of like..... wanting to be a woman or particularly feminine proclivities. he said that he really looked up to olly as a male role model figure, because he was a sensitive guy who was open about his feelings and cares about causes and stuff... (this is a young gay dude who wasn't accepted by his family for being a queer softie).... and he thought it was so out of left field he wondered if being sensitive and caring as a man meant that maybe you're actually more feminine and started wondering about his own gender identity.....



so basically.... it's not just us. the "fans" see the dissonance too - and they find it so troubling they tell their coworkers that they're torn up about it in an effort to process. because they can't stop thinking about how wrong and weird it seems LOL.

i can't believe i had a real world discussion about olly's transition and that my friend had a previous real world discussion about olly's transition with a gobsmacked and troubled fan
 
Three months on, the star admitted she was “terrified” that the anti-trans media would spin her coming out into a negative – and this fear impacted her day-to-day life.

Speaking through tears, she recalled an occasion when she felt unable to collect her baby niece from nursery because “I know what the newspapers in this country say about trans people”.
Did Ollie even get any mainstream media coverage? As in, actually in a printed newspaper and not just a fluff piece for a website "celeb news" or "LGBT" section? You'd think he was Jeremy Paxman coming out or something.
“I don’t have the same rights as everyone else. Literally, the morning that I woke up and started my transition, I lost some of my rights,” Thorn said. “I can’t get married the same way that you can. I can’t get the same healthcare that you can get anymore, because I am trans.
Assuming he's a transbian he actually has more options for marriage than a cis lesbian. If this is him once again complaining that he'd legally have an "M" next to his name, that only applies for civil partnerships. Marriage certificates don't have them:
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and you can shop around for a registrar that will let your fiancee say "lawful wedded wife" instead of "lawful wedded husband". Or just get a gender recognition certificate, you're not going to be marrying Claire within the next two years anyway. Likewise with the healthcare he can get the exact same healthcare as anyone else in the country, it's just that he wants an additional form of healthcare that has a long waiting list (and he can certainly afford to go private anyway).
 
I just got a video recommended that seemed interesting. And there was this mannish woman... no wait that isn't a woman is it? And then the editing and style. Fuck. It's another troon.

There should be a kiwifarms thread on this, let's make one.... no wait it's already 150 pages, lmao.

is this supposed to be a brag?

Lmao, ozymandius is perfect metaphor for trooning out. A guy who thinks he's doing the right thing amidst a growing doubt and guilt over the irreversability of what he has done. His last comments, after the ominous dark freighter visions: "Did I do it? Is this the end?" with the possibly more ominous response from dr manhattan who can see the future: "Nothing ever ends, Adrian."

Olly posted on his Tumblr - one of his viewers claiming they only just now realized “Abigail” and Oliver are the same person. We are to believe that this person thought PT simply changed hosts or something. Yeah, okay…

Same thing with some of the zany religious folk who fall down when the mighty priest taps their head and compells their demon of dyslexia to be expunged from their body. They know what people expect from them. They know what kind of thing to say to inspire religious fervor in the people around them. They know what gets them brownie points. Or in this case, upvotes.
 
look at this absolute lolcow in their tunic dress. how he lolls lasciviously in his tasteless and kitschy set, completely convinced of his own genius and sex appael. how he plays with the fact that his testicles are almost visible. who wants to convince me that this is a trans woman and not a crazy narcissus so fascinated by his own image that he has lost touch with reality?
 
Trooning out does not prevent suicide. If Ollie is to die by 30, he will. But of course we know this "reveal" is just another attention-whoring stunt.
a narc will never commit suicide. most AGPs commit because they realise they ruined their life and Body for a cringe fetish. I think, more than an AGP addiction, Olly is addicted to his newfound minority status - he is suddenly not only a woman, but a trans one at that ! There’s nothing a narc loves more than being a victim.

his end game is either his dead body being found in his house by erotic self-asphyxiation gone wrong (common among incel trannies) or he detranses and gets to play more victim by blaming it on terfs and transphobes.
 
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Holy fuck this play is going to blow. Also the unbridled narcissism it takes to read someone pouring their heart out about troon issues and then try to self-promo your upcoming play underneath their exceptional rant.
Either it's gonna be put on youtube or we'll have to get someone's secondhand account of it, I hope the former. I feel like Olly would want as many people to see his masterwork as possible, so hopefully it gets put on youtube somewhere
 
someone send photo of an orange to the shops for a pint of milk, cos we are back on the Geordie train.
What, the FuCK is this.
(posted by Tubes apparent top reddit stan)
How could anyone even pretend to hear Tubes accent as anything other than carefully curated RP?
does this person understand what an accent is?
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(fyi this fucker does actually appear to american themselves despite cringe teaboo terminology posturing)
 
someone send photo of an orange to the shops for a pint of milk, cos we are back on the Geordie train.
What, the FuCK is this.
(posted by Tubes apparent top reddit stan)
How could anyone even pretend to hear Tubes accent as anything other than carefully curated RP?
does this person understand what an accent is?
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(fyi this fucker does actually appear to american themselves despite cringe teaboo terminology posturing)
I don't watch Bake Off, but I'm sure Matt Lucas was being DEAD SERIOUS when he said "ugh I used to be in movies and now I'm doing this".

Do they not have sarcasm in America?
 
I don't watch Bake Off, but I'm sure Matt Lucas was being DEAD SERIOUS when he said "ugh I used to be in movies and now I'm doing this".

Do they not have sarcasm in America?
can you imagine how, firstly unnerving Tube would be on that show, towering and squawking, unable to control the roving camera angles.
And how badly his self serving non sequiters would crash land, whilst he tries to look like he knows about baking?
He seriously cant do self deprecating humour at all, which is most of the gentle attempts at humour on that show anyway.
Also he would be uncomfortable when we are not about me?
The whole post is so weird its like....I think my daddy shud be the prime minister becos he is the best daddy in the world :) <3

Matt lucas is a big fat fuck whose had a very long career and probably doesnt mind chilling aside some cakes one bit.
 
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